bluenoz 30,957 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I wish fans would stop wishing for our players not to play international football. A pro player's ultimate dream is to be a capped player. We should support that. I could get hit by a bus later, but I'm still going outside and chancing it. Souttar & Jack will come to camp next Friday ahead of schedule because of their Scotland involvement, and Souttar, in particular, looked good. 32Blue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Jack and souttar can do what they want but I wish @bluenozwas hit by a bus Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,637 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, bluenoz said: I wish fans would stop wishing for our players not to play international football. A pro player's ultimate dream is to be a capped player. We should support that. I could get hit by a bus later, but I'm still going outside and chancing it. Souttar & Jack will come to camp next Friday ahead of schedule because of their Scotland involvement, and Souttar, in particular, looked good. Well that’s not true. Maybe in some cases but a lot of them will dream of lifting european cups and the likes ahead of that That’s an old time view you’ve expressed there really, because a lot of people can’t even be arsed with international football now TEFTONG and The Dude 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,609 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: Well that’s not true. Maybe in some cases but a lot of them will dream of lifting european cups and the likes ahead of that That’s an old time view you’ve expressed there really, because a lot of people can’t even be arsed with international football now Yeah cant imagine a pro footballer would choose a few caps over say a european trophy Highly doubt any of they west ham players that won the trophy the other week would give a fuck if they ever seen an international game again East London Loyal and OrangeRab 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,957 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 56 minutes ago, TamCoopz said: Jack and souttar can do what they want but I wish @bluenozwas hit by a bus The only time you post is to criticize others. If you don't like something, just move on. People are right when they say the site is dying a slow death. Posters like you are half the reason. BookWorm and Smile 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, bluenoz said: The only time you post is to criticize others. If you don't like something, just move on. People are right when they say the site is dying a slow death. Posters like you are half the reason. Don’t think i criticised you there Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,086 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 8 hours ago, esquire8 said: I do. Fuck international football. Hahahahaha JackAlex93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz85 944 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 5 hours ago, bluenoz said: Big man looked good when he came on last night. A full season of Souttar and we are on to something good. Would love to see it but has he ever completed a full season major injury free 🤔 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,915 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 8 hours ago, The Beast said: How does it possibly benefit us? Cos they’ll want to play well and keep their performances up to be included in the squad at the end of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,915 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 hours ago, .Williamson. said: Well that’s not true. Maybe in some cases but a lot of them will dream of lifting european cups and the likes ahead of that That’s an old time view you’ve expressed there really, because a lot of people can’t even be arsed with international football now The number of players that swap nationality just to get called up for internationals suggests that’s not true. ronniescu, Jamie0202 and HG5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,637 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, ElBufalo20 said: The number of players that swap nationality just to get called up for internationals suggests that’s not true. Ultimate dream is a stretch Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,609 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, ElBufalo20 said: The number of players that swap nationality just to get called up for internationals suggests that’s not true. Is it for international caps or is it to better expose themselves to clubs for a better move and more wages/success The Dude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,919 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Is it for international caps or is it to better expose themselves to clubs for a better move and more wages/success If it contributes towards a successful Rangers then does it matter either way? The Dude and J-Maestro 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 11,372 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, ElBufalo20 said: The number of players that swap nationality just to get called up for internationals suggests that’s not true. If you're needing to swap nationality to get international caps, it would suggest that you're a bit off being good enough for whatever nation you currently represented. Which to me would suggest those players are probably just trying to get more noticed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,609 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: If it contributes towards a successful Rangers then does it matter either way? Im just replying about players choosing to swap nationalities (have we ever had a player who did that actually) Like loyal72 said, not many players swap up the way, its usually down and its for more exposure rather than a few international caps that may mean fuck all in the future anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,915 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Loyal72 said: If you're needing to swap nationality to get international caps, it would suggest that you're a bit off being good enough for whatever nation you currently represented. Which to me would suggest those players are probably just trying to get more noticed. No clearly suggests that if not good enough for one country then they’ll play for another for personal recognition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,637 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 8 hours ago, ElBufalo20 said: Cos they’ll want to play well and keep their performances up to be included in the squad at the end of the season. That’s not always the case, some players will just be selected regardless of current form because their countries don’t have any other decent options. Bruno Alves was a prime example of this during his time with us. Kyle Lafferty for NI was another. As long as both Jack and Souttar are reasonably fit they will constantly be selected for Scotland, because quite simply there are no better options available Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,637 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 hours ago, ElBufalo20 said: No clearly suggests that if not good enough for one country then they’ll play for another for personal recognition. That’s not really a dream of playing for your country then and if a players “ultimate dream” is to just play international football no matter which nation it’s for then they sound pretty shite tbf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 8 hours ago, Loyal72 said: If you're needing to swap nationality to get international caps, it would suggest that you're a bit off being good enough for whatever nation you currently represented. Which to me would suggest those players are probably just trying to get more noticed. True, Jack Grealish would never get in the Ireland side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,298 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 3 hours ago, .Williamson. said: That’s not always the case, some players will just be selected regardless of current form because their countries don’t have any other decent options. Bruno Alves was a prime example of this during his time with us. Kyle Lafferty for NI was another. As long as both Jack and Souttar are reasonably fit they will constantly be selected for Scotland, because quite simply there are no better options available Every player selected for international teams is selected because there are no better options available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,637 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 55 minutes ago, left winger said: Every player selected for international teams is selected because there are no better options available. The players I’ve mentioned were selected because there was no or is no competition for their places, but you already knew what I meant Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,637 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, The Dude said: True, Jack Grealish would never get in the Ireland side. What point are you trying to make there? Grealish gets into the England side Loyal72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,181 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: What point are you trying to make there? Grealish gets into the England side I think he originally started with the Republic and switched to England. The Dude and J-Maestro 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: What point are you trying to make there? Grealish gets into the England side Grealish was Irish until England wanted him. Nothing to do with being ‘a bit off being good enough for whatever nation you currently represent.’ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,298 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: The players I’ve mentioned were selected because there was no or is no competition for their places, but you already knew what I meant Of course, I did. But that principle wouldn’t have stopped you making such a post. Just wanted to join in 😉 .Williamson. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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