Iakona 2,261 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, RFC55 said: Thatās absolute nonsense mateĀ for all the Psv end result we still created a number of chances and didnāt struggle to get out our own half v themĀ I meanā¦ in the home leg we had 30% possession and managed a total of 164 successful passes over 90 minutes. The pressure maps show we spent most of the game playing with and without the ball in our own half. We did not handle their aggressive press or tempo. When the ball left our half it was typically because we either went route 1 on the counter or we were getting rid of a hot potato before they pressed usā¦ hoping Dessers would draw a foul.Ā Matondo played 23 minutes and had almost half our chancesā¦Ā Our only really period of extended pressure in their half came when they didnāt have a single CB on the pitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,269 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Iakona said: I meanā¦ in the home leg we had 30% possession and managed a total of 164 successful passes over 90 minutes. The pressure maps show we spent most of the game playing with and without the ball in our own half.Ā When the ball left our half it was because we either went route 1 on the counter or we were getting rid of a hot potato before they pressed us.Ā Matondo played 23 minutes and had almost half our chancesā¦Ā Our only really period of extended pressure in their half came when they didnāt have a single CB on the pitch. You said we wonāt get out our half. Itās absolute fucking nonsense to suggest that: I was at the game at home and watched the away leg, we created chances and scored goals, my eyes tell me that. the score line in both games and the fact we scored showed we got out our half. Ā it was a stupid post to make and I donāt know what point youāre trying to make with it. Ā Ā Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iakona 2,261 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, RFC55 said: You said we wonāt get out our half. Itās absolute fucking nonsense to suggest that: I was at the game at home and watched the away leg, we created chances and scored goals, my eyes tell me that. the score line in both games and the fact we scored showed we got out our half. Ā it was a stupid post to make and I donāt know what point youāre trying to make with it. Ā Ā Ā Okay let me simplify it for you then āif they turn up, and our midfield donāt raise their recent performance levels. - we will very likely struggle to get the ball out of our halfā because thatās thatās what I was implying.. Iām not saying we wonāt be able to counter them. if you canāt read between the lines then my apologies. Ultimately I donāt care what your eyes tell you. People quite often claim to see shit with their eyes that didnāt actually happen. The stats show we spent most of the game under pressure in our own half. As I said in my original post there will be opportunities to get in behindā¦ but we need to be far more clinical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,269 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Iakona said: Okay let me simplify it for you then āif they turn up, and our midfield donāt raise their recent performance levels. - we will very likely struggle to get the ball out of our halfā because thatās thatās what I was implying.. if you canāt read between the lines then my apologies. Ultimately I donāt care what your eyes tell you. People quite often claim to see shit with their eyes that didnāt actually happen. The stats show we spent mort of the game in our own half. We had iirc 14 shots over there. Unless we were shooting from our own half then we defo got out our halfĀ you claimed we wonāt get out our half you made a cunt of it just accept itĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybluesy 3,734 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Personally not feeling optimistic about this.Ā Midfield is chronic, Sima couldn't trap a bag of cement, his shooting is fucking awful and Lammers is dreadful.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlythestrongsurvive 1,007 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Not hopeful of a win, but if they turn us over badly then feel Beale will be gone. Negri's lovechild 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausagetrunks 6,039 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 we need to win, we need to win our home games, if Beale hasn't learned from the PSV and celtic game then there isnt much hope. No point surrendering the ball to them, have a go and play the players in their strongest positions and have a go.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,181 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, onlythestrongsurvive said: Not hopeful of a win, but if they turn us over badly then feel Beale will be gone. I think that's the thing. A big defeat in the same vein as the PSV game would see the end of him, especially at home.Ā A draw or narrow defeat would be ok in terms of his survival. Obviously want the win. onlythestrongsurvive 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I watched the whole of their game against Barcelona and I think they will come to Ibrox for the win. We need to have our tactics spot on and perform the whole 90 minutes, if we don't have that then they will hurt us. I don't have much confidence about our tactical prowess or our ability to maintain a high level of performance over 90 minutes. The outcome of the game comes down to Rangers turning up as I think Betis will, and we need to be ready for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iakona 2,261 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, RFC55 said: We had iirc 14 shots over there. Unless we were shooting from our own half then we defo got out our halfĀ you claimed we wonāt get out our half you made a cunt of it just accept itĀ It was hyperbole. I didnāt think anyone would take it literally to the point where they believe Iām claiming we would spend 100% of the game in our own halfā¦. Just most of it. My original post was also quite clear that there will be opportunities to get at their defence and cause them problems just like PSV. If we need to be far more clinical with our use of the ball, let alone finishing. if our midfield doesnāt turn up again.. we will possibly have repeat of PSV. Hopefully all this is for nothing and we scud them. Then after the game Iād happily tell you I was wrong and buy you a pint to celebrate.Ā Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aird 3,788 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Betis having a goalkeeper crisis. First choice keeper likely out injured and second choice just back training from an injury.Ā 3rd choice keeper is the Betis B keeper, who plays in the 4th tier of Spanish football.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PromDeAnglais 5,553 Posted September 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, aird said: Betis having a goalkeeper crisis. First choice keeper likely out injured and second choice just back training from an injury.Ā 3rd choice keeper is the Betis B keeper, who plays in the 4th tier of Spanish football.Ā We've got a full team crisis in that they're absolutely shite. The No.9, bornabear, BridgeIsBlue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybluesy 3,734 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Jack and Lundstram will be in midfield.Ā How do we like them apples.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,158 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Can't see a win for us in this one unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 11,402 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Not feeling good about this, will probably change in a couple days, but right now can't see it far enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Negri's lovechild said: I think that's the thing. A big defeat in the same vein as the PSV game would see the end of him, especially at home.Ā A draw or narrow defeat would be ok in terms of his survival. Obviously want the win. No it wouldnt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Boybluesy said: Jack and Lundstram will be in midfield.Ā How do we like them apples.Ā Lundstram, for all his criticism, deserves to play. Iakona 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,181 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, WWTC said: No it wouldnt. Im pretty sure losing 5 goals would end him. onlythestrongsurvive 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybluesy 3,734 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, WWTC said: Lundstram, for all his criticism, deserves to play. I think they will both play.Ā The point is our midfield, and now especially withoutĀ Cantwell, lacks creativity and is slow as fuck.Ā Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,292 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, Boybluesy said: Jack and Lundstram will be in midfield.Ā How do we like them apples.Ā He deserves to be tbh.for games likes this heās the best of a bad bunch imoĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,162 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā ButlandĀ Ā Ā Souttar Goldson DaviesĀ Tav Lundstram Raskin BarisicĀ Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā LawrenceĀ Ā Ā Ā Ā Roofe Ā Ā Ā MatondoĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iakona 2,261 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, gazza27 said: He deserves to be tbh.for games likes this heās the best of a bad bunch imoĀ Perhaps a sad state of affairs and doesnāt actually say much. But heās arguably been our ābestā midfielder this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,673 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said: Im pretty sure losing 5 goals would end him. Yeah, I think the majority of Ibrox is itching to give Beale dogs abuse.Ā Negri's lovechild 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,281 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Quite confident weāll get a result. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,162 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Big Al 55 said: Quite confident weāll get a result. Based on what? we havenāt played a good 90 minutes in total this seasonĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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