King Jela 21,811 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 The conversion rate from set peices isn't the issue, the issue is, more times than not, we give the players in the box ready to attack no opportunity to do so. Our delivery is disgustingly bad, and, aye, it's Tav with most of them. cogsy69uk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,688 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 In terms of an OF game that meant something regarding going for a title or a cup, tav has won 1 out of the last 15 he has played in or close to that (the ET cup win at hampden) Thats an absolutely horrendous record for a Rangers captain, absolutely horrendous bornabear, SteveEarle and Sunglasses Ron 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,595 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Scoring from set pieces is low, my frustration is that we try about 3 or 4 and they dont work, so then try another 20 Mind morelos goal at home to red star on way to seville, wee change in our set piece tactic and it worked, might never work again but we tried something different Warburton used to get slaughtered for short corners, id fucking love us to go back to them for a while to try something different I noticed County done a short corner that involved a lay off. Good pace on they deliveries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,688 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Seen this on twitter, absolutely appalling record, not all on him but he's been there and major part of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionblue 4,221 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 That was written by one of THEM, you can be sure of that, the obsession level is there. OrangeRab, MacBoyd and Drunk and disorderly. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,109 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 It’s not the defeats/draws against them that are the biggest problem, it’s number of goals he plays a part in us conceding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealWorldRich 869 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 8 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Seen this on twitter, absolutely appalling record, not all on him but he's been there and major part of it I'm far from Tavs biggest fan and would alway prioritise defensive ability over anything else in his position... BUT, that stat list is pretty unfair and needs a bit if context and perspective. Tav joined us we weren't even in the top division. He's been here through Pedro Caixinha and Graeme Murty while they were stock piling cash for our return. It's been an uphill battle for him due to the extraordinary circumstances. SPWF, Drunk and disorderly., OrangeRab and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 15,712 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 19 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Seen this on twitter, absolutely appalling record, not all on him but he's been there and major part of it If the 18 mistakes leading to goals is accurate, that’s an horrendous statistic, but if true, there will also be input in that from other players. But everything else is a team stat - not solely a Tav stat. It would possibly be fairer to criticise every other regular first teamer over the last few years for not being able to dislodge him from his role. And his managers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 45,486 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 21 minutes ago, Unionblue said: That was written by one of THEM, you can be sure of that, the obsession level is there. Unwashed or not, it's all true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 21,811 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 12 minutes ago, RealWorldRich said: I'm far from Tavs biggest fan and would alway prioritise defensive ability over anything else in his position... BUT, that stat list is pretty unfair and needs a bit if context and perspective. Tav joined us we weren't even in the top division. He's been here through Pedro Caixinha and Graeme Murty while they were stock piling cash for our return. It's been an uphill battle for him due to the extraordinary circumstances. Away ye go with that pish. For context, if he'd arrived in 2018 with Gerrard he'd have still cost us more goals against celtic than anyone else. bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,688 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 23 minutes ago, RealWorldRich said: I'm far from Tavs biggest fan and would alway prioritise defensive ability over anything else in his position... BUT, that stat list is pretty unfair and needs a bit if context and perspective. Tav joined us we weren't even in the top division. He's been here through Pedro Caixinha and Graeme Murty while they were stock piling cash for our return. It's been an uphill battle for him due to the extraordinary circumstances. Its still going to be his record, and since gerrard arrived if ive counted correctly tav has played in 24 OF games and won 7, an absolutely abysmal record still Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 32,729 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 You don't have to be the best player to be captain. But captains like Steve Bruce, Tony Adams or Jordan Henderson were true leaders who brought success to their teams. Our very own Richard Gough and Terry Butcher were leaders by example. Tav's way of leading is running half way down the park to take a throw-in. We need a change. five stars and cascadeshrimp 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarzM 1,371 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I've said it before...and i'll continue to say it. Can anyone honestly remember when he last stopped a cross at source? He dangles a leg at it...but he never actually stops them. It's as rare a Goldson taking the ball to the face. It just doesn't happen! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Birkin 10,040 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 i said at the start of the season that this should be his last we need whole clean out and a team with a winning and no fucks given mentality he does not have that and with all these lessons he's took on board after every defeat and he's learned nothing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 14,131 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 It should be his last season as Rangers captain, at the very least. I'd say it should be his last at the club, believe he's contracted until 2027 though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 15,100 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Seen this on twitter, absolutely appalling record, not all on him but he's been there and major part of it Literally written in their colours. Even finishes it off with some Chris Sutton patter. Wonder how the author would describe you... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,688 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: Literally written in their colours. Even finishes it off with some Chris Sutton patter. Wonder how the author would describe you... Its a whatsapp message you clown, check the double blue ticks 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 15,100 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Just now, Jimfanciesthedude said: Its a whatsapp message you clown, check the double blue ticks 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 lol. Fair enough. Did you write it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,688 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: lol. Fair enough. Did you write it? Nope, id have swore a lot more about the loser Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 21,811 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Loyal72 said: It should be his last season as Rangers captain, at the very least. I'd say it should be his last at the club, believe he's contracted until 2027 though. 27? Tell me that's a typo ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 27,092 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 hours ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Seen this on twitter, absolutely appalling record, not all on him but he's been there and major part of it You want your arse to be in the Hall of Fame? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,688 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 35 minutes ago, Bronzy said: You want your arse to be in the Hall of Fame? Let me get it waxed first duce bigalo style Davy Vandenbroucke 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,941 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 hours ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Seen this on twitter, absolutely appalling record, not all on him but he's been there and major part of it 31 points from a possible 109 against celtic AND 68 points lost in old firm games? Something doesn’t add up. 109-31 is 78. Makes you wonder if some of the other stuff listed is a lot of shite too.. Drunk and disorderly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helicopter Sundae 6,487 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 .The truth is that Tav has made up for the lack of a midfielder or striker who is the free kick/penalty taker. In having that weakness up front, he has taken up positions that have at the same time left us vulnerable at the back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose48 987 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Our ability to defend against any team that is willing to attack with pace i.e. celtic and now Ross County is terrible. Not just Tav, Goldson and Barasic are hopeless against anyone running at them plus Lunny had a bad game compared to his last few as did Lawrence. A bad result but not the end of the World yet, the whole team need to take responsibility for that display. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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