graeme_4’s official Clement discussion thread

[Malkytfp1 19,730]

8 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

And they scored fuck all today, and never really looked like it.

 

Just pretend their sitter header never happened or Propper blocking the ball in front of Butland or the penalty save or the save from Kwon that was netbound.

[Malkytfp1 19,730]

[docspiderman 1,315]

We are unable to kill teams off, it looks like fear takes over as soon as we go one up and the “ keep possession at all costs” sets in. The trouble is that these players do not have the intelligence or ability to do that.

Keeping possession is all about angles and movement and should be as far away from our goal. Passing backwards and hemming our team mates in just invites the opposition and the inevitable pass backwards to the keeper is an easy way to lose possession.

Scoring goals kills off the opposition but we are the kings of stopping and turning back and probably the team with the highest percentage of back passes from attacking positions.

[hawkfalcons 2,406]

6 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said:

I'm not suprised at 580 passes seeing as all we seemed to do was pass forward, pass back, pass sideways etc etc 

[RockwellGers 15,382]

[jamess 3,544]

1 hour ago, Malkytfp1 said:

Whit?!

Got sideways swiped from the match thread and didn't realise..doooh.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 55,504]

39 minutes ago, the goal machine said:

We should be dominating teams like that at home, a pretty rotten Hibs team.

Same amount of shots and they had spells when they were dominating. Not good enough.

The scum have contempt for the ability of every scottish club including us. We adapt to counter other teams including bottom 6 teams at home.

The scum CHs are 20 yards further forward than ours, they smother teams. We play the ball between our CHs in our half then often punt it.

Their one holding midfielder is often around the opponent box. He gets goals and assists. They play 2 attack minded midfielders and 3 forwards. They're aggressive in their attacking style. We have 2 holding midfielders in every single game, and no matter who plays they don't really help with goals and assists. We've an attacking player less than the scum as a result. Bar rare instances like Thursday our play can be slow, predictable, we grind out performances and to an extent wins 

Clement needs to treat teams with less respect, get more aggressive in attacking them, allow them no mercy. And he needs to lewrn how to win versus the scum starting in Jan, I don't care how. If he can't do both, we'll do nothing under him, and he'll get binned later rather than sooner.

[NeoGeo7 11,346]

4 minutes ago, hawkfalcons said:

I'm not suprised at 580 passes seeing as all we seemed to do was pass forward, pass back, pass sideways etc etc 

Remember when Clement came in and he said:

“It’s not risk to do stupid things. It’s not to dribble in our own box or give sh*t lateral passes in our own half. It’s not about that."

We are seeing shit lateral passes in our own half, its exactly what we are seeing and its exactly what we saw from previous managers as well.

[ForeverAndEver 74,057]

14 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said:

Butland tipping 1 round the post first half ? Them putting a header wide

The header yes.

11 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said:

Just pretend their sitter header never happened or Propper blocking the ball in front of Butland or the penalty save or the save from Kwon that was netbound.

Don’t remember the block, why are you not including only open play now? A comfortable save from a shot from 25 yards. 
 

If we’re including them then Igamane should do better with his chance at the edge of the box, Cerny with his from McCausland’s cut back, and McCausland’s header.

[Malkytfp1 19,730]

20 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

The header yes.

Don’t remember the block, why are you not including only open play now? A comfortable save from a shot from 25 yards. 
 

If we’re including them then Igamane should do better with his chance at the edge of the box, Cerny with his from McCausland’s cut back, and McCausland’s header.

😂 I've no problem including open play. In fact I don't remember us creating anything from set pieces or anything. Look at the stats. They don't lie. 18 shots each with 4 and 3 on target retrospectively. In Clement we trust eh. 

[Jamie0202 13,198]

22 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said:

Remember when Clement came in and he said:

“It’s not risk to do stupid things. It’s not to dribble in our own box or give sh*t lateral passes in our own half. It’s not about that."

We are seeing shit lateral passes in our own half, its exactly what we are seeing and its exactly what we saw from previous managers as well.

It's not through instruction. On commentary today they said during the first half that Clement wasn't happy when Raskin took the ball in and turned back in a situation that if he had turned forward and played a pass we had already "broken the lines".

[Malkytfp1 19,730]

23 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

The header yes.

Don’t remember the block, why are you not including only open play now? A comfortable save from a shot from 25 yards. 
 

If we’re including them then Igamane should do better with his chance at the edge of the box, Cerny with his from McCausland’s cut back, and McCausland’s header.

Propper celebrated the block. And it was hardly a comfortable save FS. Balls bottom corner bound and McCann says in commentary how good a touch it was 

[ForeverAndEver 74,057]

1 minute ago, Malkytfp1 said:

Propper celebrated the block. And it was hardly a comfortable save FS. Balls bottom corner bound and McCann says in commentary how good a touch it was 

I still have no recollection in all honesty. If he doesn’t save it, it’s awful goalkeeping. 

[Roy Hobbs 2,999]

For what it's worth open play xG was 1.27 Vs 0.39 in our favour.

Both teams were dreadful and it's easy to see why Hibs are where they are.

[Rangers_no1 34,786]

1 hour ago, ForeverAndEver said:

It was pish.

People will use Hibs’ chances to say we were lucky and not our chances to say they were lucky. 

Key difference is they missed a penalty.

[Jamie0202 13,198]

40 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said:

Propper celebrated the block. And it was hardly a comfortable save FS. Balls bottom corner bound and McCann says in commentary how good a touch it was 

It was a fucking tremendous save.

[Jamie0202 13,198]

4 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Key difference is they missed a penalty.

Had they scored that penalty the second half would have played out completely differently. It's a bit of a cliche to say that goals change games but its entirely true. We may still have went on to pick up the three points with a couple more goals or we may not have.

It was the same on Thursday against Malmo. Same half time score line and same 2nd half reaction from the team a goal down.

[.Williamson. 87,694]

Wins a win and that’s basically as good as it gets just now 

[johanhentze 14,792]

We absolæutely dominated this game. Id recommend that people watch games back. Seriously dfferent vibe when you know you win ;) 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 69,718]

Absolutely rotten game/performance today.

4 wins with clean sheets on the bounce though.

[Leftpegcoopz11 5,198]

1 minute ago, johanhentze said:

We absolæutely dominated this game. Id recommend that people watch games back. Seriously dfferent vibe when you know you win ;) 

Fuck watching that back. Don't want to be asleep this early in the day 

[Redmond7 1,604]

3 hours ago, RockwellGers said:

Yeah I'd hate him to get fleas or a tapeworm and pass it on to the players.

 

I meant to get him put down 

[KBOO72 4,802]

2 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

The scum have contempt for the ability of every scottish club including us. We adapt to counter other teams including bottom 6 teams at home.

The scum CHs are 20 yards further forward than ours, they smother teams. We play the ball between our CHs in our half then often punt it.

Their one holding midfielder is often around the opponent box. He gets goals and assists. They play 2 attack minded midfielders and 3 forwards. They're aggressive in their attacking style. We have 2 holding midfielders in every single game, and no matter who plays they don't really help with goals and assists. We've an attacking player less than the scum as a result. Bar rare instances like Thursday our play can be slow, predictable, we grind out performances and to an extent wins 

Clement needs to treat teams with less respect, get more aggressive in attacking them, allow them no mercy. And he needs to lewrn how to win versus the scum starting in Jan, I don't care how. If he can't do both, we'll do nothing under him, and he'll get binned later rather than sooner.

He's got potentially 2 old firms, if we meet in the cup final and Ibrox at new year to get a result against them imo. 

Don't care what results he's getting elsewhere, if he can't beat the filth in what would be 7 attempts I think, he's no use to us. 

[Jimfanciesthedude 25,663]

1 hour ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Key difference is they missed a penalty.

Fucking dessers heeder was worse than the penalty miss 

[bluenoz 32,666]

6 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said:

Fucking dessers heeder was worse than the penalty miss 

No credit given to a good reflex save?