Rigamonti 59 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 4 hours ago, Loyal72 said: Are you having a laugh? Helander was solid and if fit, more secure than Goldson. 2020/21 we conceded like two goals (the whole season) when Helander was in the team. Goldson played in just about every one of those games too, as well as about another 25. He was the constant. Helander and Balogun split the other central defensive place between them. i don't think Helander's lack of pace was a big problem as some do, but to me he wasn't physical enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,560 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 15 minutes ago, Rigamonti said: Goldson played in just about every one of those games too, as well as about another 25. He was the constant. Helander and Balogun split the other central defensive place between them. i don't think Helander's lack of pace was a big problem as some do, but to me he wasn't physical enough. Goldson conceded more. Helander was the constant. Goldson's stats below. The difference isn't much btw - Goldson only conceded 0.73 per ninety in fairness, whereas Helander was 0.24. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigamonti 59 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 6 hours ago, Loyal72 said: Goldson conceded more. Helander was the constant. Goldson's stats below. The difference isn't much btw - Goldson only conceded 0.73 per ninety in fairness, whereas Helander was 0.24. I meant Goldson was the constant in that he played every week. Helander only managed just over one appearance every two games. What we would do for those figures this season though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,477 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Goldson and helander were brilliant that season. Goldson was a tremendous signing over the years. Key part of us getting back to something of the essence of our past. Was time for him to move on though, or at least one of goldson or tav to move to freshen things up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,303 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 16 hours ago, ciggy said: Butland Tav Proper Balogun Yilmaz Diomande Sterling Barron Cerny Dessers Cortez Prefer this shape and line up, looks more solid. Albertz85, trueblue 64 and graeme_4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
molesmole 1,366 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nk89 1,436 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Haven't seen any flashes of the Cortes we seen before the injury, obviously needs time but a bit worrying BlueAvenger and WWTC 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,421 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Lawrence or Tav the only dilemma for me teamwise. Either Sterling at right back and Lawrence as a 10 or Tav at right back and Sterling making it a midfield 3. Both options make me sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokachi 3,413 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 6 minutes ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: Lawrence or Tav the only dilemma for me teamwise. Either Sterling at right back and Lawrence as a 10 or Tav at right back and Sterling making it a midfield 3. Both options make me sad. Think he’ll go with Lawrence due to him looking like the only non striker capable of hitting the net. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 8,921 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 First Tav ‘disappointed’ interview of the season incoming BlueAvenger, GA1972 and SeparateEntityMyArse 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor_Chang 1,191 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I'm absolutely dreading this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB72 1,561 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Am I really going to watch another season of Dessers BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,121 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 12,202 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Butland Sterling Propper Souttar Ridvan Diomande Barron Cerny Lawrence Cortes Danilo I would play that, but think Tav and Dessers will play, maybe McCausland/Matondo/Wright for Cortes and also not sure Propper will start Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,748 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I suspect Dessers and Lawrence will start…I’m deflated already !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart1994 4,532 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Any idea if Sterling's fit for this ? Suppose we'll find out tomorrow if Clement does a presser. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 37,434 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 41 minutes ago, theiconicman said: Is Fraser meant to be Sterling? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 32,372 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I think we will win, but if we were to lose, Tav plays and post-interview he says we will learn from this, then I'm running for the hills! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,121 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 21 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Is Fraser meant to be Sterling? Thought he was injured? Or was he just pish and hooked and not seen again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 8,158 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 9 hours ago, Nk89 said: Haven't seen any flashes of the Cortes we seen before the injury, obviously needs time but a bit worrying That’s cos the season hasn’t started yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 31,910 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Would be good to make a signing and get him straight into the starting line up like the good old days, none of this he needs time to settle/get fit pish we’ve been feed for years. WWTC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,410 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I hope Propper gets made Captain. Tav does not deserve that armband Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,460 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 hours ago, theiconicman said: I don’t think we’ll get away with that team Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayro 3,493 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 hours ago, bluenoz said: I think we will win, but if we were to lose, Tav plays and post-interview he says we will learn from this, then I'm running for the hills! Alternative option, what you doing if Tav plays and smashes a free kick from 25 yards to grab the winner? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 32,372 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, ayro said: Alternative option, what you doing if Tav plays and smashes a free kick from 25 yards to grab the winner? I will cheer. Hadron Collider 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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