plymouthranger 4,226 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Whilst there’s failure at almost every level of the club currently (board, manager, players), I think a massive part of our failure is down to not replacing Steven Davis. Modern day football requires a playmaker who can control the tempo of a game as well as stop the other team playing it their way. Steven Davis was an absolute master of this, yet since the Europa League run we’ve not had him or tried to replace him. Was listening to Heart and Hands show about the Champions League (the main event, a good listen), this week focusing on the 2002/03 season where Pirlo came to the fore as a deep lying playmaker. Couldn’t help but think who in our current squad can do that or was signed to do so. Barrons young and showing promising signs but isn’t that player yet, Diomande is too erratic, Sterling etc don’t have the technical ability. It’s no coincidence that since Davis was injured and subsequently retired, our OF record has taken a complete nosedive. We were linked with a midfielder from Sevilla, but seemingly have given up finding someone and are paying the price. Is this too simplistic a conclusion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueSuedeSambas 56,371 Posted September 3 Popular Post Share Posted September 3 Everybody has known we need a number six for about two years now but for whatever reason we have decided to not address it. Replacing a player of the quality of Davis isn’t an easy thing to, but we haven’t even tried to, at least not properly anyway. Amokachi, RFCHTID, FermanaghBear and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,595 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 You think all of our problems, would've been solved by replacing Steven Davis? I wish I was that optimistic tbh. Core needs replacing, not just a number 6. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nameless Ghoul 6,155 Posted September 3 Popular Post Share Posted September 3 Got my hopes up hoping he had signed SK Rfc, bam74, Loyal72 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,371 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 minute ago, Loyal72 said: You think all of our problems, would've been solved by replacing Steven Davis? I wish I was that optimistic tbh. Core needs replacing, not just a number 6. We need a lot of players but a good number six changes the entire dynamic of this side. BlueKnight87, graeme_4, J-Maestro and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,595 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 3 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: We need a lot of players but a good number six changes the entire dynamic of this side. I'd kill for a good number six. But I'd also kill for two decent CBs, two decent fullbacks, a striker and a winger. We could have Steven Davis right now, first time round version if you want, but the rest of the team is so ill-equipped that even he wouldn't make much of a difference to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 13,897 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 6 minutes ago, Loyal72 said: You think all of our problems, would've been solved by replacing Steven Davis? I wish I was that optimistic tbh. Core needs replacing, not just a number 6. It stabilises the middle of the park which is probably the most important part of the team, it should be supporting attack and protecting the defence. Ours does neither just now. GazTops, plymouthranger and HG5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluenoz 32,400 Posted September 3 Popular Post Share Posted September 3 OP is right about Davis, but give me a Barry Ferguson-type any day of the week, especially against them. GazTops, Garnock Blue, BlueKnight87 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,572 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I don't think we'd be able to afford a player like Steven Davis now, the only way we managed to get Davis is because he's a bluenose and probably felt like he had a bit of unfinished business with us after the way he had do leave in 2012. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,711 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I always thought Raskin was meant for this role although his form has crashed so dramatically that it's clear he does not have the talent to fulfil this role or indeed have the talent for a huge money move to Chelsea like he previously mooted. Davis was a Rolls-Royce of a player in that position when he was firing on all cylinders and my favourite Rangers player of the last good few years. It would be wonderful to have a number 6 with that ability once again orchestrating our midfield. As good as Barron is, I don't think he has the vision or raw talent to reach that leading level of a Davis or McCall. plymouthranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,623 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I actually don't think it's a huge problem. If anything I think our problem partially comes from having too many of that type of midfielder. We seem to only be flooded by number 6 holding types. Were missing more of an Aribo/Arfield type who breaks the lines and supports the attack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stunels 1,370 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Genuinely despair that anyone could think our problems could be solved by steve davis Iron Proddy and Bawheed 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stunels 1,370 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Only way to solve anything at the club is a change of top-level management. Get that right and you can start to sign the right men to fix whats going on at the pitch. Nothing changes until the board changes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 12,210 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 18 minutes ago, BookWorm said: I always thought Raskin was meant for this role although his form has crashed so dramatically that it's clear he does not have the talent to fulfil this role or indeed have the talent for a huge money move to Chelsea like he previously mooted. Davis was a Rolls-Royce of a player in that position when he was firing on all cylinders and my favourite Rangers player of the last good few years. It would be wonderful to have a number 6 with that ability once again orchestrating our midfield. As good as Barron is, I don't think he has the vision or raw talent to reach that leading level of a Davis or McCall. Didn’t know Kevin Thomson posts on the forum EastEnclosureBear, Ambrogio, Loyal72 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,916 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, Malkytfp1 said: I actually don't think it's a huge problem. If anything I think our problem partially comes from having too many of that type of midfielder. We seem to only be flooded by number 6 holding types. Were missing more of an Aribo/Arfield type who breaks the lines and supports the attack. The longer he’s been away the better a player he’s seems to have become. graeme_4, HG5 and TheKingObv 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 7,107 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Incredible player when you look back. His presence on and off the pitch was clear. Not one with obvious game-changing style on the eye, but one you even further appreciate when you realise what we lack without him. plymouthranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 13,897 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 4 minutes ago, SPWF said: The longer he’s an away the better a player he’s seems to have become. His ability to do wee mazy runs and control a ball over the top was outstanding to be fair. Was absolutely invisible other times though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somemightsay7 3,095 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 There's a lot of issues in our team, but our complete lack of ability to control games is a consistent over the last couple years which a good ballplaying 6 in the middle of the pitch would help with a lot. Most of our midfielders just seem to panic under pressure and take the easy pass back or lose the ball. I was really hoping Raskin would be that player when he came in but that obviously hasn't worked. plymouthranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,916 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 15 minutes ago, J-Maestro said: His ability to do wee mazy runs and control a ball over the top was outstanding to be fair. Was absolutely invisible other times though. Just another in a long line of largely pointless “good footballers” we’ve had over the years. Numbers were almost non existent and never turned up in big games. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 21,591 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Wouldn't have conceded those first 2 goals had a prime Davis been in that 6 position. Would've spotted bug eyes run and cut out the ball to Maeda. He would've been all over Furuhashi to stop him from getting that shot away when he was in acres of space. Why we don't have someone in that 6 position for these games is mind blowing to me. graeme_4 and plymouthranger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 8,923 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, Loyal72 said: You think all of our problems, would've been solved by replacing Steven Davis? I wish I was that optimistic tbh. Core needs replacing, not just a number 6. Need another complete overhaul but 1 player of his quality would make a difference - we have zero quality at the moment Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,623 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, SPWF said: The longer he’s been away the better a player he’s seems to have become. Would walk into probably every midfield we've had since he left. It's more about that type of player than that specific player. Someone whocould beat a man and could break the lines and actually attack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,489 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Replacing Davis is the issue. In his prime first time he was here he’d be out of our price range I reckon. Second time he steadied the ship but we only really got a solid 18 months of good form from him. As some alluded already to we desperately need a better structure off the park before we see improvements on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,571 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 6 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: Would walk into probably every midfield we've had since he left. It's more about that type of player than that specific player. Someone whocould beat a man and could break the lines and actually attack. And we would moan about him hiding every big game docspiderman, SPWF and Bawheed 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 13,897 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 4 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: And we would moan about him hiding every big game He turned up in plenty of big games, he would have walked in to this time he just wouldn't have made a difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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