Inigo 32,534 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Even if DK and the rest put in 50 million over 4 years (or whatever he said), how do you compete with that? If they qualify in the next couple of seasons, we've got problems. Real problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 6 hours ago, NixonRFC said: nah call me what you want but fuck that, swapping scarfs? no harm to the wee guy at all but fuck fucking that! Aye swapping scarfs or buying a half n half scarf Tae fuck wi that shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,280 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 It will be hard for us to catch up on them given the financial advantage they will get if they manage to regularly get into the CL. However, the one thing in our favour is that there is a glass ceiling they will batter their heads against, the same glass ceiling we struggled with during the 1990s (only worse because Scotland is now even more of a backwater than it was back then). Unless they can negotiate a route out of the SPFL (highly unlikely), they will continually be limited by that ceiling. As looks likely, they are going to win the league this year by a wide margin, they may even win the cups. If they do, what's in it for Rodgers, Dembele, Sinclair to remain with them. Rodgers in particular is up here to raise his stock so he can get a reasonable job down south or in a big league. My guess is he will jump ship as soon as any suitable offer is made to him. The Champions League is a bit of a red herring, the best they are ever going to do is make up the numbers in the initial group stages like they did this year. Yes, they still make big money compared to us, but gIven that there is always possibility of getting tonked out in the preliminary stages, that not going to be an attractive option to managers/players trying to build up their reputation to get a move to bigger /better leagues. As i said at the start, overcoming the financial advantage they have will not be easy and we may have a long wait to get back to the top. However, they are going to have to continually recycle their management and players every 1-2 seasons, we can only hope that they get one of these rebuilds completely wrong (similar to what we did in 97/98) and we can step in to take advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,190 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Inigo said: Even if DK and the rest put in 50 million over 4 years (or whatever he said), how do you compete with that? If they qualify in the next couple of seasons, we've got problems. Real problems. Guaranteed CL next year, so unless they don't make the league stages we will be fucked, someone has to bite the bullet and invest, they have to be stopped next season otherwise we and the Scottish game is fucked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muldoon1690 151 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Inigo said: Sellic made 20.2 million euros in 2012/13 from prize, participation and TV money alone (not including their cash for qualifying for the last 16). That's confirmed on the UCL website. It's gone up significantly recently, so 25 million Euros before ticket revenue sounds about right. Like it or not, sellic will make £30 odd million from UCL this year. It's fucking scary how much of an advantage it gives the participants. It's designed to develop a self-perpetuating limited elite. Well that's fuckin depressing!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighouse 1,012 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 11 hours ago, Danny Morrison said: Very doubtful. As someone who grew up in Northern Ireland during the worst of the Troubles, I lost count of the various left-wing organizations and people who would spout ignorant support for the IRA. Just look at what has been elected leader of the Labour party. And he isn't a one off. And didn't Stalin kill more people than Hitler? I'm amazed that 'left-wing' is seen as some kind of synonym for 'good'. From what I can see it's very much a synonym for evil. Was it not yourself Danny who coined the phrase armalite and ballot box? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Inigo said: In Euros... 12.7 million for group stage participation, 1.5 million for the three draws, 11 million in market pool. That's 25 million. Add on 7.5 million in ticket sales and you're looking at them making in the order of 32 or 33 million Euros minimum. What's that, about £28 million minimum or so? yes thats around it. I seen it broken down and the BT money now plays a huge part... CELTIC will be handed a minimum of £26million for making the Champions League group stage. UEFA announced the figure, which is higher than expected because of the market pool payment has been confirmed as nearly £900m from exclusive UK TV providers BT Sport. The market pool is cash that is distributed based on the value of a country’s TV market. But Celtic will receive less than an English club at the same stage because the Hoops have been lumped in with the UK as there is no Scottish TV deal with European football’s governing body. The figure of £26m is the least the Glasgow club will earn because it doesn’t include gate receipts, matchday revenue or lucrative hospitality packages. Neither does it count prize money for winning points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,708 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 £3M for a 19 year old Cunts will probably end up selling him for £15M in a season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluedoo 2,652 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Not much laughing going on in here, could change the thread title to the lets big up the tims Remember when big Eck destroyed the over exaggerated M O N by winning 5 out of 6 trophies in his first 2 seasons, considering the finances they had at the time, what a glorious feat that was. Who will ever forget his Rangers team clawing back that lot on Helecopter Sunday after leading us by 5 points with 4 games to go. Also a would rather live with our history, than theirs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 You almost envy them and the money their club has compared to us just now But them you remember they look like this and thank the lord you're a handsome proddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 15 hours ago, Inigo said: In Euros... 12.7 million for group stage participation, 1.5 million for the three draws, 11 million in market pool. That's 25 million. Add on 7.5 million in ticket sales and you're looking at them making in the order of 32 or 33 million Euros minimum. What's that, about £28 million minimum or so? Your figures will be close what's never put out there is the deductions that will come with that bonus payments for 1 fritzel and lieswell will be well into a 7 figure sum between them just for qualification ,players bonus too won't be much less ,then there are the costs involved too ,extra match day costs ,travel and accommodation costs for away games then vat on ticket sales too they will still walk away with 15m plus ,but the fact that they tried to sell one of their defenders on deadline day for 3m rather than splash the cash indicates that the coffers aren't overflowing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfc_watp 1,503 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 That light show but They are cringey, cringey bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,789 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Could've played for your boyhood heroes but nope, chased the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,989 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I see the papers are starting already on the 50th anniversary pish about that day they got lucky in Lisbon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,037 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 hour ago, RFCRobertson said: Could've played for your boyhood heroes but nope, chased the money. Back to hivs for the wean touching prick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready1873 3,887 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 6 hours ago, rfc_watp said: That light show but They are cringey, cringey bastards. Very cringy. I couldn't believe the devotion to it. I almost bent over backwards eith cringe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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William McBeath 2,154 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 2 hours ago, RFCRobertson said: Could've played for your boyhood heroes but nope, chased the money. He'll end up an alky as the years go by and the reality of what he done sinks in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
William McBeath 2,154 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 hour ago, ready1873 said: Very cringy. I couldn't believe the devotion to it. I almost bent over backwards eith cringe. Having a season ticket over there must feel like being a One Direction fanatic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Inigo 32,534 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Looks like West Ham have bid £20 million for Dembele. 'To that end, a bid of £20m – a figure close to the Club’s all-time transfer record – was submitted for a player from Scotland.' https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/january/05-january/insider £19.5 million profit in 7 months. That's fucking dispiriting. Hate to say it, but they're good at this scouting lark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,789 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Inigo said: Looks like West Ham have bid £20 million for Dembele. 'To that end, a bid of £20m – a figure close to the Club’s all-time transfer record – was submitted for a player from Scotland.' https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/january/05-january/insider £19.5 million profit in 7 months. That's fucking dispiriting. Hate to say it, but they're good at this scouting lark. Tims have always had a good talk on them to be fair. I mean they were touting Bitton for being 10m but now he's going for 2m. Funnily enough it's the same team that's offering us 2m for Kiernan apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 minute ago, RFCRobertson said: Tims have always had a good talk on them to be fair. I mean they were touting Bitton for being 10m but now he's going for 2m. Funnily enough it's the same team that's offering us 2m for Kiernan apparently. Aye, but this is from the West Ham website. It's not just mhanky chat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,789 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just now, Inigo said: Aye, but this is from the West Ham website. It's not just mhanky chat. Even at that they've apparently denied and said it's well below their evaluation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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