geronimoo 1,474 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, GOAT said: embarrassing the guy like that. He did that himself by being piss poor. OzzieBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,614 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, TMB said: Why wait? Our midfield was absent and being completely overrun. The sooner a change is made to rectify that the better. This argument could be legitimate if the substitution worked, instead he brought on Windass Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, scottyc06 said: Aye because making a sub minutes before half time was good for the club!! Considering it was also the wrong sub to make, maybe holding off & having time to think/discuss it might have actually benefited the entire club! A change needed to be made as Halliday went completely missing and our midfield was being overrun. I remember Scott Allan being hooked first-half of a game a few months back at Ibrox these things happen and players need to take it on the chin. The feelings of Andy Halliday should never superseded the good of the football team.Has the manager to sit on his hands afraid to make a change in case poor Andy gets all upset and embarrassed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,810 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 32 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: This argument could be legitimate if the substitution worked, instead he brought on Windass Multiple options. Do nothing. The worst option. Make a sub. Right option. Sub Halliday. Decent option, the windass point is a fair one. Alternatives for me would have been Martin for Alves due to how poor he was or to bring on Alves for Halliday and push RM into CDM. Murty fucked up and it was clear to all it need changed. The only credit he gets is for trying to change it. I don't think any player on the bench would have countered every other player being poor but it's wrong to say it was the wrong decision as the sub didn't work. And getting the right result or at least making the effort to change things to get it is more important than the feelings of an underperforming player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Jela 20,384 Posted April 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2018 Halliday, just like he did with McGregor last year for their first, let Rogic simply walk by him to let McCrorie deal with him one on one, which of course would only leave one outcome. We weren’t much better when Windass came on but with Halliday on the park yesterday we were completely ran over in midfield. Halliday’s fragile wee ego was damaged at being subbed off, when his ego should have been damaged at his pathetic performance. TMB, jjbscotty12, A.T.G and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: This argument could be legitimate if the substitution worked, instead he brought on Windass The success or failure of the man who replaced him is irrelevant. At the time the substitution was made our midfield was being overrun and Halliday was nowhere to be found - He had to come off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Multiple options. Do nothing. The worst option. Make a sub. Right option. Sub Halliday. Decent option, the windass point is a fair one. Alternatives for me would have been Martin for Alves due to how poor he was or to bring on Alves for Halliday and push RM into CDM. Murty fucked up and it was clear to all it need changed. The only credit he gets is for trying to change it. I don't think any player on the bench would have countered every other player being poor but it's wrong to say it was the wrong decision as the sub didn't work. And getting the right result or at least making the effort to change things to get it is more important than the feelings of an underperforming player. I don't really understand his point at all. Is the best option to do nothing in case it doesn't work? Murty rolled the dice, it didn't work, that doesn't mean it was wrong to remove Halliday from the pitch. Halliday was fucken rotten and had to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,234 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, don logan said: It was shite man management by Murty. Would have made absolutely no difference waiting to half time. Depends how many more times he would have passed to an opponent or fallen over rather than make a tackle. As I said before he should have been hooked far earlier. Alves should have come on then with McCririe going to midfield and we would then have had one midfield player to combat them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowRangers1983 461 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 52 minutes ago, bordersbear said: HAVE! HAVE NOT OF! FUCKING RETARDS! NO BETTER THAN FUCKING TAIGS! I honestly have no clue what your response means or refers to......... but you do still seems extremely angry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,276 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Murty was wrong 3 times 1. AH should never have been playing 2. He should have been taken off after 10 mins, fuck half time. 3. When he did go off it should have been for Alves at CH and Ross to midfield. Getting run all over and he brings on Windass FFS. docspiderman, gazz74, BridgeIsBlue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer time 653 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Aye pretty embarrassing for him but not one person in blue in the stadium yesterday was feeling good at that point in time and there is no time for anybody's hurt feelings when you are getting your nose rubbed in it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenDavis 112 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Can't get my head round this throwing Halliday under the bus chat. He made the change as Windass is a goal scoring threat and had he gotten a goal before half time the whole complexion of the game changes. Why wait 5 minutes until half time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhW 4,669 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Can we please stop saying that everyone has been thrown under a bus. Zappa6995, cushynumber and MasterD 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, OhW said: Can we please stop saying that everyone has been thrown under a bus. fair enough. thrown to the lions maybe? OhW 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, OhW said: I don't even understand how subbing Halliday early is throwing him under the bus. Murty didn't save himself any criticism by subbing Halliday. If I had to use a cliche I would say he put Halliday in the firing line (lions/wolves also accepted). neither do I. I have no sympathy for hallidays wee temper tantrum. Murty gave him a chance and he failed so was hooked. end of. OhW 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 The way Halliday was treated will have had even Murtys allies in the dressing room shaking their heads, with 4 minutes to go until they got back into the dressing room he should have seen it out instead of giving that lot even more to celebrate. When we went 1 down the alarm bells were ringing for a formation change never mind after 40 mins where he had a personale change and formation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetherburnBear 173 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Big Al II said: Murty was wrong 3 times 1. AH should never have been playing 2. He should have been taken off after 10 mins, fuck half time. 3. When he did go off it should have been for Alves at CH and Ross to midfield. Getting run all over and he brings on Windass FFS. Everyone in the stadium could see this, how on earth Murty didn't sums him up as a manager. Halliday shouldn't have been on the park in the first place, a good half hour against Dundee doesn't merit a start against celtic , Holt would have done a better job. Murtys tactics cost us the game right from the kick off, one of the worst performances against the scum iv ever seen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,579 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Nah, couldn't care less about Halliday. Couldn't give a fuck for any of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooperSF 5,792 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 12,905 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 3 hours ago, TMB said: The success or failure of the man who replaced him is irrelevant. At the time the substitution was made our midfield was being overrun and Halliday was nowhere to be found - He had to come off. So windass was going to stop us being overrun. Be serious.. Halliday was no worse than any other cunt yesterday and mccrorie was by far the worst cunt on the park Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhW 4,669 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, CooperSF said: Anyone know Brian Imrie? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Was Windass already stripping off before their 2nd or have I misremembered that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 27,022 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Ger_onimo said: Was Windass already stripping off before their 2nd or have I misremembered that? He was, yea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,436 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Wonder if the reaction to the sub would be the same if it was someone like Martin that got subbed off on 40mins King Jela 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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