Virtuoso 27,180 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 For anyone who hasn't read it: https://tinyurl.com/y898qolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,615 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Anyone more familiar with it care to summarise? Domthenbud 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SeparateEntityMyArse 53,766 Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, graeme_4 said: Anyone more familiar with it care to summarise? "Bend over and take everything we give you up the arse if you want to play fitba again you cheating bastards". graeme_4, Courtyard Bear, BridgeIsBlue and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 There are 2 agreements, the original one green refused to sign and the one in the link, which makes no mention of titles or stripping, I don't think the original has surfaced yet. Sweetheart 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianb1547 3,767 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I'm assuming that one wont be an agreement then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgally 452 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, backup said: There are 2 agreements, the original one green refused to sign and the one in the link, which makes no mention of titles or stripping, I don't think the original has surfaced yet. To give him his due was it no Ally that said "we're no fucking signing that ", i think Green was for signing anything. Deanzmeanzheinz, Negri's lovechild and Bydo 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bydo 3,227 Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, bgally said: To give him his due was it no Ally that said "we're no fucking signing that ", i think Green was for signing anything. The one thing we can truly be thankful to Ally for. But that's it. cascadeshrimp, BridgeIsBlue, Copland bear and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, bgally said: To give him his due was it no Ally that said "we're no fucking signing that ", i think Green was for signing anything. Ally said a lot of things, mainly how much and what's in it for me, as for the signing of the 5 way and what Ally allegedly said I have absolutely no idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 52 minutes ago, bgally said: To give him his due was it no Ally that said "we're no fucking signing that ", i think Green was for signing anything. It was. Green was more than prepared to accept title stripping as a consequence of getting the licence to play. McCoist - and others including Sandy Jardine - firmly put him in his place over that one. Copland bear, bgally, JCDBigBear and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post K.A.I 36,183 Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 I think Green said he didn't realise how important the titles were at first then after consideration he wouldn't sign the one with the title stripping. Obviously with McCoist and Jardine's input. Just a shame McCoist's wee soundbyte about never forgetting who kicked us when we were down didn't last long - months later he was criticising the fans for non-existing death threats to the transfer embargo panel and then after that saying he was disappointed that Hearts never got to host the Ramsdens final instead of Hibs as they were in administration or needed the money, despite them being the first ones to vote us out the leagues. McCoist cares about McCoist only as far as I'm concerned, if the titles they wanted to take weren't ones he'd had a hand in as part of the management set-up he'd have rolled over like the little whore he was. I don't have time to read all of that link but I think it was right we agreed to pay our footballing debts - I'd have also went one step further and said the first couple of million from the 24-million Green raised from the share issue to pay off the rest of the debts to your average man and company. It's only fair. Not everyone agree's with me tho. stfu, JCDBigBear, Garnock Blue and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, backup said: There are 2 agreements, the original one green refused to sign and the one in the link, which makes no mention of titles or stripping, I don't think the original has surfaced yet. is this it ? https://www.scribd.com/document/164650989/5-Way-Agreement-as-Issued-to-All-Parties-for-Signature Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: is this it ? https://www.scribd.com/document/164650989/5-Way-Agreement-as-Issued-to-All-Parties-for-Signature No the original was stripping of titles, removed from the one we signed under duress. Sweetheart 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp9 753 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 You forget the shit we went through. Fucking criminal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 7 hours ago, backup said: No the original was stripping of titles, removed from the one we signed under duress. yep I remember, Green rejected it because the governing boards attempted to hand a punishment before there was even a trial https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/941123/sfls-ebt-fury/#ixzz27FDUquJl Copland bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 11 hours ago, Bydo said: The one thing we can truly be thankful to Ally for. But that's it. Dont forget 355 goals and 27 against sellick - then thats it But what a that it is ? Blue_Devil, Billythebear77, Sparkle and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stfu 596 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 11 hours ago, bgally said: To give him his due was it no Ally that said "we're no fucking signing that ", i think Green was for signing anything. No it wasn't. I happen to know someone who was in the room and Green was the one who told them that there would be no stripping of titles. He may have been a cock and was probably doing it to serve his own interests but Green most definitely told them that title stripping would not be happening. To be fair Ally then supported Green in digging his heels in. I was also told that Ally also missed two meetings about this within the club before the main meeting. Take from that what you will. JCDBigBear, Copland bear and bornabear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxric72 199 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, stfu said: No it wasn't. I happen to know someone who was in the room and Green was the one who told them that there would be no stripping of titles. He may have been a cock and was probably doing it to serve his own interests but Green most definitely told them that title stripping would not be happening. To be fair Ally then supported Green in digging his heels in. I was also told that Ally also missed two meetings about this within the club before the main meeting. Take from that what you will. Well thats certainly a new take on the way things have been spun in the past. Not saying i dont believe you btw but surprised Green said that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,205 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, stfu said: No it wasn't. I happen to know someone who was in the room and Green was the one who told them that there would be no stripping of titles. He may have been a cock and was probably doing it to serve his own interests but Green most definitely told them that title stripping would not be happening. To be fair Ally then supported Green in digging his heels in. I was also told that Ally also missed two meetings about this within the club before the main meeting. Take from that what you will. I heard this too mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 9 hours ago, stfu said: No it wasn't. I happen to know someone who was in the room and Green was the one who told them that there would be no stripping of titles. He may have been a cock and was probably doing it to serve his own interests but Green most definitely told them that title stripping would not be happening. To be fair Ally then supported Green in digging his heels in. I was also told that Ally also missed two meetings about this within the club before the main meeting. Take from that what you will. I know Jim Ballantyne the then Airdrie chairman and committee member of the SPL and he told me that Green was agreeing to it during the meeting until McCoist threatened to walk out At that moment there was a break in the meeting and Green and Ally had a animated discussion for 2/3 minutes by which time Green completely changed his mind and refused title stripping - point blank good bluenose is Ballantyne btw ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 23 hours ago, bgally said: To give him his due was it no Ally that said "we're no fucking signing that ", i think Green was for signing anything. you imagine Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,302 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Hoping someone can clear this up for me. Are the recent SFA charges an attempt to make something stick, so they can justify this agreement? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said: Hoping someone can clear this up for me. Are the recent SFA charges an attempt to make something stick, so they can justify this agreement? No Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 Here's an old article from VB which contains the original draft of the Five Way Agreement where the stripping of trophies is mentioned: http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/the-five-way-agreement.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsRangersForMe 13 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 On 16/05/2018 at 11:19, Bydo said: The one thing we can truly be thankful to Ally for. But that's it. And scoring about 250 goals. Dickie1963 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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