Popular Post Ivybank 4,643 Posted February 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Badger said: If the game was not on live TV, there is every chance McGregor would not have been cited. If McGregor played for a lower profile club, there is every chance McGregor would not have been cited. If the Sportscene or whatever editor decided it wasn't a talking point, there is every chance McGregor would not have been cited. and there in a nutshell is the problem with the system........ I don't have an issue with McGregor having retrospective action taken, but I do have an issue with the countless other incidents this season of similar or more severe magnitude that had no further action taken. The argument against that is our game against the tims was on TV and Lego nearly took candieas leg off ,yet it wasn't highlighted ,it's just plain bias Bears, Courtyard Bear, bluenoz and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SeparateEntityMyArse 54,338 Posted February 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, cushynumber said: I think the statement appears a little weak. Where they say “However, it is abundantly clear questions about the current disciplinary system, which we believe is flawed, must be posed". - what was stopping them publically listing some or all of the questions? and saying why they believe they are flawed? We are again guilty of trying to not upset to many people publically, when in point of fact, maybe thats EXACTLY what we should be doing. It's weak to the extent of why bother. It's showed we're unhappy, thats about it. There's nothing to prevent us listing the multitude of reasons why. Clarifying what we've said isn't going to bring charges more than its going to happen for what we've said already. Nothing will change, we're led by shitebags. gmcf, eejay the dj, dougie76 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,331 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, cushynumber said: anybody with N5 english could word a strong statement without naming names The last strong statement we made cost us 6000 quid and fell on deaf ears. Perhaps it is the fans who need to be heard. We have enough club groups that need to speak up on everyone's behalf. Power in numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: The last strong statement we made cost us 6000 quid and fell on deaf ears. Perhaps it is the fans who need to be heard. We have enough club groups that need to speak up on everyone's behalf. Power in numbers. again....why are we scared of a £6k fine? Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 12,905 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Go to war or say fuck all at all. We’re in dialogue with sfa,aye well good luck with that one. Don’t need a statement just publish facts and figures ger4life_1872 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,654 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 You come out lol guns blazing and we’ll be fined again then they will be pissing themselves. This is no more than to state to us that it’s not gone unnoticed nd they are pursuing it behind the scenes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBF2 3,540 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, cushynumber said: again....why are we scared of a £6k fine? Mate your sentiments are probably echoed by everyone in the thread, but we can't just go out and take fines whenever we want, regardless of how small an amount it is relative to our stature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,331 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, ScottBF2 said: Mate your sentiments are probably echoed by everyone in the thread, but we can't just go out and take fines whenever we want, regardless of how small an amount it is relative to our stature. It's also out of principle. I wouldn't give them a penny more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, KingKirk said: So lets just keep getting shafted great idea that What difference would a statement do? Cunts keep saying show them up for what they are, we all know what they are ffs and so do the media so who exactly are we showing them up to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottBF2 said: Mate your sentiments are probably echoed by everyone in the thread, but we can't just go out and take fines whenever we want, regardless of how small an amount it is relative to our stature. i think its as an extremely small price to pay to publically fight your corner. Courtyard Bear, Bears r us, Bad Robot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Genuinely think even the most explosive strongly worded statement won't make a blind difference to the authorities who we know are in Lawwell's back pocket. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 44 minutes ago, bluenoz said: The last strong statement we made cost us 6000 quid and fell on deaf ears. Perhaps it is the fans who need to be heard. We have enough club groups that need to speak up on everyone's behalf. Power in numbers. Cmon mate 6000 quid How much money is the bias and corruption costing us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,331 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Cmon mate 6000 quid How much money is the bias and corruption costing us Fair enough. I just think we need to have an alternative route ( not sure what ). Have club 1872 commented? They are the second largest shareholder afterall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SeparateEntityMyArse 54,338 Posted February 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2019 Should say nothing publicly, bridge build behind scenes, be respectful to refs and the authorities. Thats the spirit. Hope we've lubed well as we're going to be getting fucked up the arse for many years to come. And as the authorities ramp up their agenda against us, and more players get suspended or injured, wave bye bye to 55 whilst we're at it. Bad Robot, Courtyard Bear, BlanketOfBlue and 3 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: Fair enough. I just think we need to have an alternative route ( not sure what ). Have club 1872 commented? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 The problem with another statement isn’t the £6k it’s the fact that’ll it have no substance hence it’ll be ignored as with the Murdoch MacLennan debacle. The next statement Rangers make requires a credible threat attached to it that they will see through. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,121 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Just fuck off with that crap statement Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted February 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2019 A stiffer statement along the following lines was called for imo: Rangers does not accept this decision. It will respect it and comply but as a matter of record we do not accept it. We regard the decision as fundamentally flawed and incorrect. It raises very serious concerns about how such cases are brought forward for consideration and - frankly - about the integrity with which resulting decisions are made. The football authorities in Scotland, the football clubs in Scotland and indeed the media in Scotland are put on notice that Rangers has no confidence in the system and procedures being applied by the football authorities. That erosion of confidence is absolute and complete. Rangers will reserve the right to take appropriate action, including legal action, in instances where the Club considers that decisions are made against Rangers which are manifestly unfair or plain wrong. Until an immediate overhaul of the system has taken place and replacement of those operating it by persons who are clearly competent, experienced and patently independent then Rangers' co-operation with Scottish football authorities will be restricted to the bare minimum legal essentials. This is a matter of the utmost importance to Rangers and to Rangers Supporters and the matter must be quickly resolved to Rangers full satisfaction. The ball is in the court of the football authorities. They must urgently reform the disciplinary system and staff it with persons who are plainly competent and experienced so proper confidence can be restored. As matters stand Rangers regards the system and fundamentally failed and those who operate it as fundamentally failing Scottish football. BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT, Howsitgoing, gmcf and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,331 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Reformation Bear said: A stiffer statement along the following lines was called for imo: Rangers does not accept this decision. It will respect it and comply but as a matter of record we do not accept it. We regard the decision as fundamentally flawed and incorrect. It raises very serious concerns about how such cases are brought forward for consideration and - frankly - about the integrity with which resulting decisions are made. The football authorities in Scotland, the football clubs in Scotland and indeed the media in Scotland are put on notice that Rangers has no confidence in the system and procedures being applied by the football authorities. That erosion of confidence is absolute and complete. Rangers will reserve the right to take appropriate action, including legal action, in instances where the Club considers that decisions are made against Rangers which are manifestly unfair or plain wrong. Until an immediate overhaul of the system has taken place and replacement of those operating it by persons who are clearly competent, experienced and patently independent then Rangers' co-operation with Scottish football authorities will be restricted to the bare minimum legal essentials. This is a matter of the utmost importance to Rangers and to Rangers Supporters and the matter must be quickly resolved to Rangers full satisfaction. The ball is in the court of the football authorities. They must urgently reform the disciplinary system and staff it with persons who are plainly competent and experienced so proper confidence can be restored. As matters stand Rangers regards the system and fundamentally failed and those who operate it as fundamentally failing Scottish football. I love it RB. A class and strong statement without naming names. You can take over Traynor's job any time. True Hair Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del 667 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 56 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Board needs chased they've had enough chances liewells puppets will be pissing themselves at that job done eh What were you hoping they would do? Refuse to play games, release more strongly worded statements, call out certain people? Listing offences that we feel have went against us would make us look petty and achieve nothing in my opinion, the club had done all that we could and releasing a statment a few days before this would not have mattered either! bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,121 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Del said: What were you hoping they would do? Refuse to play games, release more strongly worded statements, call out certain people? Listing offences that we feel have went against us would make us look petty and achieve nothing in my opinion, the club had done all that we could and releasing a statment a few days before this would not have mattered either! Hi James, how is level 5 doing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,510 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Reformation Bear said: A stiffer statement along the following lines was called for imo: Rangers does not accept this decision. It will respect it and comply but as a matter of record we do not accept it. We regard the decision as fundamentally flawed and incorrect. It raises very serious concerns about how such cases are brought forward for consideration and - frankly - about the integrity with which resulting decisions are made. The football authorities in Scotland, the football clubs in Scotland and indeed the media in Scotland are put on notice that Rangers has no confidence in the system and procedures being applied by the football authorities. That erosion of confidence is absolute and complete. Rangers will reserve the right to take appropriate action, including legal action, in instances where the Club considers that decisions are made against Rangers which are manifestly unfair or plain wrong. Until an immediate overhaul of the system has taken place and replacement of those operating it by persons who are clearly competent, experienced and patently independent then Rangers' co-operation with Scottish football authorities will be restricted to the bare minimum legal essentials. This is a matter of the utmost importance to Rangers and to Rangers Supporters and the matter must be quickly resolved to Rangers full satisfaction. The ball is in the court of the football authorities. They must urgently reform the disciplinary system and staff it with persons who are plainly competent and experienced so proper confidence can be restored. As matters stand Rangers regards the system and fundamentally failed and those who operate it as fundamentally failing Scottish football. Shite statement. The bit I have highlighted in bold describes the act of accepting something, then goes on to say that you are not accepting it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin9091 1,405 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 The manager can say fuck all. But what's to stop the Chairman of the biggest club in the country complaining about the standard of referring, standard of evidence required to find in our favour (being that there was both video evidence of jack being kicked and clearly there was enough for McGregor to be banned) and obvious inconsistencies with the CO procedure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del 667 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Reformation Bear said: A stiffer statement along the following lines was called for imo: Rangers does not accept this decision. It will respect it and comply but as a matter of record we do not accept it. We regard the decision as fundamentally flawed and incorrect. It raises very serious concerns about how such cases are brought forward for consideration and - frankly - about the integrity with which resulting decisions are made. The football authorities in Scotland, the football clubs in Scotland and indeed the media in Scotland are put on notice that Rangers has no confidence in the system and procedures being applied by the football authorities. That erosion of confidence is absolute and complete. Rangers will reserve the right to take appropriate action, including legal action, in instances where the Club considers that decisions are made against Rangers which are manifestly unfair or plain wrong. Until an immediate overhaul of the system has taken place and replacement of those operating it by persons who are clearly competent, experienced and patently independent then Rangers' co-operation with Scottish football authorities will be restricted to the bare minimum legal essentials. This is a matter of the utmost importance to Rangers and to Rangers Supporters and the matter must be quickly resolved to Rangers full satisfaction. The ball is in the court of the football authorities. They must urgently reform the disciplinary system and staff it with persons who are plainly competent and experienced so proper confidence can be restored. As matters stand Rangers regards the system and fundamentally failed and those who operate it as fundamentally failing Scottish football. A lot of words that at first glance make you think oh aye fuck the SFA no surrender and all that but there really isn't any substance to it... We start going on about not accepting decisions or having no confidence and we get fined (again) for doing so...and as for threatening to take legal action who exactly do we take to court or take action against and on what grounds? What exactly are the club doing over and above the "minimum legal essentials" at the moment that we could stop doing? If the above gets said by Rangers we become a laughing stock! slimjim1690 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del 667 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, dummiesoot said: Hi James, how is level 5 doing? I think you've quoted the wrong person I am not James. Level 5 is still level 5, not quite as high in the chain at level 6, but higher than level 1-4 so its all good...🙃 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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