kirkiebear 1,013 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Defeat is our fault tonight. but... One on Zungu is a red Goldson getting dragged back as he’s running into the box, penalty not given. Goldson held as he’s going for the ball in the box , hmmm need a second replay. Kent clipped going through on goal, penalty or free kick, yellow card somehow for Kent. Kent fouled on the line right infront of ref, St Mirren player leaves big slide mark on the line where he committed foul. Free kick given instead of penalty. Those decisions along with letting their wee niggly fouls go but penalising ours, made the night even more frustrating. The linesman was actually right to disallow our goal for the ball going out of play , so I’m not sure a moan is even valid, but it was bizarre how he seen that from an impossible angle further up the park on the otherside of the pitch 😂 Anyways can’t blame the ref for the goals we lost , but I think he had a shocker. Bears, Sweetheart and BlueAvenger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,614 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Here we go again ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,971 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Also, conceding a goal to a corner when we lost a centre half to a blatant elbow to the face didn't help. Over to you Claire Whyte... magic8ball and Howsitgoing 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,678 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, bluenoz said: You know what mate, I've played/watched the game for 50 years and I still get confused with the offside rule. He was defo offside when the cross came in but is he then deemed onside after Mcgregor makes the safe? Possibly. It’s from when the guy heads the ball mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 hours ago, bluenoz said: Also, conceding a goal to a corner when we lost a centre half to a blatant elbow to the face didn't help. Over to you Claire Whyte... When I player gets a head injury with a challenge like that ,at a time when there is a big push to look after players with head injuries ,You would expect something . But just like the game at Rossco with the allegations of homophobia during the rainbow laces weekend ,Where an internal investigation found nothing .Then I’m pretty sure nothing will happen .Afterall it is Scottish football it just doesn’t do awareness . Secondly ,In the last 2 games we have seen a raise of the bar in over the top physical behaviour .Teams have suddenly remembered that you can get away with naughty stuff against us . When you see the way the Morelos incident has subsequently been dealt with especially in the media which in turn brings in the CO .Refs just are very wary about making big calls against us . Howsitgoing and Sweetheart 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 7 hours ago, bluenoz said: Also, conceding a goal to a corner when we lost a centre half to a blatant elbow to the face didn't help. Over to you Claire Whyte... That what I was away to comment on. That and the dangerous tackle that should of been a red. Liewells whore has two incidents to put forward to the panel of fenian referees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, magic8ball said: When I player gets a head injury with a challenge like that ,at a time when there is a big push to look after players with head injuries ,You would expect something . But just like the game at Rossco with the allegations of homophobia during the rainbow laces weekend ,Where an internal investigation found nothing .Then I’m pretty sure nothing will happen .Afterall it is Scottish football it just doesn’t do awareness . Secondly ,In the last 2 games we have seen a raise of the bar in over the top physical behaviour .Teams have suddenly remembered that you can get away with naughty stuff against us . When you see the way the Morelos incident has subsequently been dealt with especially in the media which in turn brings in the CO .Refs just are very wary about making big calls against us . We are fearful of the similarities of last season where our good run ended in the league yet we seemed to continue with great performances in Europe. Their compliance officer intervening and the referee last night allowing a red card offence to go as only a yellow with a serious elbow to the face also going unpunished could be the reason why this similarities occur. We know we have to play to give the referees little options to send off players, that’s what makes Morelos’s incident annoying because he did just that but how do we counteract them being allowed to foul where serious injuries could occur. That tackle was horrendous and for it only to be a yellow was outrageous and the elbow will not get shown with the same amount of scrutiny as we got with Morelos. The poor refereeing allows other teams a way forward to beat us and that could be the reason on why we might have an almost mirrored situation to last season. Sweetheart, Bears and bluemc 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,818 Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 A few poor decisions going against us, including 2 penalties, a yellow for simulation instead of foul, and a naughty borderline red, forearm into Baloguns face. No issues their penalty. That's why we need to be good enough to write refs out of the game in terms of influencing results. Last night we didn't because of how poor we were. Things like Morelos stupidity will cripple us if they continue too. Cup game so not adding to results, but as much as last night is down to Gerrard and players the impact of poor refereeing shouldn't be ignored. Bears, Howsitgoing and five stars 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 An incident where a player has went off due to a head knock getting so little scrutiny with Craigan writing it off during a possible 10 sec discussion with no close ups, isn’t normal. jintybear, Sweetheart, five stars and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: We are fearful of the similarities of last season where our good run ended in the league yet we seemed to continue with great performances in Europe. Their compliance officer intervening and the referee last night allowing a red card offence to go as only a yellow with a serious elbow to the face also going unpunished could be the reason why this similarities occur. We know we have to play to give the referees little options to send off players, that’s what makes Morelos’s incident annoying because he did just that but how do we counteract them being allowed to foul where serious injuries could occur. That tackle was horrendous and for it only to be a yellow was outrageous and the elbow will not get shown with the same amount of scrutiny as we got with Morelos. The poor refereeing allows other teams a way forward to beat us and that could be the reason on why we might have an almost mirrored situation to last season. Haranging the ref in groups would be a start . Do it individually and you get booked for disent It is looking out for moments like this thoughout the game . The scum used to do it for fun . And it worked We are absolutely shocking at using the dark arts of the game . We have been since SG took over us. Big Connor claimed for a pen last night and not one player was even arsed to back him up . Result no pressure on the ref Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Haranging the ref in groups would be a start . Do it individually and you get booked for disent It is looking out for moments like this thoughout the game . The scum used to do it for fun . And it worked We are absolutely shocking at using the dark arts of the game . We have been since SG took over us. Big Connor claimed for a pen last night and not one player was even arsed to back him up . Result no pressure on the ref We weren’t doing that in our previous games this season but we were winning comfortably. The compliance officer showing that they will pull up referees that fail to send off one of our players happened the same time last season. The referees haven’t been an issue up till last night, we have never had incidents where a clear red card was ignored or an elbow resulting in a head injury goes unpunished. The CO will not go near it, the media won’t question it and our opposition teams will realise that end of last seasons rules apply to us again and have a game plan that at this moment of time we can’t beat. Bears 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, magic8ball said: When I player gets a head injury with a challenge like that ,at a time when there is a big push to look after players with head injuries ,You would expect something . But just like the game at Rossco with the allegations of homophobia during the rainbow laces weekend ,Where an internal investigation found nothing .Then I’m pretty sure nothing will happen .Afterall it is Scottish football it just doesn’t do awareness . Secondly ,In the last 2 games we have seen a raise of the bar in over the top physical behaviour .Teams have suddenly remembered that you can get away with naughty stuff against us . When you see the way the Morelos incident has subsequently been dealt with especially in the media which in turn brings in the CO .Refs just are very wary about making big calls against us . Just an observations but the OTT physical behavior also coincides with a small number of fans being allowed back into the stadium. Also has there been an update on Dallas' injury yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: A few poor decisions going against us, including 2 penalties, a yellow for simulation instead of foul, and a naughty borderline red, forearm into Baloguns face. No issues their penalty. That's why we need to be good enough to write refs out of the game in terms of influencing results. Last night we didn't because of how poor we were. Things like Morelos stupidity will cripple us if they continue too. Cup game so not adding to results, but as much as last night is down to Gerrard and players the impact of poor refereeing shouldn't be ignored. Why shouldn't they be questioned if there are big decisions that alter game play? I'm sure that when the team sit down to talk about what went wrong, they'll be questioning some of the refs decisions and how it effected their play. Howsitgoing 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,678 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Just an observations but the OTT physical behavior also coincides with a small number of fans being allowed back into the stadium. Also has there been an update on Dallas' injury yet? No fans were allowed in in those two games so it’s not coinciding at all. Junior Soprano, Sweetheart and jintybear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 9 hours ago, bluenoz said: That ref was a wrong yin tonight. I feel it in my guts but then again, I'm a bad loser. Always have been. I can assure you he’s not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: No fans were allowed in in those two games so it’s not coinciding at all. Small numbers have been allowed back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Junior Soprano said: I can assure you he’s not. He’s following the script then. This referee is either a coward or a fenian, one of the two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,678 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Small numbers have been allowed back. Not in Dundee or Paisley considering both are tier 3 jintybear and Sweetheart 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: He’s following the script then. This referee is either a coward or a fenian, one of the two. He’s just poor ffs. He’s been drafted in for the juniors Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, Junior Soprano said: He’s just poor ffs. He’s been drafted in for the juniors Why was he allowed to ref a cup match? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Junior Soprano said: I can assure you he’s not. 'A massive bluenose' I've been told by a mate that knows him. Junior Soprano 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Why was he allowed to ref a cup match? He was the 4th official Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Inigo said: 'A massive bluenose' I've been told by a mate that knows him. He is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Why was he allowed to ref a cup match? Believe it or not there is a shortage of refs in the game up here. From boys to pros. Sweetheart 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Junior Soprano said: Believe it or not there is a shortage of refs in the game up here. From boys to pros. I wonder why ,Possibly the same reason the quality has dived in the last 10 years . Howsitgoing and Sweetheart 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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