TamCoopz 19,605 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, Ibroxholm said: Is that not the logical next step on what you were suggesting. Absolutely not 😂😂😂 RangersMedia 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YearsofWar 549 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Booing the players for taking the knee is no benefit to us. It will accomplish nothing more than severely pissing off our players who are vitally important to our club and making our support look bad when the BBC run the highlights of it repeatedly all over the UK. I don't support taking the knee or BLM at all and I wish the kneeling would stop but our players on the pitch won't see your boo's as an anti-political/anti-BLM protest, they'll only see us as racists. It doesn't matter what your intent is. If you can't keep your mouth shut for 3 seconds then make sure you enter the stadium after kick off, then you won't have to deal with it. slimjim1690 and cothalbear 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,277 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I hate the political threads because there is never a resolve. Only people living inside an echo chamber where their own opinion matters the most and then it is rinse, repeat for days on end. The people who feel threatened or angry at players taking the knee are never coming on board to think like the vast majority of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 91,046 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Belittle cunts booing by cheering and clapping them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,291 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Maybe this is the wrong club for you. Yawn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,291 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, The Dude said: Racial equality doesn't apply in the UK? Yeh, BLM is all about racial equality 😂. Rowley Birkin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: The players have continually been clear in why they kneel. Does anyone who boos the 'perceived' support of BLM think young footballers earning thousands of pounds a week are closet Marxists? If what you say is true then I withdraw my long winded comment, it's just that I haven't seen any statement from club or otherwise that the players would resume taking the knee for the upcoming season, as for you're marxist comment then, no I don't believe our players are closet marxists, Tav just explained why the players are taking the knee but unfortunately they are being drawn in [most likely against their will due to frustration] with a perceived support by many for BLM by adopting their gesture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,932 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Good decision. Any non-violent effort to stamp out racism is an effort worth making, Nameless Ghoul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, slimjim1690 said: If what you say is true then I withdraw my long winded comment, it's just that I haven't seen any statement from club or otherwise that the players would resume taking the knee for the upcoming season, as for you're marxist comment then, no I don't believe our players are closet marxists, Tav just explained why the players are taking the knee but unfortunately they are being drawn in [most likely against their will due to frustration] with a perceived support by many for BLM by adopting their gesture. Several players have spoken publicly about the reason for taking a knee. Here's Jermain Defoe as far back as last September - “The positive is probably the awareness and all the high-profile people - not just in football, but in sport in general - that have used their platforms to keep the movement going. “Everyone seems to be talking about it, which is something that we wanted. That change. “You watch the stuff that is happening in America with the basketball and the levels that they are going to. “Taking a knee continuing before the game is not just for the black players. I think it is for everyone, to be honest.” “You look at the marches and all these people together show this generation, if you like, is not going to tolerate racism and stuff like that, which is nice. “I would like to think that it will continue and there will be some big changes, because it is definitely needed.” Here's Connor Goldson last July: Let’s try again. The hate and ignorance in the comments of the last picture were disgusting but not surprising. This isn’t about politics it’s about equality!!! We all need educating, myself included! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskbankloyal 19,446 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 54 minutes ago, southcoastbear said: Difficult as I would it, I would have to accept it as I could not accept the removal of a cornerstone of democracy, namely the right to peaceful protest. Protesting against an anti racism stance is not a peaceful protest FFS The Dude, Misteral, Bluekev and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 91,046 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Brilliant how people are tunnel visioned with the taking of the knee to make it solely about BLM to suit their argument/agenda If it wasn't so stupid it would be genius Darth Bear and Bluekev 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ibroxholm said: Yeh, BLM is all about racial equality 😂. Did you miss the bit when James Tavernier said "this is a very simple, but we hope, effective gesture. It is a symbolic stance against racism, nothing more and nothing less."? Is he lying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Several players have spoken publicly about the reason for taking a knee. Here's Jermain Defoe as far back as last September - “The positive is probably the awareness and all the high-profile people - not just in football, but in sport in general - that have used their platforms to keep the movement going. “Everyone seems to be talking about it, which is something that we wanted. That change. “You watch the stuff that is happening in America with the basketball and the levels that they are going to. “Taking a knee continuing before the game is not just for the black players. I think it is for everyone, to be honest.” “You look at the marches and all these people together show this generation, if you like, is not going to tolerate racism and stuff like that, which is nice. “I would like to think that it will continue and there will be some big changes, because it is definitely needed.” Here's Connor Goldson last July: Let’s try again. The hate and ignorance in the comments of the last picture were disgusting but not surprising. This isn’t about politics it’s about equality!!! We all need educating, myself included! Not trying to be an arse here mate but those statements appear to be before they decided not to continue with taking the knee or am I wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nameless Ghoul 6,133 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Did you miss the bit when James Tavernier said "this is a very simple, but we hope, effective gesture. It is a symbolic stance against racism, nothing more and nothing less."? Is he lying? Doubt he's read it at all tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, slimjim1690 said: Not trying to be an arse here mate but those statements appear to be before they decided not to continue with taking the knee or am I wrong? Both are from before then, yes. Both make clear the players' reasons for kneeling, standing, doing somersaults or any other gesture in opposition to racism. It has nothing to do with any perceived marxist agenda Misteral 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Creampuff 22,628 Posted July 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2021 Cunts on here think they know more than the people doing it about why they’re taking the knee Darth Bear, eskbankloyal, TamCoopz and 7 others 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracle 7,834 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Choose a gesture that doesn't glorify bringing down Capitalism, destroying the nuclear family and bringing people down rather than raising them up and I'm 100% behind it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Both are from before then, yes. Both make clear the players' reasons for kneeling, standing, doing somersaults or any other gesture in opposition to racism. It has nothing to do with any perceived marxist agenda My mistake, I took those statements as reasons for taking the knee and not the part in bold, if you go back to my OP you'll remember that I specifically suggested that the confusion among fans was that all the players took the knee after saying last year that they wouldn't any more as it was an empty gesture, so what has happened in the meantime to change their opinion, I think it's a reasonable question to ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskbankloyal 19,446 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, miracle said: Choose a gesture that doesn't glorify bringing down Capitalism, destroying the nuclear family and bringing people down rather than raising them up and I'm 100% behind it. You are hilariously simple mitre_mouldmaster 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, King Jela said: I'd be amazed if there were any booing tomorrow after the arguments through the week about it. If there is trouble in the stands over it its because of the ones booing. That sounds like thinly veiled threat. FYI. As assault is where a person intentionally or recklessly uses unlawful force against someone else. ... If someone threatens to assault you, but there is no physical violence, then the threats alone could be enough for this to be considered an assault. If someone intentionally spits at you then this may also be an assault Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,662 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, southcoastbear said: That sounds like thinly veiled threat. It wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, southcoastbear said: That sounds like thinly veiled threat. FYI. As assault is where a person intentionally or recklessly uses unlawful force against someone else. ... If someone threatens to assault you, but there is no physical violence, then the threats alone could be enough for this to be considered an assault. If someone intentionally spits at you then this may also be an assault Wit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracle 7,834 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said: You are hilariously simple You don't read much do you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,813 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, southcoastbear said: That sounds like thinly veiled threat. FYI. As assault is where a person intentionally or recklessly uses unlawful force against someone else. ... If someone threatens to assault you, but there is no physical violence, then the threats alone could be enough for this to be considered an assault. If someone intentionally spits at you then this may also be an assault You've lost the plot. TamCoopz and ForeverAndEver 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,333 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Threads like this bring out the best and by far the worse a folk, embarrassing especially in the Champions Den Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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