Roy Hobbs 2,168 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Dude said: Hearts took their players there in 2019 and got relegated. We finished 4th and 5th in the 80s under Wallace as well. The Dude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,704 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, The Dude said: Hearts took their players there in 2019 and got relegated. Obviously they had a poorer standard of players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, DMax399 said: 2 trebles under Jock Wallace would back up that theory. That worked a treat back in the day getting basic fitness into guys that sat about swallying for 2 months during the summer . scottyscott1963, graeme_4 and BookWorm 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 18,327 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, LaaRFC said: Would need to be Michelle McManus with her arse out for them to have any chance of hitting it at the moment I could punt a ball from here and it wouldn't be that far off lard arse. One of my favourite jokes was based on a true story. My son bought a boy racer number along Helen Street and asked me how to lower the suspension,and i told him to see if mick mcmanus had a boyfriend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,521 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Broxi said: If Makaay was saying less tricks, keep it simple people will be saying it’s great. If Makaay was saying be more confident, add some flair and creativity to your game people would also say it was great. There’s absolutely nothing to read into there. They will be judged on the pitch in the coming months For me it wasn’t what he said, but the way he said it that I liked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,704 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 14 hours ago, magic8ball said: That worked a treat back in the day getting basic fitness into guys that sat about swallying for 2 months during the summer . That’s the point though. It is just a method to sharpen fitness, nothing more. There are no end of approaches nowadays to get players fit. You could argue that our approach doesn’t really work with 1 trophy out of 10, or whatever it is. Newer is not always better. magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 52 minutes ago, DMax399 said: That’s the point though. It is just a method to sharpen fitness, nothing more. There are no end of approaches nowadays to get players fit. You could argue that our approach doesn’t really work with 1 trophy out of 10, or whatever it is. Newer is not always better. Don’t think it’s a physical issue regarding cup football . When you look back at our recent cup defeats the opposition have been right up for it .Now you can’t always overcome a team right up for it . But moving forward we need to be ready to battle like fuck from the off and let the quality come through . DMax399 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,168 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, DMax399 said: That’s the point though. It is just a method to sharpen fitness, nothing more. There are no end of approaches nowadays to get players fit. You could argue that our approach doesn’t really work with 1 trophy out of 10, or whatever it is. Newer is not always better. Modern players are far fitter than players of 10 years ago, let alone 40 years ago, and modern sports science is a significant factor, so yes newer is better in this case. Besides, do you really think fitness is the issue with the players, and running about the sand for a day in pre season will fix it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Blue 2,053 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 magic8ball and Cracked Actor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Ayrshire Blue said: First mistake from Gio Caught tapping up his first signing Also bad move bringing in old freinds 😁 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB72 1,525 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Bears r us and Ayrshire Blue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,796 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 First of all we know it is only a wee video of some training and I have no idea how it compares to SG, but I liked to see Gio taking part and the players looked as if they are enjoying it as well. I suppose we will find out tomorrow night if he has managed to install in such a short time, any believe, determination and will to win. scottyscott1963 and Amokachi 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,872 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, Bears r us said: First of all we know it is only a wee video of some training and I have no idea how it compares to SG, but I liked to see Gio taking part and the players looked as if they are enjoying it as well. I suppose we will find out tomorrow night if he has managed to install in such a short time, any believe, determination and will to win. Funny how Gio is better at the boxes than some of the players Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,796 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, plymouthranger said: Funny how Gio is better at the boxes than some of the players Yes, he seemed good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,704 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Roy Hobbs said: Modern players are far fitter than players of 10 years ago, let alone 40 years ago, and modern sports science is a significant factor, so yes newer is better in this case. Besides, do you really think fitness is the issue with the players, and running about the sand for a day in pre season will fix it? It’s more about mentality mate. Modern players are generally weaker mentally than previous generations, in my opinion anyway. Toughening the body using older methods such as the dunes also toughens you mentally, more so than doing a few 20m baselines on a pitch. The original comment about the dunes was just an acknowledgment that it had its time, as Wallace won 2 trebles using that method. I don’t believe the players are particularly unfit, but I do believe a lot of them are mentally weak yes. As an example: when we was still serving in the Army; Tranmere Rovers came to our base for a 5 day training camp as such. We were an Airborne unit so our fitness levels were high, but I remember how quickly the Tranmere guys started to fall back or drop out on what we considered to be relatively easy runs over average distances, considering they were full time professionals. The truth is that our training methods, albeit less scientific and modern than theirs were far more effective at producing arguably far fitter individuals, but also far more mentally stronger individuals, who don’t give up as soon as the going gets a little uncomfortable. I saw a lot of our players display those characteristics on Sunday. A little off topic and out of context but an example of where a training regime with origins in the 1940s, outperformed a professional football training regime in 2010. 5Beckenbauer, SheriffHood and 32Blue 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,168 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 38 minutes ago, DMax399 said: It’s more about mentality mate. Modern players are generally weaker mentally than previous generations, in my opinion anyway. Toughening the body using older methods such as the dunes also toughens you mentally, more so than doing a few 20m baselines on a pitch. The original comment about the dunes was just an acknowledgment that it had its time, as Wallace won 2 trebles using that method. I don’t believe the players are particularly unfit, but I do believe a lot of them are mentally weak yes. As an example: when we was still serving in the Army; Tranmere Rovers came to our base for a 5 day training camp as such. We were an Airborne unit so our fitness levels were high, but I remember how quickly the Tranmere guys started to fall back or drop out on what we considered to be relatively easy runs over average distances, considering they were full time professionals. The truth is that our training methods, albeit less scientific and modern than theirs were far more effective at producing arguably far fitter individuals, but also far more mentally stronger individuals, who don’t give up as soon as the going gets a little uncomfortable. I saw a lot of our players display those characteristics on Sunday. A little off topic and out of context but an example of where a training regime with origins in the 1940s, outperformed a professional football training regime in 2010. You really can't compare soldiers with guys that kick a football about for a living, and shite ones at that. I'd expect guys who have stamina and endurance drilled into them every day to out run footballers, but then I think they'd probably beat you at football, mentally weak or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,770 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Kante would outrun Ant Middleton Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,270 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: Kante would outrun Ant Middleton Ant Middleton would set traps for Kante so he falls in, and Ant can then swoop in and take him out..... 32Blue, Jamie0202 and born a blue nose 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,704 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 15 hours ago, Roy Hobbs said: You really can't compare soldiers with guys that kick a football about for a living, and shite ones at that. I'd expect guys who have stamina and endurance drilled into them every day to out run footballers, but then I think they'd probably beat you at football, mentally weak or not. Opinions are everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,232 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 15 hours ago, born a blue nose said: Kante would outrun Ant Middleton 15 hours ago, MisterC said: Ant Middleton would set traps for Kante so he falls in, and Ant can then swoop in and take him out..... Ant Middleton is a walloper. EMRFC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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