Rangers Da 1872 61 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 13:49, Blacky Bear said: I for one, who never really panics on, is shitting myself with lack of 1st team ins and outs. FFS get the finger out Rangers, in my Opinion we finished Season better than the unwashed, but need to keep the momentum going over Fatso and his War Criminals. How do we replace players fans have put on a pedestal not seen at Ibrox for decades? Look at our strongest 11 McGregor, Tavernier, Bassey, Goldson, Souttar, Lundstram, Jack, Kamara, Aribo, Kent, Morelos. Arguably? Then you've got McLaughlin, Zukowski, Barisic, Helander, Katic, Arfield, Davis, Sands, Wright, Sakala and Hagi all in reserve. And another group after them with likes of McCann King Devine Lowry etc etc who all need minutes. Who are you replacing and improving? Perhaps our scouts can't find better players within our budget? We've signed enough squad fillers. We now need new players to replace those names above, I agree. But who. And at what cost? The squad is enormous. graeme_4, RoboBear, J-Maestro and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigBearButt 3,748 Posted July 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2022 22 hours ago, Rangers Da 1872 said: How do we replace players fans have put on a pedestal not seen at Ibrox for decades? Look at our strongest 11 McGregor, Tavernier, Bassey, Goldson, Souttar, Lundstram, Jack, Kamara, Aribo, Kent, Morelos. Arguably? Then you've got McLaughlin, Zukowski, Barisic, Helander, Katic, Arfield, Davis, Sands, Wright, Sakala and Hagi all in reserve. And another group after them with likes of McCann King Devine Lowry etc etc who all need minutes. Who are you replacing and improving? Perhaps our scouts can't find better players within our budget? We've signed enough squad fillers. We now need new players to replace those names above, I agree. But who. And at what cost? The squad is enormous. This is why we should be focusing on quality and not quantity and also makes a mockery of keeping on davis, mcgregor and arfield. Currently it looks like the board are trying to do it on the cheap as we are sniffing about free transfers and doesn't look like we have any grand plans in terms of signings. Rangers Da 1872, OrangeRab, HG5 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoplandRoad83 3,372 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, BigBearButt said: This is why we should be focusing on quality and not quantity and also makes a mockery of keeping on davis, mcgregor and arfield. Currently it looks like the board are trying to do it on the cheap as we are sniffing about free transfers and doesn't look like we have any grand plans in terms of signings. Its frustrating. I see a lot of good at the club in terms of improving players, coaching and fitness and tactics. Yet when it comes to actually signing or replacing players in our squad we seem to be constantly making short-term, opportunistic decisions. HG5 and graeme_4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Doubtless after Portugal there will be half a dozen or so of squad fillers who will be told to call their agents and find a new club if they want to play any football in the coming season. I am not too fussed over the one year deals given to Davis, Arfield, and McGregor as I can see all 3 having a role to play in what hopefully will be another 60+ game season. Buy low sell high only works with our star players if they want to move. If the attitude is 'I am happy where I am' then that scenario breaks down. One maybe 2 signings is all I expect this window as I suspect that last seasons squad want to go again. I have nothing to back this up it's just my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,456 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 On 01/07/2022 at 17:41, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Canny wait for the "need to get x points from x games" games threads to start tbh. Literally every single game of the season is must win. Kaydubya11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven33jackie 1,972 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Until we get some answers regarding extensions from those in the final 12 months, it's a bit of a stalemate. Hopefully some clarity will emerge during the week away in Portugal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,037 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Gman36 said: Literally every single game of the season is must win. Not literally. When we tie up the title with a games to spare then we can rest players ahead of the Scottish and Euro cup finals Kaydubya11 and Gman36 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Da 1872 61 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 7 hours ago, BigBearButt said: This is why we should be focusing on quality and not quantity and also makes a mockery of keeping on davis, mcgregor and arfield. Currently it looks like the board are trying to do it on the cheap as we are sniffing about free transfers and doesn't look like we have any grand plans in terms of signings. No argument there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboBear 162 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 On 04/07/2022 at 14:04, Rangers Da 1872 said: How do we replace players fans have put on a pedestal not seen at Ibrox for decades? Look at our strongest 11 McGregor, Tavernier, Bassey, Goldson, Souttar, Lundstram, Jack, Kamara, Aribo, Kent, Morelos. Arguably? Then you've got McLaughlin, Zukowski, Barisic, Helander, Katic, Arfield, Davis, Sands, Wright, Sakala and Hagi all in reserve. And another group after them with likes of McCann King Devine Lowry etc etc who all need minutes. Who are you replacing and improving? Perhaps our scouts can't find better players within our budget? We've signed enough squad fillers. We now need new players to replace those names above, I agree. But who. And at what cost? The squad is enormous. I saw "they" won 7-0 last night and thought "so what they were playing nobodies" Then I read in the papers that they did it without about 14 first team regulars and got a bit despondant as they seem to have quality in depth. But as your post shows we also have quality in depth. There's no point in making signings for the sake of it. If we can't find players who are, or could be better than the second group you list then, what's the point? Obviously if any of the first group go they will have to be replaced with equaly good or better players. But that hasn't happened yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,366 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 12:46, Gman36 said: Literally every single game of the season is must win. It's literally not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboBear 162 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: It's literally not. In terms of competetive domestic games and CL qualifiers I think it literally is. They won't drop many points and we need CL group stages. The cups are must win or you're out, and although they don't carry the same importance as the league we want to win them. So as I see it every game IS must win Kaydubya11 and One Jock Wallace 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Da 1872 61 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 11 hours ago, RoboBear said: I saw "they" won 7-0 last night and thought "so what they were playing nobodies" Then I read in the papers that they did it without about 14 first team regulars and got a bit despondant as they seem to have quality in depth. But as your post shows we also have quality in depth. There's no point in making signings for the sake of it. If we can't find players who are, or could be better than the second group you list then, what's the point? Obviously if any of the first group go they will have to be replaced with equaly good or better players. But that hasn't happened yet. We have depth, not quality in depth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,366 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 16 hours ago, RoboBear said: In terms of competetive domestic games and CL qualifiers I think it literally is. They won't drop many points and we need CL group stages. The cups are must win or you're out, and although they don't carry the same importance as the league we want to win them. So as I see it every game IS must win If we win 37 games we can lose the 38th and will literally and with certainty win the league. So whilst it's a cliche I tend to agree with on the whole, it's incorrect to state that literally every game is a must win game. Realosrically, we have to outscore the scum overall v all the others, and then equal or beat the number of points the scum take off us. We will then win the league unless one of the other 10 teams puts in a level of consistency and performance unseen in decades. And as always cups are of huge importance, as is Europe for several reasons, but the league is the be all and end all this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,366 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 So 3 new players signed, all internationals, and the spine of the team strengthened. To what extent will become clear soon on who out the 3 become starters. Goldson on a new deal. Squad backups re-signed in 3 players who know the club and demands inside out, and who should be good enough for run of the mill games if required. Get Kent and Alfie sorted, or sold for mega bucks. For me, another CF would be ideal. Couple in the squad that would ideally be moved on incl Simpson. Decent recruitment window that, and should be enough to get us through CL qualifiers when hopefully more quality can be added. Orange and Blue and Goofy The Scot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,343 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: So 3 new players signed, all internationals, and the spine of the team strengthened. To what extent will become clear soon on who out the 3 become starters. Goldson on a new deal. Squad backups re-signed in 3 players who know the club and demands inside out, and who should be good enough for run of the mill games if required. Get Kent and Alfie sorted, or sold for mega bucks. For me, another CF would be ideal. Couple in the squad that would ideally be moved on incl Simpson. Decent recruitment window that, and should be enough to get us through CL qualifiers when hopefully more quality can be added. And we haven't really spent any money yet on transfers as most of Colak's fee was covered by Itten's departure. SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 84,134 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Been dead on so far, feel we have already strengthened Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,366 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 38 minutes ago, bluenoz said: And we haven't really spent any money yet on transfers as most of Colak's fee was covered by Itten's departure. 👍 Folk seem desperate for us to spend money or be seen to be spending accumulated from last season. I'd rather we got the right players in, and with the new 3 plus Goldson I reckon we have. We can't keep doing it for freebies or pennies as it restricts the options available. But it shouldn't be seen as a negative to take time to get the right player as cheaply as possible. Tough balancing act, I'm not surprised we're doing it as we are. Hopefully Aribo money gets reinvested and / or some of the CL money does when (🙏) we get through McEwan's Lager and bluenoz 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,895 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: 👍 Folk seem desperate for us to spend money or be seen to be spending accumulated from last season. I'd rather we got the right players in, and with the new 3 plus Goldson I reckon we have. We can't keep doing it for freebies or pennies as it restricts the options available. But it shouldn't be seen as a negative to take time to get the right player as cheaply as possible. Tough balancing act, I'm not surprised we're doing it as we are. Hopefully Aribo money gets reinvested and / or some of the CL money does when (🙏) we get through It's like someone spending all their wages in one hit forgetting it has to last the month and also forgetting that Mum, Dad and a credit card had previously been keeping your head above water. glasgow argyle and SeparateEntityMyArse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,366 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said: It's like someone spending all their wages in one hit forgetting it has to last the month and also forgetting that Mum, Dad and a credit card had previously been keeping your head above water. Folk see them spending millions (guaranteed CL money) on players and become envious and raging that we aren't. Impatience is a large part of it too. The fact that over 10m is spent on 2 of last season's players just to stand still seems to be overlooked due to the red mist. We're still at the precarious stage, especially with Kent and Alfie not extending and little interest in them. But as it stands we're doing well with the players brought in for the money spent imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,405 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 53 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Folk see them spending millions (guaranteed CL money) on players and become envious and raging that we aren't. Impatience is a large part of it too. The fact that over 10m is spent on 2 of last season's players just to stand still seems to be overlooked due to the red mist. We're still at the precarious stage, especially with Kent and Alfie not extending and little interest in them. But as it stands we're doing well with the players brought in for the money spent imo. 2 players now proven in this league with two medals in their pockets… Rangers_no1, ForeverAndEver and The Godfather 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 3,070 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 On 04/07/2022 at 14:04, Rangers Da 1872 said: How do we replace players fans have put on a pedestal not seen at Ibrox for decades? Look at our strongest 11 McGregor, Tavernier, Bassey, Goldson, Souttar, Lundstram, Jack, Kamara, Aribo, Kent, Morelos. Arguably? Then you've got McLaughlin, Zukowski, Barisic, Helander, Katic, Arfield, Davis, Sands, Wright, Sakala and Hagi all in reserve. And another group after them with likes of McCann King Devine Lowry etc etc who all need minutes. Who are you replacing and improving? Perhaps our scouts can't find better players within our budget? We've signed enough squad fillers. We now need new players to replace those names above, I agree. But who. And at what cost? The squad is enormous. Baffling that we’ve decided to prioritise Davis, Arfield and McGregor. We have so much squad filler as it is. Lowry and McCann should have been able to step up and fill the bench role. If we can’t give them that shot when Davis is going to be 38 then when. Arguably none of those 3 should have been retained. Rangers Da 1872 and graeme_4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,366 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 38 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: 2 players now proven in this league with two medals in their pockets… Yup. 10m plus to keep 2 players who helped win them the league. No disputing that. But has it improved them or helped them stand still? They've spent 1/4 of their CL money this coming season to keep 2 of last seasons players. I'll take that. And fwiw I'm far from impressed with the boy CCV, let's see how he gets on against Alfie over a season. 😏 Rangers Da 1872 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,268 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Yup. 10m plus to keep 2 players who helped win them the league. No disputing that. But has it improved them or helped them stand still? They've spent 1/4 of their CL money this coming season to keep 2 of last seasons players. I'll take that. And fwiw I'm far from impressed with the boy CCV, let's see how he gets on against Alfie over a season. 😏 We spent £7 million on a loan signing that never even won the league or actually even looked as close to being as good as Jota was for them last season, nobody/barely nobody on here or within the support was saying that was us standing still. Rangers_no1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Da 1872 61 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 34 minutes ago, OrangeRab said: Baffling that we’ve decided to prioritise Davis, Arfield and McGregor. We have so much squad filler as it is. Lowry and McCann should have been able to step up and fill the bench role. If we can’t give them that shot when Davis is going to be 38 then when. Arguably none of those 3 should have been retained. Totally agree with you there Rab. When we are chasing a game or seeing it out and Gio looks to his bench he is going to go for Davis or Arfield ahead of Lowry or McCann. i also have a horrible feeling McGregor is going to be number 1 again. It's frustrating because i'm sure we all want to see the kids get more game time, Lowry especially as he is so exciting. The keeper situation is a concern for me though. Huge concern in fact. 3 signings this summer and still no RW. A position which 9 Rangers fans out of 10 would have said is the number 1 priority over the last 3 years! OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,973 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: We spent £7 million on a loan signing that never even won the league or actually even looked as close to being as good as Jota was for them last season, nobody/barely nobody on here or within the support was saying that was us standing still. I think it’s more hypocrisy but they’ve spent a lot of money to have the same squad as last year, that is true. OrangeRab and ForeverAndEver 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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