Popular Post Prso's headband 36,807 Posted September 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2022 We’ve been searching for a decent winger for 4 years, they signed Jota and Abada in the last year. Pretty much sums it up. Ross Wilson is the core problem. When their manager went in we laughed at him, but at least he got what he wanted, he got backed with players he knew and they made instant impacts. We’re hamstrung by a 5ft goblin who can’t identify a single attacking player to contribute. VladimirWeiss69, plymouthranger, gazz74 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,499 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, MARK92GERS said: Recruitment has been shite for a number of years now. But I think the scouting department is definitely an area that’s needing investment & a major overhaul if we’re to become a top level club. It’s clear we are majorly behind other teams & leagues at the minute in that sense. Given the millions we’ve pissed up a wall by the looks of it. I genuinely thought that when GvB and his management team came in they'd be bringing in some of the best emerging talent from Holland they way the fat Aussie did with Japanese players. Yet another example of us being let down in a recruitment sense. MARK92GERS, Ibrox_Nights, qwerty and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK92GERS 854 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 minute ago, The Beast said: I genuinely thought that when GvB and his management team came in they'd be bringing in some of the best emerging talent from Holland they way the fat Aussie did with Japanese players. Yet another example of us being let down in a recruitment sense. I genuinely thought the same it’s a real surprise we haven’t added any talent from the eredivisie. Given most of the management team have a lot of knowledge from that league. You get the sense most of these buys are Wilson signings. ZZed and Ibrox_Nights 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty 3,792 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 I've got Wilson Golf clubs and they are shite n aw Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco87 796 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, The Beast said: I genuinely thought that when GvB and his management team came in they'd be bringing in some of the best emerging talent from Holland they way the fat Aussie did with Japanese players. Yet another example of us being let down in a recruitment sense. That was never really going to happen with the DofF model we run, where the Director has the main say in the transfers so if the manager gets the transfers all wrong and doesn’t work out the next man in isn’t having to deal with the previous manager’s squad. I think we have run it on a horrendously skewed basis though. As you said our management team is all Dutch, with a very good knowledge of that league and are also very well respected / legendary names in Dutch football. To not use that knowledge and their connections is just scandalous. It also doesn’t work when the DofF can’t identify that the 433 that the previous manager played is totally different to the 433 the new manager wants to play and requires a different type of player in key positions and then won’t / can’t recruits players to fit the new system… The Beast 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaka 1,839 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 The worst decisions were to renew Goldson's contract and offer contracts to Davis, Arfield and McGregor when the squad needed a renewal. OrangeRab, Blue Viking, plymouthranger and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty 3,792 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Have we got Stevie fucking wonder scouting for us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,483 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 To be honest I don't think our coaching and style of play isnt getting the most out of the players we have. They probably looked decent when they was scouted playing elsewhere. We need to change something though as we are stuck with this squad so ifs up to the manager and coaching staff to get the best out the players. Need to admit it's not working domestically and change our style of play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 4,265 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Worst decision we made this summer was giving Goldson a new deal. He wasn’t great last season and made a lot of errors in the European run, which were masked by bad misses/McGregor saves. We’ve now given him a new deal on a higher wage, which he’s not going to justify. Barring the 55 season, he’s never had a good run of form for more than 3-4 months since he’s been here. beararse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 4,265 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Prso's headband said: We’ve been searching for a decent winger for 4 years, they signed Jota and Abada in the last year. Pretty much sums it up. Ross Wilson is the core problem. When their manager went in we laughed at him, but at least he got what he wanted, he got backed with players he knew and they made instant impacts. We’re hamstrung by a 5ft goblin who can’t identify a single attacking player to contribute. Let’s be honest, them winning the league last year was a colossal failure and should’ve seen someone like Wilson sacked. They had 7 senior outfield players FFS in July and we’d just went a season unbeaten. They have got their recruitment absolutely spot on for the past 3 windows and have a clear playing style. We’ve not had a decent transfer window since the start of the 55 season… Ibrox_Nights, Prso's headband and BlueAvenger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven33jackie 2,017 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 It's all variable, they tend to buy players for a specific job and play them in that position. They played Kyogo out of position against us last season and I don't think that's happened since. We started yesterday with Tillman and Kamara out of position and then changed it at halftime. Immediately the balance looked better but it was too late. GVB has also been very unlucky with injuries, look at Lawrence and Davies record in the Championship, both 35 plus per season on average, both out injured after a hand full of games. Helander and Roofe, both come back for pre season allegedly fit and pick up injuries before a ball is kicked. Soutar, well you just knew that he was going to be injured as soon as he signed. Ladytonbear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted September 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2022 We sign squad players and they sign starters. Colak is probably the only player in the last couple of seasons to come in and instantly nail down a place in our team and the reality is that’s because he was our only option for the start of the season and he’s managed to take the opportunity. Every other signing either takes ages to settle or can’t break into the team at all. Rangers_no1, BlueAvenger, OrangeRab and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 3,399 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Squad size: Rangers: Bloated and inability to clear names who clearly aren’t going to be starters. celtic: cleared out almost an entire team in 2 years: Brown, Ntcham, Boli, Bitton, Griffiths, Rogic, Julien, Arjeti, Barkas, Soro, Henderson etc Age/Athleticism: Rangers: offered new deals to Arfield, Davis and McGregor. Combined age 110. Mind boggling. celtic: sold Brown, Ntcham, Rogic, Bitton, Griffiths, Julien. All players who are too old or unable to play an aggressive press. Injuries: Rangers: signed or retained players with bad track records or little game time. Ramsay, Souttar, Helander, Jack, Hagi, Roofe, Davies. celtic: Signed players with injury free history (minus Mcarthy). And cleared off Rogic, Griffiths, Brown, Bitton, Julien. New signings: Rangers: Focused on signing from saturated markets eg English Championship. Failed to identify and target weak areas: GK, RW, Striker celtic: Identified best players in Japanese league available at discount. As well as Russian fire sale market. Used free agent market well with Hart and Siegrist Loan to buy Rangers: Did well with Tillman celtic: Jota and CCV. 1 year for little to no outlay. Then option to buy once player is proven first team quality. Manager Rangers: Identified how to progress in Europe but not domestically celtic: Developed all out aggressive, high intensity press system which Spl teams can’t deal with. Transfer policy developed around young, fit players. With plenty of attacking options up front billscott, GlasgowRangers1983, beararse and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 3,399 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, steven33jackie said: It's all variable, they tend to buy players for a specific job and play them in that position. They played Kyogo out of position against us last season and I don't think that's happened since. We started yesterday with Tillman and Kamara out of position and then changed it at halftime. Immediately the balance looked better but it was too late. GVB has also been very unlucky with injuries, look at Lawrence and Davies record in the Championship, both 35 plus per season on average, both out injured after a hand full of games. Helander and Roofe, both come back for pre season allegedly fit and pick up injuries before a ball is kicked. Soutar, well you just knew that he was going to be injured as soon as he signed. I agree the first part. Disagree the luck around injuries. We are signing and retaining higher risk players: Helander had 2 knee injuries before he came to us. Souttar had 8 periods out injured with hearts with Achilles and ankle related injuries. Including 3 ruptured Achilles. Davies has played 70 off games since 2015? That’s not much more than 10 a season. Roofe was sold by Leeds because he was injury prone. Then barely played for Anderlecht. Jack clearly has ongoing troubles Ofoborh - heart problem not picked up Hagi- Acl. Very often never recover from that Whilst celtic have made an effort to offload players like Rogic who aren’t reliable. And focused on young, injury free players who are all athletic and capable of playing a high press. Hagi and Jack would never get near an Ange squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rangers_no1 34,533 Posted September 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, OrangeRab said: Squad size: Rangers: Bloated and inability to clear names who clearly aren’t going to be starters. celtic: cleared out almost an entire team in 2 years: Brown, Ntcham, Boli, Bitton, Griffiths, Rogic, Julien, Arjeti, Barkas, Soro, Henderson etc The scum wanted to keep Brown, Bitton and Rogic! Henderson was a kid with little appearances whos contract ran out. Barkas, Soro and Ajeti are only out on loan Ntcham the guy valued at £8m, much did they get for him? Why are you ignoring Barkas, Ajeti, Johnstone, Scales, Urhoghide, Montgomery, Soro, Shaw, McCarthy, Mooy, Bain, Welsh, Ideguchi and Forrest are all still scum players who have no chance of being 'starters' ? In two years we have got rid of Katic, Simpson, Hastie, Jones, Itten, Firth, Middleton, Kelly, Barjonas, Edmundson, Stewart, Defoe, Bacuna and Barker. Iakona, LaudrupsPatrickBoots, theweebluenose and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 34,533 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, OrangeRab said: Whilst celtic have made an effort to offload players like Rogic who aren’t reliable. The scum wanted to keep him. Was McCarthy a young fit non injury prone signing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 3,399 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Rangers_no1 said: The scum wanted to keep him. Was McCarthy a young fit non injury prone signing? Wanted to keep him? No they didn’t. McCarthy was a bad signing for sure. The rest they’ve all got out on loan. Everyone on their bench yesterday was a new signing and/or a young player who has already proved they can play at first team level. Other than Morelos and maybe Yilmaz who we don’t know about (but isn’t deemed good enough to replace Barisic). We had nobody on the bench that I would imagine or be comfortable starting for us towards the end of the year. Sakala and Wright are mid table Spl quality. McGregor going to be 41. Arfield is past it. Jack injury prone Devine and King are just kids. Few years away Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladytonbear 395 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, steven33jackie said: It's all variable, they tend to buy players for a specific job and play them in that position. They played Kyogo out of position against us last season and I don't think that's happened since. We started yesterday with Tillman and Kamara out of position and then changed it at halftime. Immediately the balance looked better but it was too late. GVB has also been very unlucky with injuries, look at Lawrence and Davies record in the Championship, both 35 plus per season on average, both out injured after a hand full of games. Helander and Roofe, both come back for pre season allegedly fit and pick up injuries before a ball is kicked. Soutar, well you just knew that he was going to be injured as soon as he signed. I think the fat Aussie has established a style of play and has been able to recruit players who suit that. I am honestly not sure if Gio has a clear style, and it appears he is taking what he gets in terms of signings and tries to make them fit. BlueAvenger, OrangeRab, beararse and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,756 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Our recruitment has been pish OrangeRab and ZZed 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 34,533 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, OrangeRab said: Wanted to keep him? No they didn’t. They 100% did. Direct quote from their manager regarding Bitton and Rogic. They have certainly made such a tremendous contribution to Celtic over such a long and successful period for the club and I understand that in their minds the time is right to move on Please stop making things up to hype them up fs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Rangers_no1 said: They 100% did. Direct quote from their manager regarding Bitton and Rogic. They have certainly made such a tremendous contribution to celtic over such a long and successful period for the club and I understand that in their minds the time is right to move on Please stop making things up to hype them up fs What bit says we wanted to keep them ? SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 34,533 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Just now, sassaaaa said: What bit says we wanted to keep them ? 3 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: understand that in their minds the time is right to move on That clearly states the players wanted to leave.. I could post the further comments he made about how important they were last season, but fuck posting him praising both. Its not even a debate they wanted to keep Rogic. It's factual. sassaaaa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,399 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Rangers_no1 said: That clearly states the players wanted to leave.. I could post the further comments he made about how important they were last season, but fuck posting him praising both. Its not even a debate they wanted to keep Rogic. It's factual. Nope, I can't see it in the bit you quoted, or the fuller article, either. Youre saying its factual, and telling someone to stop making things up when your quotes clearly evidences nothing youre alleging. Baffling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 34,533 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Posters on this site are actually embarrassing at times. Take one poster as gospel that we had the chance to sign Jota. Yet clear direct quotes proving players decided to leave, evidence is disregarded. Deary me and It's not rent free either apparently.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,399 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Posters on this site are actually embarrassing at times. Take one poster as gospel that we had the chance to sign Jota. Yet clear direct quotes proving players decided to leave, evidence is disregarded. Deary me and It's not rent free either apparently.. 🤣🤣🤣 Any chance you could point out the bit from your quote that demonstrates the scum wanted to keep him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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