KeyserSoze 15,293 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Hagi and Wright come on at 89mins Why? what exactly are we expecting anyone to do on the 90th minute. Turns out Wright (iirc) never actually kicked the ball ffs. here’s what it does - nothing. He used five subs - the first three were just about “like for like “ only the second two were to change our shape/tactics. So why wait so long to change tactics. Just because we can play 5 subs doesn’t mean we have to. bizarre Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gascoigne's Flute 332 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Smacked a bit of desperation to try & nick a goal with the subs he used. He should have changed his tactics instead. graeme_4 and Albion 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,767 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Dessers was done after about 60 minutes. Ridiculous he made it too 88 minutes. They should of been on after 80 minutes at the latesr. We were clearly struggling to break them down and could of done with Wrights directness and Hagis invention. born a blue nose and Bad Robot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 I don’t think even Beale knows why he makes the subs he does. It’s almost always the standard 65th minute change for the first one and then the rest will get the dying minutes. Zero imagination behind it. graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 21,706 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Taken off our strikers for midfielders when we should've been chasing another goal, why? Just why? I don't understand his thinking at all. ForeverAndEver and Rowley Birkin 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Jack and Dessers were blowing out their arse after 60/65 minutes and should have been subbed. We were all over the place after the subs. Gman36 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,130 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 40 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Hagi and Wright come on at 89mins Why? what exactly are we expecting anyone to do on the 90th minute. Turns out Wright (iirc) never actually kicked the ball ffs. here’s what it does - nothing. He used five subs - the first three were just about “like for like “ only the second two were to change our shape/tactics. So why wait so long to change tactics. Just because we can play 5 subs doesn’t mean we have to. bizarre Probably got some of them an appearance fee. Keep them sweet... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,293 Posted August 10, 2023 Author Share Posted August 10, 2023 Professional athletes should be able to run about for 90mins. So subs are tactical, someone’s on a yellow and acting like a balloon or for injury (and yes sometimes when a player is gubbed because he’s gave his all) Beale changed half his outfield team last night. HALF ffs Keeping on his defence and Cantwell. Not only change half your outfield team - but do it over half an hour, regularly disrupting any flow, breaking up patterns and making things look completely all over the fucking place as the new players find their way. Bringing on Wright and Hagi (bizarrely on 89mins lol) was defo tactical so why did Wright not touch the ball? Was there instructions to now stretch the width of the game? He’s annoying as fuck with this. People pleaser Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 15,647 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Professional athletes should be able to run about for 90mins. So subs are tactical, someone’s on a yellow and acting like a balloon or for injury (and yes sometimes when a player is gubbed because he’s gave his all) Beale changed half his outfield team last night. HALF ffs Keeping on his defence and Cantwell. Not only change half your outfield team - but do it over half an hour, regularly disrupting any flow, breaking up patterns and making things look completely all over the fucking place as the new players find their way. Bringing on Wright and Hagi (bizarrely on 89mins lol) was defo tactical so why did Wright not touch the ball? Was there instructions to now stretch the width of the game? He’s annoying as fuck with this. People pleaser I don’t want any of our players to ‘run about for 90 mins’. If any of them did, they’d be fucked for when they had to make that last gasp sprint back or burst into the box right at the end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 45,330 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Still had 10 minutes to play on the 89th minute. ianferguson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 because the manager is a dud Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,345 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Professional athletes should be able to run about for 90mins. So subs are tactical, someone’s on a yellow and acting like a balloon or for injury (and yes sometimes when a player is gubbed because he’s gave his all) Beale changed half his outfield team last night. HALF ffs Keeping on his defence and Cantwell. Not only change half your outfield team - but do it over half an hour, regularly disrupting any flow, breaking up patterns and making things look completely all over the fucking place as the new players find their way. Bringing on Wright and Hagi (bizarrely on 89mins lol) was defo tactical so why did Wright not touch the ball? Was there instructions to now stretch the width of the game? He’s annoying as fuck with this. People pleaser I'm sure they can, but if you have a bunch of athletes, some of them having ran about for 70 minutes and some that have only run about for 1 minute, the latter are more likely to have an extra bit of physical performance and mental sharpness in the tank. Jamie0202 and GA1972 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,434 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Professional athletes should be able to run about for 90mins. So subs are tactical, someone’s on a yellow and acting like a balloon or for injury (and yes sometimes when a player is gubbed because he’s gave his all) Beale changed half his outfield team last night. HALF ffs Keeping on his defence and Cantwell. Not only change half your outfield team - but do it over half an hour, regularly disrupting any flow, breaking up patterns and making things look completely all over the fucking place as the new players find their way. Bringing on Wright and Hagi (bizarrely on 89mins lol) was defo tactical so why did Wright not touch the ball? Was there instructions to now stretch the width of the game? He’s annoying as fuck with this. People pleaser His sub choices are regularly baffling. But are you suggesting he shouldn't use the 5 subs available? Or he shouldn't use 5 outfield ones, HALF ffs his outfield players as you say? Were any players blowing out their arses - should he have left them on because they should be able to last 90 minutes? If last night progressed as it did and he made less subs would that have had any impact other than a "why not make use of all our subs" thread? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Still had 10 minutes to play on the 89th minute. 7 to be accurate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 45,330 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Bad Robot said: 7 to be accurate Meh. Still time to affect a game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Just now, esquire8 said: Meh. Still time to affect a game. not really if you’re being honest as they were far too late KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,293 Posted August 10, 2023 Author Share Posted August 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Still had 10 minutes to play on the 89th minute. We had +6 at the time of substitutions Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,293 Posted August 10, 2023 Author Share Posted August 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: His sub choices are regularly baffling. But are you suggesting he shouldn't use the 5 subs available? Or he shouldn't use 5 outfield ones, HALF ffs his outfield players as you say? Were any players blowing out their arses - should he have left them on because they should be able to last 90 minutes? If last night progressed as it did and he made less subs would that have had any impact other than a "why not make use of all our subs" thread? I’m suggesting making 5 subs in half and hour is not good for keeping our rhythm. It was clearly visible we lost all cohesion in the last part of the game. Sima and Wright didn’t need to play. Only Hagi was a tactical change graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart1994 4,537 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 His subs have been very strange at times since he came back, nothing new. GA1972 and BlueAvenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,434 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, KeyserSoze said: I’m suggesting making 5 subs in half and hour is not good for keeping our rhythm. It was clearly visible we lost all cohesion in the last part of the game. Sima and Wright didn’t need to play. Only Hagi was a tactical change I'd prefer subs made at half time if it's not working ie Saturday. Last night not so needed then. I have no issue with him substituting half his outfield team, as you appear to, as they're there for a reason. He does need to do it with more purpose and reason. Swapping 5 at once would be equally damaging but changing 5 players in the 2nd half isn't an issue for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 35,448 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I thought our bench was particularly weak forward wise . Thought we were screaming out for Roofe to come on . KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Subs have always been another one of his weaknesses that gets you thinking what's he trying to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco87 796 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I have no issue with changing 5 players, it is purely the timing of it and seeming lack of joined up thinking as to what impact the subs were meant to have. Said in another thread that nothing was coming off for Lammers but he was still finding spaces centrally, ideal for Hagi to come on for 30 minutes and see if he can use the ball better in those spaces. When they went down to 10 they sacrificed defending wide and went narrow, we can debate the fact that he is the only player we have capable and we have tried to sell him but if we are having him on the bench Wright should have been on soon after the red card and told to stay wide and stretch the field. Instead both came on at 88th minute which is a tall ask to then have any real impact. Fred H Crawford and SeparateEntityMyArse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superallysbears 8,219 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Still to see the manager utilise substitutions with a bit of nouce behind them, just looks regimented with no reasoning behind it. rossco87, Bad Robot and BlueAvenger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloUSAGers 1,439 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 If Hagi is going to stay at Rangers, a game like last night is exactly when they need to use him. Should have been brought on right after the red card. He is capable of seeing, and making, the correct pass against the nine man block, and he’s the only guy at Rangers other than Lundstram who can consistently hit a ball from outside of the box on target. 32Blue, bluenoz and plymouthranger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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