jamess 3,435 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 4 hours ago, LochendBilly said: Leaving the baggage aside, I'd have Martindale over Beale any day of the week. Some straight talking and no passengers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,295 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Martindale We can’t have a guy who severed prison time for dealing coke as our manager fs. CR3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrLaudrup 4,684 Posted September 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2023 11 hours ago, Somemightsay7 said: I think a lot of people seem to think replacing Gio with Beale was cheap. Getting rid of Gio and his staff cost about £3.5m and bringing in Beale would have been another £2m+. He had just signed a 3 year contract. What should we be spending to get a manager in? £5m? £10m? We have been brought up on the best and now we are discussing cheap options. It is not the way. We can't encourage this mediocrity any longer or it will never stop. We need to appoint a proper manager and back them. Gio had won things as a manager, had a reasonable reputation, was not backed yet did far more with the club than Beale. Things may have gone differently if he had the money Beale had. Our manager is basically a glorified coach we allowed to manage us because he whored himself out to his mates on the board. We are a big club with European football and need to stop selling ourselves short. We should be looking at proper managers with proven records of either winning trophies or playing proper football. I don't care if we are a stepping stone. If that means we have been successful and get good compensation i'd be delighted. I'd much rather we got millions to lose our manager than pay out yet more compensation for another failed experimental appointment. BlueKnight87, LochendBilly, Colin Traive and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 12 hours ago, RossS1873 said: I don't think Hagi will be looking for our job after we forced his son out I dont think we should be looking at Hagi anyway ffs, its got disaster written all over it. Next up, Rino Gattuso. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,699 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Cheap options none we need a proper manager to take on him across the city. It's going to cost a good few quid. Someones gonna need to dig deap. DrLaudrup and plymouthranger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,454 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 hour ago, KingKirk said: Cheap options none we need a proper manager to take on him across the city. It's going to cost a good few quid. Someones gonna need to dig deap. We all had a wee chat earlier this afternoon and decided it would be you who is gonna dig deep. Cheers KK, you FF legend you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,159 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 16 hours ago, plymouthranger said: When Beale inevitably gets sacked, be it this month or sometime in the next 3-4 months after we drift further behind in the league, we need to stop penny pinching on managers. For too long, we’ve hired managers because they’re out of work, unproven, coming out of the wilderness in some backwater, but most of all because they’re cheap. We spend so much money on transfer fees on mediocre talent, because we don’t have a clue how to develop existing talent or a clear plan on how we’re going to break down sides, which is 99% of our domestic game. Stop penny pinching on managerial hires and let’s attract a better quality of manager. Accept it may mean a slight reduction on the transfer budgets, but we’re not spending that well regardless. Get a decent DOF in who can make sure we are bringing in the best talent from youth academy level up to first team, allow the manager to focus on improving what we have and making us a domestic force again. Well said. plymouthranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,675 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 11 hours ago, King Rager said: 10 times the manager. I don't want him but he'd be a massive upgrade on Beale. There’s no way McInnes should be our manager, but he has bags more experience and comparative success than Beale. Think how many times we dropped points or went out of cups to the sheep under Gerrard, Gio and Beale. Must be half a dozen times at least. King Jela 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncn 247 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Who was braga manager when we beat them the first time? I remember reading good things about him at the time unsure how he's progressed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,888 Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Duncn said: Who was braga manager when we beat them the first time? I remember reading good things about him at the time unsure how he's progressed Think he’s at sporting Lisbon these days? Ruben Amorin, they paid about €10million for him for Braga so a bit beyond our price bracket! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracle 7,834 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Kevin Muscat being touted by the red tops this morning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,611 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 2 hours ago, graeme_4 said: There’s no way McInnes should be our manager, but he has bags more experience and comparative success than Beale. Think how many times we dropped points or went out of cups to the sheep under Gerrard, Gio and Beale. Must be half a dozen times at least. Gio dropped 2 pts to the sheep without mccinnes being there, and won the only cup he could Just sayin..... SIRB_72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,888 Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 23 hours ago, Somemightsay7 said: I think a lot of people seem to think replacing Gio with Beale was cheap. Getting rid of Gio and his staff cost about £3.5m and bringing in Beale would have been another £2m+. He had just signed a 3 year contract. What should we be spending to get a manager in? £5m? £10m? I see your point, but I’d argue that changing Gio for someone with a worse pedigree (who hadn’t exactly been successful domestically the first time around over the course), was money down the drain. Because we penny pinched and went to back to “the brains behind 55” *cringe*, we’ve spent the guts of £5million on downgrading a manager and will need to pay out even more to sack Beale and co when the time comes. Club needs to be decisive and stop doing managerial hires on the cheap. Hire an experienced coach with a clear attacking philosophy who has managed in multiple countries like a Favre (or similar). We could’ve attracted the likes of him or Petr Bosz when we sacked Gio and it would’ve cost us the same as hiring then firing Beale and co, plus we’d be in a much stronger place than we are now. bornabear, Sunglasses Ron, DrLaudrup and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,956 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 12 hours ago, SPWF said: Martindale We can’t have a guy who severed prison time for dealing coke as our manager fs. Would do a roaring trade around Ibrox on match days tbh 👀 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,218 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: Would do a roaring trade around Ibrox on match days tbh 👀 50% to the transfer kitty and I’m all for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerTimeDavie 123 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Still firmly for Alameyda but failing that will settle for Glasner, Foda, Henn or Petev. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,456 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Welcome back to Ibrox ALEXANDER MCLEISH Jimfanciesthedude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,675 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Gio dropped 2 pts to the sheep without mccinnes being there, and won the only cup he could Just sayin..... Sorry Gio. All blends into one! Jimfanciesthedude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,611 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 hour ago, plymouthranger said: I see your point, but I’d argue that changing Gio for someone with a worse pedigree (who hadn’t exactly been successful domestically the first time around over the course), was money down the drain. Because we penny pinched and went to back to “the brains behind 55” *cringe*, we’ve spent the guts of £5million on downgrading a manager and will need to pay out even more to sack Beale and co when the time comes. Club needs to be decisive and stop doing managerial hires on the cheap. Hire an experienced coach with a clear attacking philosophy who has managed in multiple countries like a Favre (or similar). We could’ve attracted the likes of him or Petr Bosz when we sacked Gio and it would’ve cost us the same as hiring then firing Beale and co, plus we’d be in a much stronger place than we are now. Beale was probably the only one willing to come mid season and the board made a cunt of it as usual Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,888 Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Beale was probably the only one willing to come mid season and the board made a cunt of it as usual Beale was the only manager in world football who fancied managing a side who’d been in a European final 6 months previous and had a chance of silverware that season and could mould a squad to be their own in the summer? Really? graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,611 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, plymouthranger said: Beale was the only manager in world football who fancied managing a side who’d been in a European final 6 months previous and had a chance of silverware that season and could mould a squad to be their own in the summer? Really? Or look at it this way, a team with barely any assets, few of them out of contract that summer, out of the league, out of europe and against a runaway juggernaut of a tarrier team Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 4,003 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Gio dropped 2 pts to the sheep without mccinnes being there, and won the only cup he could Just sayin..... I recall that draw being with an injury list longer than my arm and Aribo, our most in form player, also away to Afcon. Jimfanciesthedude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,611 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 minute ago, SIRB_72 said: I recall that draw being with an injury list longer than my arm and Aribo, our most in form player, also away to Afcon. Ssshhhh, no praise for a euro final making manager allowed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 4,003 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Ssshhhh, no praise for a euro final making manager allowed Horseshoe > not a clue Jimfanciesthedude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,218 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 2 hours ago, SIRB_72 said: Horseshoe > not a clue Anything Else > Horseshoe > Not a Clue SIRB_72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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