ayro 3,539 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Strange game from Dessers today, thought he did well 1st half and involved in both goals. 2nd half didn’t hold up as well, benefit of the doubt on the offside goals as they were very tight but he does get caught offside too much generally and gives away too many cheap fouls rather than using his own physical presence to win fouls. Albion 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,937 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, CR3 said: We won’t win the league on what should have beens. Dessers didn’t score a goal that counted and Shankland got two. I guess that’s maybe the difference, isn’t it. @beararse Not really, no. Shankland has 2 assists to his name this season. Dessers has had 2 in the last 2 games. By all means keep prattling on about Shankland but he ain’t the answer. Im not saying Dessers is, Im just saying Shankland’s not. The Specky Forum Organiser, TamCoopz, .Williamson. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR3 12,880 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, beararse said: Not really, no. Shankland has 2 assists to his name this season. Dessers has had 2 in the last 2 games. By all means keep prattling on about Shankland but he ain’t the answer. Im not saying Dessers is, Im just saying Shankland’s not. Why would I care about a striker assisting instead of actually scoring? wild. TamCoopz and The Godfather 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Godfather 75,868 Posted December 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, beararse said: Not really, no. Shankland has 2 assists to his name this season. Dessers has had 2 in the last 2 games. By all means keep prattling on about Shankland but he ain’t the answer. Im not saying Dessers is, Im just saying Shankland’s not. Shankland is the best striker in the league currently. Of course he'd be the answer for us right now. Mental to suggest he wouldn't be SPWF, WilliamMunny, J-Maestro and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 2,290 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 If he'd came through the youth ranks or was a cheap 3rd choice that, due to circumstances, found himself as a starter then you'd be OK(ish) with him. He cost us roughly 4m and will be lapping up 20k+ a week. Get him too fuck asap when at his age he still has some sort of value. JCDBigBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,937 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 49 minutes ago, CR3 said: Why would I care about a striker assisting instead of actually scoring? wild. Why would you not? You not wanting goals regardless of where they come from? Stupid thing to say Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,588 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Still absolutely shite Seems to have about 10 minutes a game when he appears to improve and then reverts back to being completely dreadful JCDBigBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,937 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 45 minutes ago, The Godfather said: Shankland is the best striker in the league currently. Of course he'd be the answer for us right now. Mental to suggest he wouldn't be He’s not the best. Away and read their stats. He’s on a par with Dessers in terms of contributing to his teams goal tally when assessed on their time on the pitch this season. It’s mental that folk can’t work it out for themselves and need led by the hand. How can one be shite and the other the best in the league when they have an identical goal contribution per time. Seems to me you’re blinded by a nice and shinny ‘goals scored’ tally and don’t give a minutes thought to actual time on pitch, assists etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,299 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Definitely can’t read the offside thing. Too many times tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR3 12,880 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 41 minutes ago, beararse said: Why would you not? You not wanting goals regardless of where they come from? You’ve pulled assists out of thin air, when it wasn’t the issue or what we’re talking about. The issue is goal return or in comparison to shankland. He’s a striker. His job is to score goals. The wingers and number 10 I look to more for assists and contributions. TamCoopz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 14,009 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Would be happy with him if he wasn’t our first choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,536 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 As I said in match thread, ‘Clint’…the good the bad and the ugly, had it all today. But difference is he’s contributing now, wasn’t before. beararse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 75,868 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 hours ago, beararse said: He’s not the best. Away and read their stats. He’s on a par with Dessers in terms of contributing to his teams goal tally when assessed on their time on the pitch this season. It’s mental that folk can’t work it out for themselves and need led by the hand. How can one be shite and the other the best in the league when they have an identical goal contribution per time. Seems to me you’re blinded by a nice and shinny ‘goals scored’ tally and don’t give a minutes thought to actual time on pitch, assists etc. Yes he is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA1972 10,396 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Strangely composed one on one with the keeper when everything else about his game is a total lottery graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 20,011 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 3 hours ago, beararse said: He’s not the best. Away and read their stats. He’s on a par with Dessers in terms of contributing to his teams goal tally when assessed on their time on the pitch this season. It’s mental that folk can’t work it out for themselves and need led by the hand. How can one be shite and the other the best in the league when they have an identical goal contribution per time. Seems to me you’re blinded by a nice and shinny ‘goals scored’ tally and don’t give a minutes thought to actual time on pitch, assists etc. Ban yourself from this thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post born a blue nose 92,919 Posted December 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2023 Gabriel statistuta throwing the dafties about this thread for fun BlueSuedeSambas, beararse, Roy Hobbs and 6 others 1 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,937 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 On 24/12/2023 at 19:39, CR3 said: You’ve pulled assists out of thin air, when it wasn’t the issue or what we’re talking about. The issue is goal return or in comparison to shankland. He’s a striker. His job is to score goals. The wingers and number 10 I look to more for assists and contributions. OK, lets ignore his assists. Dressers is statistically more accurate (70.95%) by 45% (Shankland is 48.78%), which you’ll not be interested anyway, and they have a near identical conversion rates (Dessers 19.4% v’s Shankland (19.5%) So if Dessers has a better conversion rate yet has scored less it points to Rangers playing teams who low block, then what’s to say Shankland will do better in that scenario? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,949 Posted December 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, beararse said: OK, lets ignore his assists. Dressers is statistically more accurate (70.95%) by 45% (Shankland is 48.78%), which you’ll not be interested in that anyway, and they gave a near identical conversion rate (Dessers 19.4% v’s Shankland (19.5%) So if Dessers has a better conversion rate yet has scored less it points to Rangers playing teams who low block, then what’s to say Shankland will do better in that scenario? Nate let’s be honest at 3 million shankland is a disgusting waste a funds if we get him At half that it’s great value but he’s not the answer at current values Ontario Bear, STEPPS BOY, plymouthranger and 9 others 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,937 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, The Godfather said: Yes he is. Explain how? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,937 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, RFC55 said: Nate let’s be honest at 3 million shankland is a disgusting waste a funds if we get him At half that it’s great value but he’s not the answer at current values Yep. Said that earlier on here. if he’s available 1-1.5m then OK but paying 3-4m for a guy to replace a ‘dud’ who cost 4m when pro rata both are on a par in terms of their goal contributions is lunacy. Rangers_no1, One Jock Wallace, 6superbarry6 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 15,086 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, beararse said: Yep. Said that earlier on here. if he’s available 1-1.5m then OK but paying 3-4m for a guy to replace a ‘dud’ who cost 4m when pro rata both are on a par in terms of their goal contributions is lunacy. Managerial failure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Macklin 622 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 I've just fkn given up trying to make sense of Dessers man. That goal away to Betis was filthier than a miner's boot, and but for two close offside calls today we would have put away two very tidy finishes. Most of the time though he looks like he's actively trying not to score. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goaaaal 998 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Unbelievable how he can be competent in execution and delivery to missing absolute sitters to fresh air kicks akin to a rabbit in the headlights. If perseverance is the answer then maybe Santa has the key Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
demise 3,718 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 When we win the treble and theres nothing to complain about, we come back to this thread and talk about Dessers and his offside troubles. Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belshaft 348 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 14 hours ago, demise said: When we win the treble and theres nothing to complain about, we come back to this thread and talk about Dessers and his offside troubles. I am onside with this👏 demise and Bad Robot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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