Roy Hobbs 2,281 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, the old guard said: Seriously, we would never have got that tbh I don't disagree but apparently that's the rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,281 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Redmond7 said: Sure - but what if the penalty is awarded? The rules for var intervening in offside only apply to goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVRanger 2,752 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Imagine the outcry if the penalty incident happened at the other end of the pitch? There would be talk of Anti- Cathlolic conpiracies, demands for non- Scottish officials, demands for the release of audio tape, threats to life, windows panned, questions by MSP's etc. etc. Meanwhile we will just accept yet another shafting by officials. Fair play to sellick - they get their agenda out there and it works every time. GazTops 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davy Vandenbroucke 26,429 Posted December 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2023 Surprisingly not that downbeat, definitely doesn’t feel the same as the defeats under Gio and Beale - think the only real difference was the finishing and general play upfront of each team, as well as some horrendous officiating. Feels like when we lost 2-1 in 2019 under Gerrard, or when they lost 1-0 in Postecoglou’s first OF. Despite the result you get a sense that the tide is turning. SPWF, superallysbears, Roy Hobbs and 10 others 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmond7 1,202 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Roy Hobbs said: The rules for var intervening in offside only apply to goals. Im still confused - remember I'm an old geezer. So, lets say the referee awards the pen.. then what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,281 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Just now, Redmond7 said: Im still confused - remember I'm an old geezer. So, lets say the referee awards the pen.. then what? Hopefully we score Redmond7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 12,123 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 If it had been ruled offside, it'd have been pulled back for a taig free kick. They waved it off and gave a goal kick, resuming play. That is wrong. VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS and SeparateEntityMyArse 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,915 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 hours ago, BigBearButt said: Funnily enough Id have put lammers on to draw fouls around the box. He is generally shite but he has quick feet and they had a few players on yellows. Not with these officials he wouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SeparateEntityMyArse 54,282 Posted December 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2023 Just now, Loyal72 said: If it had been ruled offside, it'd have been pulled back for a taig free kick. They waved it off and gave a goal kick, resuming play. That is wrong. 👍 The offside was discovered well after the game had moved on and is now being highlighted as some sort of get out/ justification for the decision by Collum. Which is bollocks and needs called out as such every time its used J-Maestro, geneva_ger, HG5 and 7 others 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaaRFC 4,863 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I’m pretty sure if VAR had deemed it a pen, they would have went back and seen the offside and then gave that as the decision. So we were never gna get a pen. The issue is it appears VAR looked at that handball and didn’t deem it an offence Jelavic191 and HG5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,604 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 MacFarlane just came out and said those that have heard the audio already have said Collum didn't think the handball warranted an on field review and never mentioned offside at all. They won't release the audio because it buries Gollum. HG5, graeme_4, J-Maestro and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,281 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Just now, esquire8 said: MacFarlane just came out and said those that have heard the audio already have said Collum didn't think the handball warranted an on field review and never mentioned offside at all. They won't release the audio because it buries Gollum. The commentators have full access to VAR and as much as said that. There was no mention of offside. graeme_4 and HG5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,494 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 There was Not a fuckin hope of us getting a penalty at that cesspit. Ivybank 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,635 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Loyal72 said: If it had been ruled offside, it'd have been pulled back for a taig free kick. They waved it off and gave a goal kick, resuming play. That is wrong. They showed that offside to appease the vermin it had no fucking relevance whatsoever Loyal72 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,483 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I'm still pissed off, but in terms of the 'penalty', I'm slightly less pissed off remembering Goldsons handball at Ibrox v's them. Different circumstances obviously, he had no reaction time...but in today's VAR mad climate, I think that would have been given. Baws, I am still bitter as fuck actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranRfc 41 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Granted today isn't the end of the league. But how people aren't raging with our performance has shocked me. Same old mistakes against them time and time again. Standing off players allowing them space to shoot. Then our own striker is through 1 v 1 and can't even get a shot off. Pitiful players replacing those before them. Hopefully Clement can get rid of a few of them this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,660 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: 👍 The offside was discovered well after the game had moved on and is now being highlighted as some sort of get out/ justification for the decision by Collum. Which is bollocks and needs called out as such every time its used This. Total cover up. Its what Catholics do best. geneva_ger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 23,205 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ivybank said: They showed that offside to appease the vermin it had no fucking relevance whatsoever I can imagine the frantic searching in the VAR room for something, anything that they can cling on to like a drowning man to excuse the corrupt decision. The scum propaganda has worked brilliantly although, with Walsh, Collum and Clancy involved, the odds were always against us. Ivybank 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron 2,545 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Clement rightly calling out the penalty decision not by saying of course directly that we were cheated but he was ‘curious’ why it wasn’t given. Then half an hour later Collum reviews it to say it was offside. The whole thing stinks!! geneva_ger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Bear 72 363 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, LegendofCoop said: I'm still pissed off, but in terms of the 'penalty', I'm slightly less pissed off remembering Goldsons handball at Ibrox v's them. Different circumstances obviously, he had no reaction time...but in today's VAR mad climate, I think that would have been given. Baws, I am still bitter as fuck actually. I'm not so sure it would. Goldson brought his hands up to protect his face and he didn't make his body any bigger. So think even with VAR that one would not have been given as a pen. Roy Hobbs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,604 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Sunglasses Ron said: Clement rightly calling out the penalty decision not by saying of course directly that we were cheated but he was ‘curious’ why it wasn’t given. Then half an hour later Collum reviews it to say it was offside. The whole thing stinks!! Collum reviewed fuck all. He seen Sky show the offside and went with that a minute later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,604 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, Bronzy said: Surprisingly not that downbeat, definitely doesn’t feel the same as the defeats under Gio and Beale - think the only real difference was the finishing and general play upfront of each team, as well as some horrendous officiating. Feels like when we lost 2-1 in 2019 under Gerrard, or when they lost 1-0 in Postecoglou’s first OF. Despite the result you get a sense that the tide is turning. Yup. The manager ain't the issue today. The squad is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,635 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Has anybody ever in the history of var showed an offside decision where a goal wasn’t scored? No ,only in fenian land JCDBigBear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,483 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Loyal Bear 72 said: I'm not so sure it would. Goldson brought his hands up to protect his face and he didn't make his body any bigger. So think even with VAR that one would not have been given as a pen. Aw fuck, that's me back deep depression now, cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,915 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 hours ago, PromDeAnglais said: Don't see it. If VAR had told Clancy to go to the monitor, they would have checked for offside as well. You are missing the point. The fact that ref and var did not see that as penalty is the issue. If they did then they would have said "off side free kick to ra sellick". The offside was a lucky get out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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