Rangers statement

[SeparateEntityMyArse 54,288]

7 minutes ago, RFC55 said:

To no give the corner is pretty clever really 

How so? So that he could say he didn't see the handball? It would have been cleaner for them to cheat by Walsh saying he saw the contact but didn't deem it a penalty, give a corner, and let Collum agree with that.

[King Jela 20,662]

Have to absolutely ruin father Collumn over this. 

Ruin the cheating fuck so bad that he's petrified to referee an amateur game. 

[esquire8 43,632]

Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

How so? So that he could say he didn't see the handball? It would have been cleaner for them to cheat by Walsh saying he saw the contact but didn't deem it a penalty, give a corner, and let Collum agree with that.

All Collum said was the handball did not warrant an on field decision. Collum can't change the decision of a goal kick to a corner.

[esquire8 43,632]

Got to wonder if getting Collum for this opens some genie in the bottle for the SFA that they wouldn't be able to control once its out.

[murzo 7,449]

14 minutes ago, RFC55 said:

To no give the corner is pretty clever really 

Gives Walsh an out but surely collum is fckd for not asking Walsh to look at potential handball?

[SeparateEntityMyArse 54,288]

1 minute ago, esquire8 said:

All Collum said was the handball did not warrant an on field decision. Collum can't change the decision of a goal kick to a corner.

No but the goal kick most likely means Walsh didn't see it. He thought it came off a Rangers player.

Collum saw and and decided he could justify it rather than make it a review for the clear and obvious error almost every commentator believes it to be.

[esquire8 43,632]

Just now, murzo said:

Gives Walsh an out but surely collum is fckd for asking Walsh to look at potential handball?

Collum is fucked for looking at that and saying there was no need for an on field decision. 

Clearest handball you will ever get in the game and he is attempting covering it up again by the "natural position" excuse after covering it up in the first place with the offside via Sky. 

He knows he's fucked.

[Bluekev 44,491]

22 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said:

Did the linesman flag for offside? I don’t know. 

Nope

[fuckthespl 2,511]

38 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Ironically, Crocker let the cat out the bag during the game yesterday.

I couldn't really hear the commentary at the time. What was it he said?

[esquire8 43,632]

2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

No but the goal kick most likely means Walsh didn't see it. He thought it came off a Rangers player.

Collum saw and and decided he could justify it rather than make it a review for the clear and obvious error almost every commentator believes it to be.

Yup. Walsh thought it came off a Rangers player. Collum gets a reply and says there's no handball. 

[Bluekev 44,491]

I’m pleased the club are going after the corrupt shower, it’s about time.

[esquire8 43,632]

[6superbarry6 14,245]

Nick Walsh, Willie Collum, Kevin Clancy, Don Robertson, Alan Mulvanney & Frank Connor, go after each and every single one of these corrupt tarrier bastards. 

[Inigo 32,675]

15 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

I read that as the first 4 bullet points refer to incidents where penalty kicks have been awarded by the onfield official, the final one relating to a penalty offence not having been awarded.

Our situation relates to offside involving a penalty not awarded which doesn't sit in any of those bullet points. Which ties in more I believe with Conroy who was talking about the handball being the consideration of var not the offside. And would explain why offside apparently wasn't considered at rhe incident as alleged by Crocker and Rangers in our statement.

Over and above all that though we still need to understand why Collum saw a handball Walsh apparently didn't and made his own alternative conclusion to what almost everyone considers to be a clear and obvious error by Walsh.

 

They go back sequentially to the offside if the handball is deemed an offense, and has therefore become a penalty incident. Bullet point 1 is applied.

Which is why it would never have become a penalty. Offside is only ever addressed after the handball is considered in an incident like that.

The offside wouldn't be considered if it's deemed not a handball and therefore not a penalty incident because offsides aren't assessed by VAR for non-serious incidents. In this case effectively a goal kick.

 

[STEPPS BOY 75,046]

4 minutes ago, fuckthespl said:

I couldn't really hear the commentary at the time. What was it he said?

When they showed the ‘offside’ at start of second half, Crocker said something like “it would have been good to have had that at the time” therefore that wasn’t reason for penalty not being given.

[6superbarry6 14,245]

We should be informing sky and the SFA that no tv cameras will be allowed inside Ibrox for the next old firm unless this is resolved. 

[kelvd1873 7,397]

If they have nothing to hide release the audio. Like a previous poster said they wouldn’t be slow to release the audio if it was something against us. 

[hawkfalcons 2,316]

Corrupt to the core 

[Loyal72 12,147]

Need to keep the pressure on. As someone said, Crocker let it slip there was no offside call at the time.

[RFCRobertson 11,792]

With so much focus week in week out on refs, then surely to fuck there is a urgent clean out required? They share a collective brain cell between them if youre lucky

[murzo 7,449]

1 minute ago, esquire8 said:

Collum is fucked for looking at that and saying there was no need for an on field decision. 

Clearest handball you will ever get in the game and he is attempting covering it up again by the "natural position" excuse after covering it up in the first place with the offside via Sky. 

He knows he's fucked.

I hope so and others then think twice about lacking neutrality.

[esquire8 43,632]

6 minutes ago, Inigo said:

They go back sequentially to the offside if the handball is deemed an offense, and has therefore become a penalty incident. Bullet point 1 is applied.

Which is why it would never have become a penalty. Offside is only ever addressed after the handball is considered.

The offside wouldn't be considered if it's deemed not a handball and therefore not a penalty incident because offsides aren't assessed by VAR for non-serious incidents. In this case effectively a goal kick.

 

So why did Collum release a VAR Offside image and graphic to Sky after they themselves had looked at the incident?

If there was no issue with the handball, which Collum is trying to say, then why is he giving Sky the offside graphic? 

He tried to cover up his fuck up with the offside then after the match covering it up with another excuse of the "natural position".

This is clearly incompetence and highly suspect and the real reason him and the SFA are flapping.

 

Add to this that the image Sky released of the offside call is very suspect in the least, from the angle given and the frame they took it from. 

[6superbarry6 14,245]

Don’t know why we are so quick to believe Sima was actually offside due a graphic knocked up half an hour later by the very tarrier bastard in question. 

[northern bear 2,901]

I still remember when Walter Smith called out a linesman and referred to his surname which was Murphy. 

[Inigo 32,675]

2 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

So why did Collum release a VAR Offside image and graphic to Sky after they themselves had looked at the incident?

If there was no issue with the handball, which Collum is trying to say, then why is he giving Sky the offside graphic? 

He tried to cover up his fuck up with the offside then after the match covering it up with another excuse of the "natural position".

This is clearly incompetence and highly suspect and the real reason him and the SFA are flapping.

No idea. That's kind of the issue. The issue isn't is getting a penalty, it's the weird behaviour that looks like some kind of cover up of a bad decision not to declare it a handball.