Tav's time is up.

[OrangeRab 3,382]

Didn’t learn anything we didn’t already know.

Legs done for the season.

If he can come back after pre season with his pace back then fine. He’s a good player when he can run. If not then pointless keeping him.

Don't trust our medical + sports science team to make a competent judgement on that though. 

Totally outdone on his captaincy today. McGregor all over the ref all game. Hart gets a goal disallowed with some “clever” theatrics.

If he stays he cannot be captain next year.

[EatDolphins 5,360]

Its time to shed the skin of failure. Do t care how many goals he's scored or in the hall of fame. Tav must never play for the club again. Add in Goldson, Lundtsrum and Barasic and that's a history of failures gone. I'd get rid of Cantwell and Ridvan as well. .build a new spine for a new era and we'll see a massive difference in the coming 2 seasons. 

[Bears r us 31,319]

I felt Tav looked lost at times today, certainly not a captain rallying his players.

I think he is a nice guy with an incredible record of goals and assists for us, but surely it would be best for him and the team for him to move on. 

[AberfeldyBlue 1,872]

Listened to a speech that Bomber gave in the Cooper suite today - total Battle fever in a sentence

 

He spoke with more genuine passion than I have ever heard Tav utter

 

Bin it and move on ffs

 

 

[superallysbears 8,190]

7 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

I felt Tav looked lost at times today, certainly not a captain rallying his players.

I think he is a nice guy with an incredible record of goals and assists for us, but surely it would be best for him and the team for him to move on. 

He's done in mentally with the captain's tag, had been all along imo, crucial spot kicks yes, but there's always been something missing with his leadership. 

[Bears r us 31,319]

1 minute ago, superallysbears said:

He's done in mentally with the captain's tag, had been all along imo, crucial spot kicks yes, but there's always been something missing with his leadership. 

I actually hoped Gerrard would appoint a new captain so it is not a new opinion from myself.

If he stays surely Phil will pick a new captain, but probably best if Tav left now and enjoyed just playing without the huge burden of being captain at a team like Rangers. 

[Negri's lovechild 15,385]

5 minutes ago, AberfeldyBlue said:

Listened to a speech that Bomber gave in the Cooper suite today - total Battle fever in a sentence

 

He spoke with more genuine passion than I have ever heard Tav utter

 

Bin it and move on ffs

 

 

Any number of the core of that team Bomber played in could have been captains. Gough, Ian Ferguson, Bomber, McCall, Robertson, all had the hearts of lions. 

We sadly lack that vocal leadership and passion these days. They had to give Bomber a paper bag to blow into to calm him down before Old Firm games ffs. 

I think we became too "nice", and we need to get a ruthless streak back in us.

[superallysbears 8,190]

4 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

I actually hoped Gerrard would appoint a new captain so it is not a new opinion from myself.

If he stays surely Phil will pick a new captain, but probably best if Tav left now and enjoyed just playing without the huge burden of being captain at a team like Rangers. 

If he stays and the manager goes with the same "leadership group" then I think the that group see off another manager before October, hopefully him and Goldson are away over the summer.

[Bears r us 31,319]

Just now, superallysbears said:

If he stays and the manager goes with the same "leadership group" then I think the that group see off another manager before October, hopefully him and Goldson are away over the summer.

I do hope Phil can see what they could do to him if they stay. We need someone to buy them though.

I would love the story about Gerrard coming in for them to be true. 🤞

[HG5 12,199]

2 hours ago, OrangeRab said:

Didn’t learn anything we didn’t already know.

Legs done for the season.

If he can come back after pre season with his pace back then fine. He’s a good player when he can run. If not then pointless keeping him.

Don't trust our medical + sports science team to make a competent judgement on that though. 

Totally outdone on his captaincy today. McGregor all over the ref all game. Hart gets a goal disallowed with some “clever” theatrics.

If he stays he cannot be captain next year.

Problem is, his season ended in March, to all intents & purposes.

In line with your ‘legs done’ remark (which I agree with totally), where does that leave us?

A good pre-season sounds ok, but what happens when he tails off in March again?

We’ve had a warning this season.

If he can’t roll back time, I don’t see anything better next season.

And your comparison with that other wee shite is spot on.

[Inigo 33,322]

He's done now, but I feel sorry for him.  He's a good player, but he's been expected to be what he's not. In the right Rangers team, used properly, he'd have won a lot. As it is he's been set up as a failed captain, and I think it couldnhave been better for him.

[Negri's lovechild 15,385]

1 hour ago, Inigo said:

He's done now, but I feel sorry for him.  He's a good player, but he's been expected to be what he's not. In the right Rangers team, used properly, he'd have won a lot. As it is he's been set up as a failed captain, and I think it couldnhave been better for him.

I think he could still be useful but played in a different way from the way he has played the last 9 years.

Less of the bombing forward and focus on defending and reading the game infront of him, let the guys infront of him take the attacking burden.

[scottyc06 6,927]

No even read the thread… but I hope I never see him in a Rangers top again! Absolute shitebag! 

[Hadron Collider 32,338]

25 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said:

I think he could still be useful but played in a different way from the way he has played the last 9 years.

Less of the bombing forward and focus on defending and reading the game infront of him, let the guys infront of him take the attacking burden.

He can’t defend mate. Never has been able to. 

[KeyserSoze 15,262]

His corners were excellent today but. 

[graeme_4 37,464]

Maeda has him on toast, lucky for him Balogun is quick on recovery.

Think that should be his last game. 

 

[CR1 5]

It got summed up in the first 10 mins of that game yesterday -  He misjudges the ball and Maeda gets in behind him, and that sets the tone for the game. From that point onwards Tav is fucking shitting himself, and if that's your captain, how is that meant to instil a winning mentality into your team mates. Sad to say, but his time is up. We need a proper leader. 

[crmpicco 150]

We might have to take a financial hit and move Tavernier on. I honestly can’t wait to see the back of this guy

[five stars 1,767]

4 minutes ago, crmpicco said:

We might have to take a financial hit and move Tavernier on. I honestly can’t wait to see the back of this guy

I doubt anybody would take him on the money he's on, outside of Saudi and maybe the states.

Same with Goldson. 

[five stars 1,767]

If we can't move him on then his role should be as a squad player.

With a new captain.

[Jimfanciesthedude 25,571]

4 hours ago, Negri's lovechild said:

I think he could still be useful but played in a different way from the way he has played the last 9 years.

Less of the bombing forward and focus on defending and reading the game infront of him, let the guys infront of him take the attacking burden.

Tav is not and never will be a decent defender, if he cant attack he's useless

[crazy bob swollenbaws 1,927]

6 hours ago, Bears r us said:

I actually hoped Gerrard would appoint a new captain so it is not a new opinion from myself.

If he stays surely Phil will pick a new captain, but probably best if Tav left now and enjoyed just playing without the huge burden of being captain at a team like Rangers. 

He stays=he gets Clement the sack.

[crazy bob swollenbaws 1,927]

4 hours ago, Negri's lovechild said:

I think he could still be useful but played in a different way from the way he has played the last 9 years.

Less of the bombing forward and focus on defending and reading the game infront of him, let the guys infront of him take the attacking burden.

Fuck that. He is either capable or not. He is not. Changing the game to suit one guy ffs. We already tried that years ago by playing him forward with a right back behind him. Get rid.

[HG5 12,199]

7 hours ago, Negri's lovechild said:

I think he could still be useful but played in a different way from the way he has played the last 9 years.

Less of the bombing forward and focus on defending and reading the game infront of him, let the guys infront of him take the attacking burden.

It looked like he tried that yesterday.

Maeda still escaped from him almost every time it was played up to him.

Albeit it seemed like a lot of the threat was reduced when Maeda didn’t have half a pitch to run into.

[Moody Blue Legend 63,373]

9 hours ago, Bears r us said:

not a captain rallying his players

Watched the Richard Gough Icons of Scottish Football just before yesterday’s game.  That’s a captain.  Not saying Tav wasn’t a good asset but lacked that authority aura for me.  Like my captains to have a fear factor.