Ryan Jack calls for Willie Collum to be demoted

[ZZed 4,510]

If Rangers are calling out poor refs then I am all for it, but we need full time refs and VAR. IF Willie Collum is getting it then cheating Beaton will be shitting himself.

[CoatbridgeBear 7,113]

How any cunt is saying that isn’t a foul is beyond parody, particularly with the fouls that he gave on Sunday that were softer than his boaby when he sees a minge. Bufty bastard.

[ForeverAndEver 71,955]

4 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said:

Makes us sound more taig like every day - it’s not the route our club should be going down. As Walter said you’ve got to be good enough to win despite poor referees and we were not good enough on the day. 

Wit you doing using taig? You a changed man, Pete?

[BLUEDIGNITY 33,685]

The wee failed dhurty bheast is a cheat, deal wae it, they've fair infiltrated themselves into just about every position of control in the land and are fucking us in every hole and there are still those in denial. 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 54,115]

1 hour ago, backup said:

Why would collum take the 4th officials view, when he was 50 yards away and collum was a couple of yards away, never edifying to see a manager clutching at straws when the evidence of our failure to compete is plain for all to see. 

It was difficult to see from one angle. Clear from another. Both could have got it right based on what they saw, but 4th official shouting foul got it right whereas collum didnt. Angle is as relevant as distance.

I'd suggest an official seeing that and seeing collum playing on is aware he's not seen it properly. And would be correct in that assertion plus their attempts to draw his attention to it.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 54,115]

8 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Wit you doing using taig? You a changed man, Pete?

If he thinks we shouldn't be doing something then by default it's automatically the right thing to do. 

[Sweetheart 8,458]

10 hours ago, .Williamson. said:

Force them into a strike

Bit of banter if nothing else 

I don't think that is the aim of SG or JR.

I think the SG's next step should be a meeting with John fleming of the referee's committee,  to tell him of his concern about the refereeing decisions in matches we play, and request that all our games in the Scottish leagues are refereed by a English ref, until the SFA install VAR and Goal line technology.

 

 

[backup 4,724]

5 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said:

It was difficult to see from one angle. Clear from another. Both could have got it right based on what they saw, but 4th official shouting foul got it right whereas collum didnt. Angle is as relevant as distance.

I'd suggest an official seeing that and seeing collum playing on is aware he's not seen it properly. And would be correct in that assertion plus their attempts to draw his attention to it.

collum saw it he took no action.

 

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[Robmc1 4,741]

11 hours ago, Siwel said:

It’s not ridiculous it’s about time we started putting pressure on Referees like this. The players and manager just never had the balls to do it before.

Don’t believe in any officiating conspiracy against us but it’s definitely been easier to give 50/50 or controversial decisions against Rangers over the last number of seasons without credible objection or being called to task. Compare this with the East end who would be highly vocal and usually backed up with MSM or like minded pundits/ commentators (Walker/ Sutton) etc. Calling them out now generally runs against our supports grain however if by doing so it eventually enforces less controversial decision making then I’d say it’s a necessary evil and if I’m honest long overdue...

[Sweetheart 8,458]

9 minutes ago, backup said:

collum saw it he took no action.

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acts on the advice of other match officials regarding incidents that the referee has not seen.

 

So he's been caught red handed in the act.

[dougie76 15,359]

We should have done this last year after the hibs game when it was blatant.

[Supersonic 4,658]

I'm happy we're calling the bad refereeing out like this but that doesn't excuse letting them stroll 80 yards to score like they did. We shouldn't have let that happen. Hopefully behind closed doors Ejaria and a couple others are getting fucking told for letting them score.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

2 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

I'm happy we're calling the bad refereeing out like this but that doesn't excuse letting them stroll 80 yards to score like they did. We shouldn't have let that happen. Hopefully behind closed doors Ejaria and a couple others are getting fucking told for letting them score.

for me the players reacted as though the foul would stand, then were caught off guard on the counter. Ref gifted them the goal.

[Guardian 4,281]

If we hadn't defended so deep and tested their pish defence, this would all be a moot discussion. 

Jack just sounds like sour grapes. 

Its done now, no point greeting about a decision esp when we cant even agree on here if it was a foul. 

We need to learn from the game, adapt our tactics and move on. 

No more standing off them. Incredible Gerrard thought that would work. It just allowed them to stay up the field and overrun us. Its like giving them 2 extra attackers. 

Teams that beat them harry them, don't give them time on the ball and force mistakes. 

Playing the long ball just gives it back to them for another shit. 

They really aren't that good. Its been proven by many teams already. We lost that game because our game plan was rotten. Everyone could see what was going to happen if we didnt push them back. 

That said, they arent our biggest threat. We need to beat everyone else. It is all pointless if we dont beat the other teams. 

 

 

[Supersonic 4,658]

Just now, Sweetheart said:

for me the players reacted as though the foul would stand, then were caught off guard on the counter. Ref gifted them the goal.

Ejaria was with Rogic for most of the way then gave up. Ref isn't to blame for Ejaria not even trying to tackle Rogic. Ref isn't to blame for Ejaria giving up tracking either. 

This type of decision (where a ref doesn't blow for a foul) happens almost every single game. It didn't happen on the edge of our box, it happened at their box ffs. 

 

Players are more to blame than the ref.

[.Williamson. 83,292]

30 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

I don't think that is the aim of SG or JR.

I think the SG's next step should be a meeting with John fleming of the referee's committee,  to tell him of his concern about the refereeing decisions in matches we play, and request that all our games in the Scottish leagues are refereed by a English ref, until the SFA install VAR and Goal line technology.

 

 

VAR won't be happening in Scotland 

[Howsitgoing 4,281]

2 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

Ejaria was with Rogic for most of the way then gave up. Ref isn't to blame for Ejaria not even trying to tackle Rogic. Ref isn't to blame for Ejaria giving up tracking either. 

This type of decision (where a ref doesn't blow for a foul) happens almost every single game. It didn't happen on the edge of our box, it happened at their box ffs. 

 

Players are more to blame than the ref.

The player that was having an outstanding game backtracking and defending with goal stopping challenges had just been cynically taken out of the game. The ref cheated us again and Gerrard is 100% correct in his assertion.

[Supersonic 4,658]

Just now, Howsitgoing said:

The player that was having an outstanding game backtracking and defending with goal stopping challenges had just been cynically taken out of the game. The ref cheated us again and Gerrard is 100% correct in his assertion.

It's amazing that since Gerrard blamed Collum solely for the goal/loss that it means none of our players are to blame for the goal. Wonder if we'll be sitting at the end of the season saying we'd have won the title if only every single ref in every single game had given us every single decision our way 

[Howsitgoing 4,281]

Just now, Supersonic said:

It's amazing that since Gerrard blamed Collum solely for the goal/loss that it means none of our players are to blame for the goal. Wonder if we'll be sitting at the end of the season saying we'd have won the title if only every single ref in every single game had given us every single decision our way 

All we are asking for is a level playing field and not one that is controlled by a fenian media. The ref has cost Rangers 3 points this season already. That is not a normalised situation anywhere else in the world.  This isn’t just one game or even the first season, these cheating bastards have been at it for years.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

3 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

Ejaria was with Rogic for most of the way then gave up. Ref isn't to blame for Ejaria not even trying to tackle Rogic. Ref isn't to blame for Ejaria giving up tracking either. 

This type of decision (where a ref doesn't blow for a foul) happens almost every single game. It didn't happen on the edge of our box, it happened at their box ffs. 

 

Players are more to blame than the ref.

I know but imo our players reacted as thought the foul would stand then got caught out when their counter attack continued. I agree we weren't playing at our best and I believe the team have a genuine reason for it. I also think SG set the team up the way he did to avoid injuries.

I'm still of the opinion that they had their best 11 out against our fatigued Rangers team and couldn't score, so the ref gifted them one. These bad ref decisions need to stop and the only way they'll stop is by SG and the team highlighting them and talking to the right people to force change.

[Hadron Collider 31,211]

Fucksakes it’s a foul! But before the game everyone was shiting it because of refereeing decisions that might cost us. The 4th official is calling it a foul and he is further away. Yes, we didn’t play well, but to be disadvantaged by a cock like Collum is bullshit. Absolutely call these fuckers out on their decision making. Keep the pressure on them. It’s the way to improve refereeing. (I hope). 

[ForeverAndEver 71,955]

1 minute ago, Howsitgoing said:

All we are asking for is a level playing field and not one that is controlled by a fenian media. The ref has cost Rangers 3 points this season already. That is not a normalised situation anywhere else in the world.  This isn’t just one game or even the first season, these cheating bastards have been at it for years.

We should have been down to 10 men, how can we call them biased when we got a massive decision in our favour?

[Sweetheart 8,458]

9 minutes ago, .Williamson. said:

VAR won't be happening in Scotland 

I can't see it happening unless the SFA's hand is forced. I'd settle for an English ref though until they do install it

[Supersonic 4,658]

Just now, Sweetheart said:

I know but imo our players reacted as thought the foul would stand then got caught out when their counter attack continued. I agree we weren't playing at our best and I believe the team have a genuine reason for it. I also think SG set the team up the way he did to avoid injuries.

I'm still of the opinion that they had their best 11 out against our fatigued Rangers team and couldn't score, so the ref gifted them one. These bad ref decisions need to stop and the only way they'll stop is by SG and the team highlighting them and talking to the right people to force change.

the ref gifted them one 

That is fucking mental 

 

I'm sure Collum saw a foul on the edge of their box and thought yass this is it, Rogic only has to go 80+ yards and get round these 3-5 players and he'll score, this is the big chance of the game to let them win...

[Bears r us 30,903]

I remember thinking especially in the second half that Morelos was being fouled up at their end a lot but he was waving play on every time, it was obviously his tactics for the game, and eventually it worked. Job done.