35 Yard Dangerman 3,479 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 For me personally, Europe was fine but I was never comfortable with how it affected us with having to rotate/rest etc. I think come the summer I will look back at these European games and say aye, the money was most welcome and we have ended up with cash for decent signings out of it hopefully. Money from it was worth it, jaded tired cluelessness we are seeing now wasn't. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Europe was great, but the EL has traditionally fucked up domestic performances for many teams. I would say it affected ours, but it has brought in much needed funds. We will be much stonger next time around to deal with it. sausagetrunks and gogzy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, STEPPS BOY said: Gerrard has access to more money than teams like Kilmarnock/Aberdeen and Hibs could ever imagine. we’ve not beat any of them in league after 5 games against them.. Not sure what point your trying to make. We humped Killie in the cup does that not count. We held teams in Europe to draws and beat them with a far lower budget should they sack their managers and rip up their squads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 74,583 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Not sure what point your trying to make. We humped Killie in the cup does that not count. We held teams in Europe to draws and beat them with a far lower budget should they sack their managers and rip up their squads. They did sack their managers, every one of them in group ForeverAndEver, HG5, ger4life_1872 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullyRFC 5,230 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Not sure what point your trying to make. We humped Killie in the cup does that not count. We held teams in Europe to draws and beat them with a far lower budget should they sack their managers and rip up their squads. All 3 did lol HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,856 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 The group stage showed again that we bottle every decent chance we have 35 Yard Dangerman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullyRFC 5,230 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: The group stage showed again that we bottle every decent chance we have We fucked it big time but people are willing to give him 3 windows for it. I'm glad for people who accept mediocre pish it must make their life that bit easier but thank fuck we all don't or we would be a club on par with St Mirren Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,856 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, wullyRFC said: We fucked it big time but people are willing to give him 3 windows for it. I'm glad for people who accept mediocre pish it must make their life that bit easier but thank fuck we all don't or we would be a club on par with St Mirren Imagine giving Caixinha three windows Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,889 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 We have no option but to give Stevie another year (three windows including last summer) from now IMO, we will certainly know by then if he is doing the job we hope he can do. We cannot afford to do anything else anyway, this is an experiment that will have to run its course, and I would like him to be successful if he can be. What is essential is that he can get in some players this Jan window who are better than we have, because only better players will make our team better. Bobby Hume 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Imagine giving Caixinha three windows Wouldnt give that roaster Windows XP ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burts91 427 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, STEPPS BOY said: Gerrard has access to more money than teams like Kilmarnock/Aberdeen and Hibs could ever imagine. we’ve not beat any of them in league after 5 games against them.. This is silly to me. These teams do not play aberdeen or each other the way they play Rangers or celtic. That is simply a fact. Teams set them self up to play us differently, they do not set themselves up to play aberdeen differently. Every game against Rangers is a cup final as well. It’s a small footballer mentality - give everything they have against Rangers/celtic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,284 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, 35 Yard Dangerman said: For me personally, Europe was fine but I was never comfortable with how it affected us with having to rotate/rest etc. I think come the summer I will look back at these European games and say aye, the money was most welcome and we have ended up with cash for decent signings out of it hopefully. Money from it was worth it, jaded tired cluelessness we are seeing now wasn't. My thoughts exactly. 35 Yard Dangerman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,284 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Burts91 said: This is silly to me. These teams do not play aberdeen or each other the way they play Rangers or celtic. That is simply a fact. Teams set them self up to play us differently, they do not set themselves up to play aberdeen differently. Every game against Rangers is a cup final as well. It’s a small footballer mentality - give everything they have against Rangers/celtic. Nothing new there. Only thing that’s changed is OUR response to that. Currently, that looks a bit mixed. Come Saturday tea time, it’ll either be great or woeful! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,284 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Courtyard Bear said: Not sure what point your trying to make. We humped Killie in the cup does that not count. We held teams in Europe to draws and beat them with a far lower budget should they sack their managers and rip up their squads. If you want to bring the LC into it, then that Killie game is SG’s only win against what I would regard as the top 3 rivals in the division. (I’m calling Hearts a busted flush because of all their injuries). As we’re including LC, that also brings in another defeat to one of said top 3. SG’s got 1 win in 8 against these clubs. Ivybank 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,061 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 It has taken Klopp a few seasons to get to the top. Gerrard needs time. Sorry if this has been mentioned. I never have time to read 16 pages !! livibear101 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allyup 175 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 still trust in stevie sorry if this has been mentioned but he is deffo the man for the job. He needs support in the january window but I am confident he will get it. Not saying he will win spfl this season but confident that with trust and support he will stop tims winning 10. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesmer 27 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 On 27/12/2018 at 02:44, sassaaaa said: Your first two lines were exactly the reason he should never have got the job. And lacking experience isn't true either, he has all his tickets, he's been at the top of the game for years as a player, he's been in charge of a team at Liverpool, albeit youngsters. The guy knows the score full well. He made some personnel blunders that have come back to haunt him which he might be able to recover from this coming window. The fact is the team is exactly what we see week in week out: a decent goalkeeper, a talented but temperamental striker, and the rest - mostly semi-talented journeymen who are really only there for the wage. I'll grant that there has been progress but SG needs to pick up the pace in that department and quick. Reputations have a habit of eroding fast in football management. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu 981 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Mesmer said: And lacking experience isn't true either, he has all his tickets, he's been at the top of the game for years as a player, he's been in charge of a team at Liverpool, albeit youngsters. The guy knows the score full well. He made some personnel blunders that have come back to haunt him which he might be able to recover from this coming window. The fact is the team is exactly what we see week in week out: a decent goalkeeper, a talented but temperamental striker, and the rest - mostly semi-talented journeymen who are really only there for the wage. I'll grant that there has been progress but SG needs to pick up the pace in that department and quick. Reputations have a habit of eroding fast in football management. Lets face it his reputation will take quite an knock if he doesnt beat these bastards after all thats what he is here for Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 31,174 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 You think Klopp or Guardiola would do better with the players we’ve got? FFS. Time to give it a rest. SG needs time to put it right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,382 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 53 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: You think Klopp or Guardiola would do better with the players we’ve got? FFS. Time to give it a rest. SG needs time to put it right. Would two of the best managers in the world do better than a rookie? Eh, yeah! Gerrard, obviously needs time, and I think he can be successful. However, flip your question about - would you rather have Klopp or Guardiola as manager, as opposed to Gerrard? The No.9 and Johnny Dangerously 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhW 4,676 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 7 hours ago, bluenoz said: It has taken Klopp a few seasons to get to the top. Where's his league winners' medal? ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,732 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Klopp isn't challenging because he got time , it's all about what he has spent Hadron Collider 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLYBOY50 1,638 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 We have maybe 3 or 4 good players but we are not a very good team at the moment but with time and hopefully more funding from the board we will get there. Unfortunately tomorrow with injuries mounting and the usual suspects doing a disappearing act against the scum I can only see one outcome but like the rest of you I hope to fuck we at least put up a fight and try and win the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 13 hours ago, STEPPS BOY said: They did sack their managers, every one of them in group Before they played us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 13 hours ago, wullyRFC said: All 3 did lol Before they played Us. How many got sacked after?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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