EMRFC 4,842 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, berkshirebear said: The absolute bedrock of a democracy is the right to peaceful protest, yet some on here think it shouldnt be allowed. We are heading down a dark road... Why would anyone protest against an anti-racism message? MarcusDa Beasley, TamCoopz and The Dude 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,333 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, bluenoz said: a thread that was started by the OP with the best of intentions has turned into one of the most embarrassing threads in recent memory. And here it is on the main page of this forum,shambles and threads have been chucked away whats no been as bad as this bluenoz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, southcoastbear said: I refer you to the answers given earlier as this has been covered extensively. Ive asked this question directly several times in the thread without an answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Will Follow Rangers 13,005 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Fucking riddy that had to be said, gutted for the players who have been heroes for us and that's how some would thank them. Racists are ignorant morons. So are Rangers fans booing our players. The Dude and TamCoopz 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 The thought of having this circus trailing alongside us is fucking nauseating. Thread is aids as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshirebear 2,989 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, EMRFC said: Why would anyone protest against an anti-racism message? Dont think the right to peaceful protest contains a caveat to be honest... You should start up a totalitarian regime mate!! DiamondDan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Ive asked this question directly several times in the thread without an answer. Perhaps you should re-read the thread or do you choose ignore that which does not fit with your own narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,484 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiger Shaw said: We don’t have to back anything tbh just don’t fucking boo, if the players feel it’s the right thing to do let them get on with it, it’s all we’re asking, if you disagree with it just keep quiet for a few seconds then get on with backing the team it’s not hard fs respect our players right to protest in whatever way they feel necessary. Fair enough. I just want our players to know I'm behind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMRFC 4,842 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, berkshirebear said: Dont think the right to peaceful protest contains a caveat to be honest... You should start up a totalitarian regime mate!! Still not answering the question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Did the players no get 100% backing for their standing together against racism protest? Why do they need to go backwards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshirebear 2,989 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, EMRFC said: Still not answering the question I dont know if you read what i said. I wouldnt boo. But I strongly believe in the following "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" But theres people on here critical of the snp hate crime bill but attacking people on here now. Bizarre.... DiamondDan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonsan 23 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Couldn't the club publicly extend that taking the knee is not only an anti racist gesture but is also to acknowledge wounded and fallen soldiers, policemen killed in the line of duty etc etc.. It would solve the issue in a heartbeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshirebear 2,989 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Can I be banned? Or is there a way to cancel your account, I only come here out of habit these days and find this place is getting more and more fascist in its outlook.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,648 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 It's a pointless discussion now. People are not going to change the minds of the moronic, no amount of posts and debate is changing anyone's views here. Lock it, if the club are serious they will weed out and ban those who go against the club and players wishes. That's the only way it will work Leeds_Bear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,347 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 berkshirebear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,333 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, berkshirebear said: Can I be banned? Or is there a way to cancel your account, I only come here out of habit these days and find this place is getting more and more fascist in its outlook.. @Steelydan1690does the bans mate pm him he's bald as fuck same as you Steelydan1690 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,046 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Ibroxholm said: The players/club have the right to make any gesture they see fit but I’m afraid I think less of them for using this divisive politicised gesture created by the American race industry that has sadly been imported here largely at the behest of Sky TV American owners, Comcast. Tav may say it’s only to show a stand against racism but it’s totally naive to ignore the baggage that BLM and taking the knee has. We, the Rangers support, have not had a racism issue since Mark Walters signed when. we saw the abhorrent treatment he received. We have solidly backed the ‘give racism the red card’ and ‘kick it out’ campaigns, no one has an issue with these. It’s only when this political racialised shite is brought in from USA that there is any issue. It’s a great pity our club and players have been stupid enough to adopt gestures that cause division in the concensus we had previously. If there is trouble in the stands because of this it’s down to them. Finally, I won’t boo the players myself, I will try to come in late to avoid seeing the club and players acting like the ‘useful idiots’ that they are. Support the players or don’t support the players. It couldn’t be any easier. TamCoopz and Mr Soprano 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,046 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, berkshirebear said: Can I be banned? Or is there a way to cancel your account, I only come here out of habit these days and find this place is getting more and more fascist in its outlook.. consider yourself banned. thanks for contributing in past. berkshirebear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,333 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, berkshirebear said: Can I be banned? Or is there a way to cancel your account, I only come here out of habit these days and find this place is getting more and more fascist in its outlook.. You ever been in the ot? We Will Follow Rangers and TamCoopz 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Godfather 72,648 Posted July 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, DiamondDan said: How tolerant.... Well if you boo players standing against racism you deserve to be booted arse first out the door. The players don't want you there and neither do the fans. Respect it or gtf Negri's lovechild, MarcusDa Beasley, Rum Ham and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBill 46 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 We really need to stop falling out over this. Booing is wrong on so many levels. Taking the knee is not. Our captain clearly explained the reasoning. The problem for many I’d say is it’s early association with BLM in it being divisive and having the opposite effect and so on and anecdotal evidence does reflect this. I get that, but it is still not an excuse to boo. Far better we gave the the lads a rousing cheer as they do it and just how good would that make them feel! If your personal view prevents you from that then just stay stoom. LBH, governments and the footballing authorities are a fucking joke and paying lip service and indeed the root cause of some of it. Our club and our support could take a lead in this up here and demand more be done. Maybe prompt the authorities and government raise further awareness on this, because from where I’m sitting, the only publicity I’m seeing is that we are again the bad guys. We need to change that image and change the narrative, which sadly we have been traditionally poor at and it doesn’t help with so many haters around constantly peddling the fake news. In the meantime it’s about rising above the politics and showing the pride we have in our own lads in the stance they are taking. We simply do the right thing and backing our players is all that. andyhrfc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonsan 23 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Better to generalise it a great deal. Water it down a lot so that it is much more inclusive to all, groups such as the disabled, wounded and elderly soldiers, injured public services - fireman policeman etc etc. Yes of course it will still involve anti racism but widen it out massively and it won't be booed. It will be much more acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Godfather said: Well if you boo players standing against racism you deserve to be booted arse first out the door. The players don't want you there and neither do the fans. Respect it or gtf berkshirebear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueSuedeSambas 54,439 Posted July 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, DiamondDan said: Because they associate it with the BLM movement. Which James Tavernier has made blatantly clear it has nothing to do with. Darth Bear, TamCoopz, Mr Soprano and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMRFC 4,842 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, DiamondDan said: Because they associate it with the BLM movement. Okay but our captain has come out and said it’s nothing to do with BLM (the organisation) and is an anti-racist gesture, nothing more, nothing less. Why aren’t people understanding this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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