2nd Flute 14,036 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 46 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: Gio has regressed us to the point where I give up on this season. Internal promotion to the end of the season for the B team boss would do me. Even the return of Murty would raise a cheer. Yip, 7-1 down to Liverpool, this would have raised a cheer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 52 minutes ago, NI said: I don't understand why he protects the board like this, if his job is on the line he can find another one elsewhere. Be real, say the truth and walk away Gio. I think the problem is he genuinely has no belief in his players. I would say it’s probably not uncommon for a player who played at the very top level to just assume that everyone should have his ability and has no idea how to coach them to improve. He gives off an air of “well what do expect with a bunch of plodders”, “I am telling them what to do know it’s not my fault or their fault that they aren’t capable.” When you have leader who has the attitude of “a donkey can’t win the grand national” the team is never going to perform We need a manager that believes in his players and believes in himself. Gerrard had the belief if not the coaching ability or tactical nous. Gio doesn’t seem to have any of it Rowley Birkin and sausagetrunks 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Guys fucking clueless. 12 champions league games he’s managed btw… 11 defeats MacBoyd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausagetrunks 6,102 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: £160, over 270+ minutes and the opposition keepers have had less than a handful of saves to make. he play keep the zero for the opposition. things are not right between manager and players. if they dont act and it ends the way it looks like ending. those cunts shpuld be chased anol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 23,231 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Rather than being a disadvantage, it’s possible that the Ambulance Eleven we’ve been assembling might actually be a blessing. If even half these malingerers had been fit enough to sell, we would only have bought another Matondo or two. If and when the new manager has his firesale, any monies raised can help fund the purchase of, pretty much, a whole squad. King, Lowry, McCann, Yilmaz, Devine, Colak and possibly the two Americans (if deals at the right price can be done) should be kept and raise whatever we can from flogging the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bakbear 3,586 Posted November 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2022 48 minutes ago, fuckthespl said: I get that fans are disappointed in the performances just now but I think it feels we are doing worse than what we actually are, at least domestically anyway. We are 4 points behind with another 26 games to go and still in all of the domestic cups. There is no need to give up on that. I don’t know how long you have been watching football but it should be obvious that it’s not about the number of points in the league. It’s about the likelihood of winning. Likelihood of winning is extrapolated from performances. The performances under this manager have been woeful and apart from Aberdeen last weekend, trending worse. Every player has regressed under his coaching. Our fitness has regressed, our hunger is missing, we have no clear style of play except “defensive”. We have no invention, creativity or even confidence. Everything is absolutely wrong on the pitch and that comes from the manager. Being 2nd in a two horse race is nothing to cling to. I absolutely dread a GVB team going up against the other horse right now as we look bereft of belief Bristoe1872, NeoGeo7, Rowley Birkin and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,937 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 41 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Does anyone think last nights squad (plus Lundstram) are going to keep the points difference no worse until we play that mob? Does anyone think the squad are likely to beat the scum in January? Which players are likely to be back from injury and up to speed to make the difference? Or do we think we'll do better than them in any transfer dealings before the game? Or perhaps confidence is there that our form will dramatically improve to give us belief? Cos see if there's not that genuine belief and justification for it then its a case of hoping. And if that's all we have then we're better doing something about it before the league does run away from us. How 99% of us can see that but the Board can't or won't, or won't act upon, is disgraceful. I don’t want to keep Gio, but I can see why the board aren’t making decisions yet. We’ve basically got an entire 11 out, which is down to piss poor recruitment which doesn’t sit at Gios door. Also, the tarriers have been scraping wins in the past month and could drop points. Any bad result for them and we’re back in it, the problem is any bad result for us and we’re probably out of it. Fine margins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,636 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, GOAT said: Guys fucking clueless. 12 champions league games he’s managed btw… 11 defeats Embarrassing. It's funny when he arrived I heard he's pish in Europe but won the Dutch league etc. Last season he was phenomenal in Europe and terrible in league. Now he's terrible in both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,290 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, plymouthranger said: I don’t want to keep Gio, but I can see why the board aren’t making decisions yet. We’ve basically got an entire 11 out, which is down to piss poor recruitment which doesn’t sit at Gios door. Also, the tarriers have been scraping wins in the past month and could drop points. Any bad result for them and we’re back in it, the problem is any bad result for us and we’re probably out of it. Fine margins. Since they got beat in Sept by St Mirren they've won all five Oct games with 19 goals for and 5 against. Now they're out of europe and concentrating solely on domestic football I see even less chance of slip ups from them. We have to assume they won't, and assume we'll not slip up either and will best them. I'm not sure whether we'll get enough injured players back fit enough, soon enough, to help hit the form needed to drop less points and also beat them. I'm not seeing where such confidence comes from that we can do it tbh. I'd say it's odds considerably against rather than fine margins. And like with SG it's all about the league, we need that back, anything else is failure. AGM_72, Garnock Blue and Skyson1872 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylegib 516 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Rather than being a disadvantage, it’s possible that the Ambulance Eleven we’ve been assembling might actually be a blessing. If even half these malingerers had been fit enough to sell, we would only have bought another Matondo or two. If and when the new manager has his firesale, any monies raised can help fund the purchase of, pretty much, a whole squad. King, Lowry, McCann, Yilmaz, Devine, Colak and possibly the two Americans (if deals at the right price can be done) should be kept and raise whatever we can from flogging the rest. Flogging the rest he's took as that far backwards we'd struggle to get any fee for our players. Not long ago we were talking of fees around £20m for Morelos, £15m for Kent and £10m for Kamara we'll certainly not be seeing fees like that mentioned for our players anytime soon due to the negative style of football. Bakbear and Colin Traive 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, MacBoyd said: Embarrassing. It's funny when he arrived I heard he's pish in Europe but won the Dutch league etc. Last season he was phenomenal in Europe and terrible in league. Now he's terrible in both. Last season In Europe he had not yet sucked the belief out of them completely. However even in that final I think if we had shown the same intensity as we delivered against Borussia or Leipzig we win that match. MacBoyd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,264 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bakbear said: Last season In Europe he had not yet sucked the belief out of them completely. However even in that final I think if we had shown the same intensity as we delivered against Borussia or Leipzig we win that match. I agree with this. Once he's had a preseason and months more "coaching" he's managed to take every single player backwards at an alarming rate. He's a fraud. He's never a football manager. Bakbear and Rowley Birkin 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,065 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 13 hours ago, scottyc06 said: A board shill. The Godfather and Skyson1872 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,159 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Beast said: I agree with this. Once he's had a preseason and months more "coaching" he's managed to take every single player backwards at an alarming rate. He's a fraud. He's never a football manager. Such shite patter Only manager this century to win Feyenoord a title, and one of 5 in our history to get to a European final, never a manager though McEwan's Lager, magic8ball and plymouthranger 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,657 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Such shite patter Only manager this century to win Feyenoord a title, and one of 5 in our history to get to a European final, never a manager though How do you rate him as a manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,881 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Just now, TheKingObv said: How do you rate him as a manager? Wether he rates him as a manager or not is besides the point. People are making claims that Gio is not a football manager - yet he's won something in every season he's been a manager. ForeverAndEver, magic8ball and Clemdog 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,998 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Negri's lovechild said: And that's the thing. We can't just write off the European results as a "bonus". People have spent their hard earned money on a package that is apparently higher than a lot of other clubs in the competition are paying. The results have been disasterous and the 1-7 game alone should have been enough to see changes. 9 or 10 shots on goal in 6 games is an embarassment. I very much agree, but I also don't think the board could care less. We are adrift in the ocean with no cunt trying to steer us away from the rocks. Negri's lovechild, BlueKnight87 and Bristoe1872 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,970 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Although we have numbers once everyone is fit there are a lot of players soon out of contract and coming up to retirement. And of those they were key players over the last few years. If there was a fire sale of the decent players who are left next summer does anyone believe the money would be spent on anything better than we had sold? I can't remember the last time we bought a player who was obviously improving the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,159 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheKingObv said: How do you rate him as a manager? I’d say he’s a good manager, that doesn’t help himself by being a yes man for the board and continuing to make baffling decisions with his teams and subs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoplandRoad83 3,372 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 His attitude about this is really souring my attitude towards him and loved him as a player. Little accountability for players and mangement underperforming so dramatically. Pathetic, excuse mentality now at the club. We all know the teams are ahead of us, and the horrific injury situation, but how about we concentrate on what we can control and take ownership for our own performances? Workrate, desire are fundamentals. Basic passes going astray. Missed chances from open goals. Transfer money wasted on players not contributing. No tactical plan that made life hard for opponents in any way at all (even to frustrate them or have a low block, the most basic apporoach to frustrate teams who are better than you). You are paid well enough Gio, take some fucking responsibility instead of constantly calling out the things that are out of your control. Hadron Collider, Skyson1872, Loyal-Bear and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,670 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: A board shill. Will be praying for his payoff. Like the players the wet wipe has chucked it. Bristoe1872 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,484 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I think Gio is a stick on to end up managing somebody like New York City FC and probably go on to do quite well. I just don’t think he’s the right manager for us. He’s not got the personality or character for it and it makes the job too big for him. He won’t be the first and he won’t be the last either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristoe1872 2,653 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 You don't have to be Nostradamus to forsee what's about to happen. We will limp on with the same dire performances until we inevitably drop even further behind seperate entity,and yes eventually this manager will go,but by then it will be to little to late. I haven't the willpower or the energy to list the entire litany of why we need change,from worst CL record to 9-1 and 7-1 aggregate losses,to ridiculous transfer decisions on both incoming and outgoing players,the mind numbing football we are watching,the stubborn refusal to change,Peters and Lee can see how this season is going to pan out,and all the while the beasts edge ever closer to our trophy haul. There is also something seriously wrong causing the amount of injuries we are picking up which are almost entirely long term. As a Rangers fan im thoroughly apathetic to this entire situation. Other clubs act. We plod on and dither. Ps. I found the managers comments on our finances alarming. And serious questions need asked. Skyson1872, The Godfather, AdzKyle and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Birkin 9,306 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, The Specky Liar said: Jesus theres no chance we'd get him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayro 3,152 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bakbear said: Last season In Europe he had not yet sucked the belief out of them completely. However even in that final I think if we had shown the same intensity as we delivered against Borussia or Leipzig we win that match. Think that’s harsh. Last season in Europe we were very close to not getting out an average EL group after shitting the bed in the CL qualifier, prior to GvB coming in. His tactics and flexibility helped us in each of those EL knockout rounds, we were penalties away from one of the greatest nights in our lifetime. This season we progressed through two difficult ties to get to the CL and then massively shat ourselves which he needs to take responsibility for especially the manner of the defeats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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