Loyal72 11,810 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Ideally you'd think: UCL group: 1 & 2 goes through, 3rd goes into UEL and 4th drops into UECL. Nothing is ideal with UEFA though. Something making sense is mental. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Loyal72 said: Ideally you'd think: UCL group: 1 & 2 goes through, 3rd goes into UEL and 4th drops into UECL. Nothing is ideal with UEFA though. Something making sense is mental. Nah I kinda like it to be honest. I think finishing 4th should see you dropping out. I'm also not a huge fan of the conference just getting dominated by CL teams that got a hard group for instance. GA1972 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA1972 9,786 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Not anything meaningful. Basically a win in the Uefa conference against some team from Lithuania is worth as much as scudding Man City in the CL in terms of qualifying for the CWC. Do hope we can qualify for it, trying not to get too excited Hopefully we get off to a good start in UCL qualifying to get some points on the board early Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueAvenger 10,423 Posted June 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2023 No fuckin about, just win the Champions League then win the World Club Championship…. AlbertzLoyalRSC, Bad Robot, Albertz85 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, GA1972 said: Do hope we can qualify for it, trying not to get too excited Hopefully we get off to a good start in UCL qualifying to get some points on the board early Not sure you get any points from qualifying rounds. Think it's just points in the groups onwards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 11,810 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Nah I kinda like it to be honest. I think finishing 4th should see you dropping out. I'm also not a huge fan of the conference just getting dominated by CL teams that got a hard group for instance. To be fair when you think of it in that sense, it works. Think I was looking at it selfishly from our woeful performance last season. mitre_mouldmaster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 If we fuck up the chance to play in the CWC, I reserve the right to say that I never wanted it, and that it would have burnt out our squad for the regular season anyway. Loyal72, chris182 and BlueAvenger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA1972 9,786 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Nah I kinda like it to be honest. I think finishing 4th should see you dropping out. I'm also not a huge fan of the conference just getting dominated by CL teams that got a hard group for instance. 100% if you’re finishing 4th you don’t deserve a second chance at scudding some lesser teams Last season for example there’s no way we deserved to be playing any European football after our showing in the groups mitre_mouldmaster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA1972 9,786 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Not sure you get any points from qualifying rounds. Think it's just points in the groups onwards. All games matter including qualifiers for coefficient rankings as far as I’m aware Sure our 4 qualifier seasons against teams like St Joseph’s was a big reason for the amount of coefficient points we were racking up Same reason teams that never make Europe have some coefficient points Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, GA1972 said: All games matter including qualifiers for coefficient rankings as far as I’m aware Sure our 4 qualifier seasons against teams like St Joseph’s was a big reason for the amount of coefficient points we were racking up Same reason teams that never make Europe have some coefficient points Fuck knows, you might be right. Thought qualifier went to the nations coefficient or something, but club coefficients only came from actual group games and beyond. Might have just totally made that up though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA1972 9,786 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Fuck knows, you might be right. Thought qualifier went to the nations coefficient or something, but club coefficients only came from actual group games and beyond. Might have just totally made that up though. I’m sure they all count, mainly so that they can create seedings for the early rounds that contain teams that never qualify. And like you said before they somehow count for the same amount of points as a win against a good team in the competition proper If there was no points for the qualifiers they wouldn’t be able to create seedings for teams like Linfield or champions from your places like Andorra, Gibraltar etc Editing this as it was boggling my brain so I checked. Your qualifiers only count if you’re dumped out in the qualifier. The playoff might count because they seem to class that as the competition proper even though it’s not really…. You get a 4 point bonus for qualification for the UCL which is additional to any points you gain from results. 3 points are provided for qualifying for the UEL group stage but that’s given as a minimum points tally if you score less than 3 points from your results and it isn’t added on as a bonus if you score more than 3 points from results in the group Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,298 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: It's all about how many points we pick up in the group stages. Brugge (our competition for the CWC) are in the conference league and will probably win allot of games. If we go into the CL, we will probably suffer a good few losses even if we finish 3rd, meaning Brugge overtake us in the race to the CWC. If we go into the Europa groups, we will probably get a good few wins, which will keep us ahead of Brugge in the race to the CWC. Sorry mate - didnt realise you were on about coeffitients and CWC being Club World Cup - actually thought you were saying "cup winners cup" I get you now.. Well, yes, the chances are we get beat a few times in the CL, but COnference can be quite a tricky competition as well. Some very good teams in there :) GA1972 and mitre_mouldmaster 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,389 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Nah I kinda like it to be honest. I think finishing 4th should see you dropping out. I'm also not a huge fan of the conference just getting dominated by CL teams that got a hard group for instance. This will be the last season of the current setup. New format next season across the competitions. I'm sure there is no dropping down anymore. CL Group stages gone. It's now single league phase. 36 teams. The top eight sides in the league will qualify automatically for the knockout stage, while teams finishing 9th to 24th will compete in a two-legged play-off to secure place in the last 16. mitre_mouldmaster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BridgeIsBlue 66,639 Posted June 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2023 We need to be playing in the CL every single season. .Williamson., BlueAvenger, Bluekev and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 I think this may be a big ask getting a new squad to gel so quickly. mitre_mouldmaster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: We need to be playing in the CL every single season. I'd swap a year of CL for the CWC to be honest. GA1972 and AGC123 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,501 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Quoting these two posts from the FIFA CWC thread. Actually it should probably be spoken about in there as there's already a lot of good information. Not quoting the all but @Brubear has several good posts on page 7 of that thread further explaining how it works and expanding on what we can potentially hope for. Smile and Brubear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cry was no 3,044 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, GA1972 said: All games matter including qualifiers for coefficient rankings as far as I’m aware Sure our 4 qualifier seasons against teams like St Joseph’s was a big reason for the amount of coefficient points we were racking up Same reason teams that never make Europe have some coefficient points Qualifiers count toward the country coefficient There's no points for teams unless you're eliminated and then you get 2 points or something Team points start from group stages Smile 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Bear 433 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 @johanhentze Looking at the Conference League draw, Club Brugge have been drawn against AGF Aarhus in the 2nd qualifying round. As our Danish football expert do you reckon AGF have a chance of doing us a favour? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,762 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Shetland Bear said: @johanhentze Looking at the Conference League draw, Club Brugge have been drawn against AGF Aarhus in the 2nd qualifying round. As our Danish football expert do you reckon AGF have a chance of doing us a favour? Be a tough draw in reality, probably one of the hardest they could’ve got but they should have enough to see them off Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloUSAGers 1,275 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Zagreb getting to CL is key. If they do and we do, no big deal since we will both be in Pot 3. If they do and we don’t, we will be in EL Pot 1. If they don’t and we don’t, we will almost certainly be in EL Pot 2 and could draw Liverpool, Ajax, West Ham, Villareal, Roma or Leverkusen. Of course I want CL football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cry was no 3,044 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, BuffaloUSAGers said: Zagreb getting to CL is key. If they do and we do, no big deal since we will both be in Pot 3. If they do and we don’t, we will be in EL Pot 1. If they don’t and we don’t, we will almost certainly be in EL Pot 2 and could draw Liverpool, Ajax, West Ham, Villareal, Roma or Leverkusen. Of course I want CL football. I think we'd both be Pot 1 at the expense of Sporting Lisbon (52.5) and Rennes (44)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloUSAGers 1,275 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, the cry was no said: I think we'd both be Pot 1 at the expense of Sporting Lisbon (52.5) and Rennes (44)? Ajax still has to qualify. Presuming they do, they and Zagreb would be in Pot 1 ahead of us along with the six who have already qualified with coefficients above 54. the cry was no 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MisterC 12,377 Posted July 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Shetland Bear said: @johanhentze Looking at the Conference League draw, Club Brugge have been drawn against AGF Aarhus in the 2nd qualifying round. As our Danish football expert do you reckon AGF have a chance of doing us a favour? 10 hours ago, RFC55 said: Be a tough draw in reality, probably one of the hardest they could’ve got but they should have enough to see them off @johanhentze Aarhus, in the middle of our street CharlieHamilton, DiamondBear, johanhentze and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz85 956 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 14:09, BridgeIsBlue said: We need to be playing in the CL every single season. Anyone that doesnt think this is mad. On other hand likelihood is low. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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