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[coopsleftboot 5,512]

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Alfredo Morelos showed his 'childish and petulant' side against Celtic and should have been sent off for a slap on Scott Brown.

That's the view of ex-Aberdeen striker Noel Whelan who insists the Colombian was walking a very thin on derby day and could have been shown a straight red for raising his hands to the Celtic skipper.

 

Evening Tims.

Obviously missed the big story....deflection time, 3 days later.

[hawkeye 1,039]

4 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Can you copy paste mate? 👍

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/football-abuse-victims-need-answers-now-sfa-told-vlzszc66p

 

The distress faced by survivors of sexual abuse in Scottish football is being compounded by delays to a review of paedophilia within the sport, MSPs have claimed.

The Scottish Football Association (SFA) commissioned an independent report into sexual abuse which was due to be released in 2018. A draft was published that year but the final version with victim testimony has been held back several times, prompting anger from those who gave evidence.

Fulton MacGregor, the convener of Holyrood’s cross-party group on the future of football in Scotland, said that he had raised the issue with Ian Maxwell, the SFA chief executive.


“This continued delay is a major concern for many survivors, no doubt causing additional anxiety and distress,” he said. “I wrote to the SFA last week to ask when they expect the report to be published and I am awaiting a response. I hope the publication date issue can be quickly resolved so the report can be made public at the earliest opportunity.”


Mr MacGregor, the SNP MSP for Coatbridge & Chryston, a former social worker, added: “Perhaps then victims can find some closure to the dreadful and traumatic experiences they endured while in football.”


Johann Lamont, the former Scottish Labour leader and co-convener of the cross-party group of adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse, said that she was “gravely concerned” by the failure to publish the report.


She said: “Clearly this report will include important recommendations for action. The SFA must make a firm commitment not just to publish but to provide a deadline by which that commitment will be delivered.

Last month Martin Henry, chairman of the Independent Review into Sexual Abuse in Scottish Football, said he had handed over his final report to the SFA in the summer and had been assured it would be made public by the end of September. “It is up to them to comment on why it hasn’t been released,” he said.


The report was originally delayed to allow court cases linked to historic sexual abuse in football to be completed. More recently survivors have been told that its release has been held back because of the pandemic.


Victims and their representatives have suggested that the SFA and other prominent Scottish football institutions are looking to sideline a report that will highlight their historic failures — and could have consequences for scores of legal cases.


Patrick McGuire, a partner with Thompsons solicitors, which is representing six people who were abused by SFA officials and dozens more who were attacked while playing for senior and junior clubs, said: “The continued delays and excuses by the SFA for not publishing their own report into historic child abuse in Scottish football are simply inexcusable.


“It is deeply upsetting and disrespectful to the many survivors who went through the harrowing process of giving evidence to the inquiry. “This was the inquiry the SFA never wanted to hold and now it’s the report they simply don’t want to release.”


The SFA said that it hoped to release the document this month. A spokesman said: “The Scottish Football Association is equally keen to publish the report and hopes to do so as soon as possible.”

 

[.Williamson. 82,516]

Guardian article is a horrible read

[BlueAvenger 10,279]

16 hours ago, jintybear said:

Its a bastard illness and it took me a long time to get over it. Not so much the fever and cough, which were probably gone in about a fortnight, but the fatigue was the killer. Take it easy and take as much time as you can to recover. Hope you and your family start to feel better soon 

Thanks for your kind words. Yes it's fuckin miserable and taking longer to get better than I expected 

[ExiledWeegie123 1,240]

that article is a great piece, thats what is needed for everyone to see that club for what it truely is. obviously highly distressing to see it put into words and in a way that pulls no punches but if it helps get justice for those poor people then good on them.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,784]

 

And following typical and expected response and reaction from tarriers the journalist has to denounce whataboutery and deflection and confirm the communication was instigated between legal teams.

These bastards are not even bothered by the content, nor the victims, more that its been done with our support driving it. Fucking sewer rats wouldn't mix with these vermin.

[bluenoz 30,918]

When it takes a reputable newspaper like The Guardian to run a story that is long overdue, it gives Scottish media a red-face.

I expect to see them run tidbits of information in the next few weeks to save face.

That article will undoubtedly put pressure on Humza and the SNP to respond and conservative MP's will be driving with this. 

Also, can the SFA remain silent with the so called investigative report?

That was tough to read but surely the clock is now ticking backwards against the tarriers.

Massive monetary fines are coming.

[ayrshireranger 8,153]

If this was the US, those 21 cases would be enough to bankrupt celtic beyond saving. Easily running into hundreds of millions of dollars. Even heading towards billions.

Betcha, the victims here will get a paltry sum for their horrific abuse, and enough for Septic FC to keep going. £1m for each victim wouldnt be enough. 

[coopsleftboot 5,512]

1 hour ago, hawkeye said:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/football-abuse-victims-need-answers-now-sfa-told-vlzszc66p

 

The distress faced by survivors of sexual abuse in Scottish football is being compounded by delays to a review of paedophilia within the sport, MSPs have claimed.

The Scottish Football Association (SFA) commissioned an independent report into sexual abuse which was due to be released in 2018. A draft was published that year but the final version with victim testimony has been held back several times, prompting anger from those who gave evidence.

Fulton MacGregor, the convener of Holyrood’s cross-party group on the future of football in Scotland, said that he had raised the issue with Ian Maxwell, the SFA chief executive.


“This continued delay is a major concern for many survivors, no doubt causing additional anxiety and distress,” he said. “I wrote to the SFA last week to ask when they expect the report to be published and I am awaiting a response. I hope the publication date issue can be quickly resolved so the report can be made public at the earliest opportunity.”


Mr MacGregor, the SNP MSP for Coatbridge & Chryston, a former social worker, added: “Perhaps then victims can find some closure to the dreadful and traumatic experiences they endured while in football.”


Johann Lamont, the former Scottish Labour leader and co-convener of the cross-party group of adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse, said that she was “gravely concerned” by the failure to publish the report.


She said: “Clearly this report will include important recommendations for action. The SFA must make a firm commitment not just to publish but to provide a deadline by which that commitment will be delivered.

Last month Martin Henry, chairman of the Independent Review into Sexual Abuse in Scottish Football, said he had handed over his final report to the SFA in the summer and had been assured it would be made public by the end of September. “It is up to them to comment on why it hasn’t been released,” he said.


The report was originally delayed to allow court cases linked to historic sexual abuse in football to be completed. More recently survivors have been told that its release has been held back because of the pandemic.


Victims and their representatives have suggested that the SFA and other prominent Scottish football institutions are looking to sideline a report that will highlight their historic failures — and could have consequences for scores of legal cases.


Patrick McGuire, a partner with Thompsons solicitors, which is representing six people who were abused by SFA officials and dozens more who were attacked while playing for senior and junior clubs, said: “The continued delays and excuses by the SFA for not publishing their own report into historic child abuse in Scottish football are simply inexcusable.


“It is deeply upsetting and disrespectful to the many survivors who went through the harrowing process of giving evidence to the inquiry. “This was the inquiry the SFA never wanted to hold and now it’s the report they simply don’t want to release.”


The SFA said that it hoped to release the document this month. A spokesman said: “The Scottish Football Association is equally keen to publish the report and hopes to do so as soon as possible.”

 

The SFA investigation is one thing, at least we know an investigation took place....but are the likes of the Times or Guardian aware of Celtic's internal investigation and the outcome of that?....not one of our local rags have ever asked a question on the outcome of that.

[Negri's lovechild 14,136]

1 minute ago, coopsleftboot said:

The SFA investigation is one thing, at least we know an investigation took place....but are the likes of the Times or Guardian aware of celtic's internal investigation and the outcome of that?....not one of our local rags have ever asked a question on the outcome of that.

The lack of holding them to account from the press is scandalous. 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,784]

4 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said:

The SFA investigation is one thing, at least we know an investigation took place....but are the likes of the Times or Guardian aware of Celtic's internal investigation and the outcome of that?....not one of our local rags have ever asked a question on the outcome of that.

Lost track of all their investigations. Though I am certain that they've all found the club not at fault unsurprisingly.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,573]

3 hours ago, johanhentze said:

Interesting. Their wage bill must be huge.

Dunno about their wage bill, but last years accounts had their operating expenses at 90million, thats fucking atrocious for a scottish team

The tierney sale last summer bought them time, they needed to flog someone big this summer, 😂😂😂😂

[Swally 6,289]

42 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

 

And following typical and expected response and reaction from tarriers the journalist has to denounce whataboutery and deflection and confirm the communication was instigated between legal teams.

These bastards are not even bothered by the content, nor the victims, more that its been done with our support driving it. Fucking sewer rats wouldn't mix with these vermin.

it's fucking mental they're not able to push rivalry to one side and see this for what it is - an absolute disgrace.

let's just say it was a Rangers fan who hated celtic with every breath he took, would you ignore evidence of child abuse just simply because it was against his rival?

no you widnae 

[BlueKnight87 17,305]

45 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

 

And following typical and expected response and reaction from tarriers the journalist has to denounce whataboutery and deflection and confirm the communication was instigated between legal teams.

These bastards are not even bothered by the content, nor the victims, more that its been done with our support driving it. Fucking sewer rats wouldn't mix with these vermin.

These arseholes genuinely belive their rancid club did nothing wrong.  So they do what they always do lash out and try to deflect the blame elsewhere. 

They have even gone as far to send death threats to victims families for speaking out. Only complete and utter scumbags could sink that low. 

[Swally 6,289]

8 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Dunno about their wage bill, but last years accounts had their operating expenses at 90million, thats fucking atrocious for a scottish team

The tierney sale last summer bought them time, they needed to flog someone big this summer, 😂😂😂😂

There's rumours flying about that they're trying to find other revenue sources before they really get into trouble.

Members of staff have taken things into their own hands and are doing their best to save the club.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,784]

7 minutes ago, Swally said:

it's fucking mental they're not able to push rivalry to one side and see this for what it is - an absolute disgrace.

let's just say it was a Rangers fan who hated celtic with every breath he took, would you ignore evidence of child abuse just simply because it was against his rival?

no you widnae 

The worst of their lot go on the attack, denying their fault, blaming others, whataboutery etc.

The core of their support just ignore it, don't discuss it, have tunnel vision to ignore any link to it. Maybe its their cult upbringing where no matter what happens in the Chapel you don't speak out for fear of damage to the cult.

Its bizarre and sickening, especially from the ones you'd consider normal folk, who should be appalled by the actions and vociferous against the club for concealing it all 

[coopsleftboot 5,512]

6 minutes ago, Swally said:

There's rumours flying about that they're trying to find other revenue sources before they really get into trouble.

Members of staff have taken things into their own hands and are doing their best to save the club.

Don't look at the mantelpiece when poking the fire 

[Swally 6,289]

2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

The worst of their lot go on the attack, denying their fault, blaming others, whataboutery etc.

The core of their support just ignore it, don't discuss it, have tunnel vision to ignore any link to it. Maybe its their cult upbringing where no matter what happens in the Chapel you don't speak out for fear of damage to the cult.

Its bizarre and sickening, especially from the ones you'd consider normal folk, who should be appalled by the actions and vociferous against the club for concealing it all 

To be honest mate I just think it comes down to protecting their club at any cost.

Its disgusting, but you can’t say they haven’t been successful so far. 

About time justice was done.

It’s the point scoring argument I just do not understand one bit. I’ve heard the pundits call a Rangers fan out for point scoring before he was cut off in the phone in. He was just trying to talk about the atrocities.

If they said, we cannot discuss this on air due to the legal ramifications and the BBC’s own guidelines in place to protect the victims, fair enough. Shite excuse, but at least you’ve shown your hand.

Point scoring? No, doesn’t matter the manner in which the message was delivered or who delivered the message - it’s the substance that actually matters. This is child abuse, not something frivolous. It requires media coverage.

[Howsitgoing 4,281]

20 minutes ago, Swally said:

it's fucking mental they're not able to push rivalry to one side and see this for what it is - an absolute disgrace.

let's just say it was a Rangers fan who hated celtic with every breath he took, would you ignore evidence of child abuse just simply because it was against his rival?

no you widnae 

I just don’t get it either. Their victimisation complex is normally in full view and in this situation  the fans might just have a point.
Paedophiles was allowed to use their club to enable them to abuse kids, the fans of this club should be demanding death sentences to the individuals that allowed that to occur. 

[magic8ball 27,901]

55 minutes ago, ayrshireranger said:

If this was the US, those 21 cases would be enough to bankrupt celtic beyond saving. Easily running into hundreds of millions of dollars. Even heading towards billions.

Betcha, the victims here will get a paltry sum for their horrific abuse, and enough for Septic FC to keep going. £1m for each victim wouldnt be enough. 

It’s been said that there are victims out there who’s main drive is to get an apology ,Apologies don’t cost a penny 

Don’t think you can put a price on the damage caused by what went on,How do you financially compensate somebody that has had 40 to 50 years of baggage to carry around with them .

[ritchieshearercaldow 22,162]

Double take 

 

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,573]

More rumours coming out now that their accounts are going to be horrific 

[Paisley Blue Loyal 11,213]

4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

More rumours coming out now that their accounts are going to be horrific 

Can Dermot not just underwrite any losses(If he wants to obviously) or is that a no goer ?

[bluedart1952 1,351]

Just now, Paisley Blue Loyal said:

Can Dermot not just underwrite any losses(If he wants to obviously) or is that a no goer ?

Don't know if he can, but he's upto his neck on money laundering charges. 

[Paisley Blue Loyal 11,213]

1 minute ago, bluedart1952 said:

Don't know if he can, but he's upto his neck on money laundering charges. 

So maybe best he keeps his head down then eh and no chuck anymore money about just incase he needs it himself 😂