Gerrard on transfers out

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, Jimbeamjunior said:

Tbf we should have probably sold pre CL qualifiers, our hand was much stronger then 

Again though, not a sniff of interest in our guys either that we know of

There was interest in Kamara but nothing more. Kent seems to all be his agent touting him, same with Morelos. But aye, we've not sold mainly because there's been no hard cash on the table so far. Had heard something about Roofe and, tbh, the more I think about the, the more I think he's probably the most likely to sell. He's got the experience in England so isn't seen as much as a gamble as Morelos would and would arguably be more liable to get us a bigger fee up front because of that. 

[Scouse_Legend 399]

Let's face it, if there is no solid offer on the table or interest from other clubs then we our hand will be forced to offer them to clubs at a cut price

[Jimfanciesthedude 25,017]

58 minutes ago, The Dude said:

There was interest in Kamara but nothing more. Kent seems to all be his agent touting him, same with Morelos. But aye, we've not sold mainly because there's been no hard cash on the table so far. Had heard something about Roofe and, tbh, the more I think about the, the more I think he's probably the most likely to sell. He's got the experience in England so isn't seen as much as a gamble as Morelos would and would arguably be more liable to get us a bigger fee up front because of that. 

Roofe for me would be a massive loss, he suits a variety of attacking styles that we can adopt, very fluid up front himself or playing off a striker, to me he's a big part of us winning this league again

[DrLaudrup 4,855]

I don't think he says anything we didn't know, and that has been the transfer model we have aspired to since the current board have been in place. Aside from the media constantly trying to unsettle our players there doesn't seem to be any bid for anyone. 

[Gaffbear 4,106]

I'd hope if we are forced to sell then Wilson will have players lined up

[Laudrupsleftfoot 11,369]

If we lose Morelos and don't replace him we're not winning the league this season.

[BridgeIsBlue 66,655]

2 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

If we lose Morelos and don't replace him we're not winning the league this season.

This. 

[Ross-Gazza genius 1,933]

2 hours ago, The Dude said:

Our business model shouldn't be selling our best players to make up for failures on the pitch. That's an awful business model. 

It shouldn't be spend spend spend to make up for our failures either! 

[The Dude 20,026]

1 minute ago, Ross-Gazza genius said:

It shouldn't be spend spend spend to make up for our failures either! 

Completely agree. Gerrard has a title winning squad at his disposal. Time to work with what he has. 

[Ross-Gazza genius 1,933]

2 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Completely agree. Gerrard has a title winning squad at his disposal. Time to work with what he has. 

That's it in a nutshell, we have a better squad than last year with the 2 additions, he just needs to ram it home to the players that they need to get their fingers out. 

[Negri's lovechild 14,539]

13 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Completely agree. Gerrard has a title winning squad at his disposal. Time to work with what he has. 

That's the reality of the situation.

As much as we would all love us to go out and spend 6/7 million in a midfielder or striker, we have a large squad and it does look like any signings are dependant on players leaving for decent fees. 

The players here are capable of winning the league, they need to get out and prove it again. The players in reserve also need to look at the current poor form as an opportunity to stake a place. They play a massive role in giving starting players a kick up the arse.

[SkylineBlue 24,407]

I'm still trying to get my head around how we fucked it so badly tbh. Once I've managed to digest that I'll think about this.

[BlueVanguard 7,072]

2 hours ago, The Dude said:

Our business model shouldn't be selling our best players to make up for failures on the pitch. That's an awful business model. 

I agree but if we can cash in on our players we need to take it money talks.

 

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, BlueVanguard said:

I agree but if we can cash in on our players we need to take it money talks.

 

If we cash in on anyone, we're getting bargain bucket replacements (if any at all) 

[King Jela 20,684]

3 hours ago, Dave Whelan said:

Don’t understand this. We need to add not sell. Automatic CL place for winners. 

Which part do you not understand? 

[Davidorrp 285]

If we sell some of our better players (assuming anyone wants them) to lower debit, I’m fine with that. We can’t allow the club to get into a financial mess again.  We just have to adapt and the coaching staff have to earn their corn by improving the players who step in to replace those gone.  
 

We still have a squad that should win the league even with some player losses. I don’t expect it to be a walkover as celtic are making signings and will improve. But we just need coaching staff and players to work harder, improve and be greedy in wanting the league and cups.  

Our sellable assets such as Goldson, Borna, Tav, Kamara, Kent and Morelos would be big losses although I do think we have some decent replacements in the squad. Maybe not exact replacements in quality but certainly ones that can be improved upon.  But we’ve lost quality players before and won leagues and can do so again.
 

 

[slimjim1690 4,534]

18 minutes ago, The Dude said:

If we cash in on anyone, we're getting bargain bucket replacements (if any at all) 

While I agree this is probably true from speculation that we've been used to hearing, I'd like to put it out here, what indeed if no offers come in for any of our players then what is the boards plan then? I'm certain this would also have to have been planned for, so if we can afford to keep the squad in that scenario then given the importance of winning the league this season, why then if we were to sell someone, [if we can afford to keep the squad as is] why then do we have to go for a bargain bucket replacement? it would undoubtedly be a big ask of the board but I'm just asking.

[BlueKnight87 17,465]

1 hour ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

If we lose Morelos and don't replace him we're not winning the league this season.

Morelos has been linked with moves for the last 2 years. 

At this point surley a shortlist of players has been drawing up that come be brought in to replace him. 

[Jimfanciesthedude 25,017]

55 minutes ago, slimjim1690 said:

While I agree this is probably true from speculation that we've been used to hearing, I'd like to put it out here, what indeed if no offers come in for any of our players then what is the boards plan then? I'm certain this would also have to have been planned for, so if we can afford to keep the squad in that scenario then given the importance of winning the league this season, why then if we were to sell someone, [if we can afford to keep the squad as is] why then do we have to go for a bargain bucket replacement? it would undoubtedly be a big ask of the board but I'm just asking.

I was thinking this on Tuesday night along with how much the players annoyed me for that second half 

The board say we need to either sell players for big profit or qualify for the CL, what if neither happens, 

Funnily enough, a decade ago, myself, along with a few others, had a big debate on here with @TheLawManwho was theweissman as the time iirc, when ally got us dumped out of europe, lawman was predicting a financial disaster unless we sold a lot of profitable players, i dont think anyone heeded his warnings at all "give the board time, they'll sort it, its rangers we'll have backup plans" etc etc

Fast forward 5 months and the world fell out from beneath all of us

Now while admin wont happen again as i doubt the board would allow it, the financial black hole we will face is very real and very fucking big, pre covid it was around 12mill, thats with a europa last 16 run, tarriers out before us so we took the lions share of the tv cash im sure, plus 8 home sellout games

Since then we have increased our wage budget, spent more on players, not took a penny in from sales, and theres no guarantee of the same europa money this season 

The board have a massive decision to make, and make very very soon, either whore our best talents, or cover the potential shortfall themselves again, or at least tell the auditors they'll cover whatever predicted shortfall there will be

[Prso's headband 35,942]

3 hours ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

If we lose Morelos and don't replace him we're not winning the league this season.

It was actually frightening to see how much we relied on him, the literal glue that holds the team together. No forward planning to ever replace him either. Roofe, Itten and Sakala all have different qualities that Alfie has all by himself, we can’t play all 3 down the middle. 

[rabc10000 5,061]

2 hours ago, BlueVanguard said:

I agree but if we can cash in on our players we need to take it money talks.

 

We should be prioritising who we can live without and replace easily and who we deem as irreplaceable to an extent. I have my own opinions on who we should be looking to sell first before the likes of Alfie and even Kamara 

[Glory awaits 285]

Catch 22 with Kent.... He needs teams to have a go at us to be effective, this won’t happen 90% of the time with teams playing 10 on the 18yd line... probably be one of our best players every time we play them as there will be more space to run into

[Jimfanciesthedude 25,017]

8 hours ago, Prso's headband said:

It was actually frightening to see how much we relied on him, the literal glue that holds the team together. No forward planning to ever replace him either. Roofe, Itten and Sakala all have different qualities that Alfie has all by himself, we can’t play all 3 down the middle. 

Yet last season there was times we pished it without him, last season it looked like gerrard and his backroom team changed our style to accomodate morelos not being there, now its like we have completely forgot that and went back to how we play pre covid

[Brian Fantana 28,894]

Back to the David Murray years it seems.....

[The Dude 20,026]

10 hours ago, slimjim1690 said:

While I agree this is probably true from speculation that we've been used to hearing, I'd like to put it out here, what indeed if no offers come in for any of our players then what is the boards plan then? I'm certain this would also have to have been planned for, so if we can afford to keep the squad in that scenario then given the importance of winning the league this season, why then if we were to sell someone, [if we can afford to keep the squad as is] why then do we have to go for a bargain bucket replacement? it would undoubtedly be a big ask of the board but I'm just asking.

Because we don't have the money to buy replacements and the board have said they are unwilling to fund any more losses. Any transfer fees we get will go to covering losses and only once we cover those will we spend anyything on transfer fees.