Imagine some Rangers supporters saying you are not a Rangers supporter because of a Political belief ?

[Scottywellhousetb 50,473]

1 minute ago, Bluepeter9 said:

Answered in previous post - I’m not here to do your work for you 

Wtf are you talking about? In fact It doesn't matter, I don't want to converse with you, I don't like you. 

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

13 minutes ago, They Gnu said:

If Scotland is allowed to keep the pound how independent would it be if it’s monetary policy was decided by Westminster and the BoE?

If ? Would it want to ? And if it did there would be a negotiation to be had ? We could have a Scottish pound ? After all that’s not unheard of ! And a bank of scotland - there’s a novel concept ! Perhaps we join the euro, or adopt the Swedish kroner! 

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

1 minute ago, Scottywellhousetb said:

Wtf are you talking about? In fact It doesn't matter, I don't want to converse with you, I don't like you. 

So no debate then - as I said groundhog day 

[They Gnu 11,553]

4 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said:

If ? Would it want to ? And if it did there would be a negotiation to be had ? We could have a Scottish pound ? After all that’s not unheard of ! And a bank of scotland - there’s a novel concept ! Perhaps we join the euro, or adopt the Swedish kroner! 

Perhaps you’ll be shagging Scarlett Johanson with a hundred million Eurolottery cheque in yer arsecrack. Don’t you think what currency you use is important?

[Tiger Shaw 30,470]

Adopt the Swedish kroner 

🤣🤣🤣

These cunts don’t care let’s not kid ourself, it’s independence at any cost. wanks 

[Tiger Shaw 30,470]

What are we, 6 years from the referendum ? and these Nat mongos still don’t have a clue what currency an independent Scotland would use 🤣

 

[BlueAvenger 10,240]

4 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said:

What are we, 6 years from the referendum ? and these Nat mongos still don’t have a clue what currency an independent Scotland would use 🤣

 

We won’t need a currency…..everything will be free !! 

[Hadron Collider 30,883]

2 minutes ago, BlueAvenger said:

We won’t need a currency…..everything will be free !! 

Including laptops and bikes.  Anybody know who got one?

[TamCoopz 19,605]

13 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said:

Including laptops and bikes.  Anybody know who got one?

@Bluepeter9 received these items I believe 

[Ayrshire Blue 2,053]

1 hour ago, Bluepeter9 said:

……..Scotland are not allowed to borrow money……

Really - 

Borrowing powers were devolved to the Scottish Parliament by the Scotland Act 2012 and extended by the Scotland Act 2016.

The Scottish Government can borrow up to £450m per annum for capital investment (a cap of £3bn). On resource spending, they can borrow up to £600m per annum (a cap of £1.75bn)

 

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[Ayrshire Blue 2,053]

1 hour ago, Bluepeter9 said:

Answered in previous post - I’m not here to do your work for you 

You’ve never answered a single question that I’ve asked. 

Start with the first one - tell me one thing the Snats have done in 15 years to improve Scotland & grow our economy?

[Ayrshire Blue 2,053]

1 hour ago, Bluepeter9 said:

the chains around health service and education are budgets as we can’t borrow for infrastructure, as we are not allowed to, and by the infamous Barnett formulae we don’t even get allocated a budget based on what is raised because monies are kept for things like armed forces ( no issue there ) HS2, channel tunnel, third runway at Heathrow, cross city link etc. 
 

and it’s not just a financial question either - strategy is determined not by the people of scotland but by the ruk - we can’t diverge there as we have no powers to do so. 

What chains around health & education  - there is no set budget and the Scottish administration can spend what it likes on them - where do you think Scottish tax goes?

Its an absolute Snat myth that we pay for HS2, etc.

[Ayrshire Blue 2,053]

1 minute ago, Ayrshire Blue said:

What chains around health & education  - there is no set budget and the Scottish administration can spend what it likes on them - where do you think Scottish tax goes?

Its an absolute Snat myth that we pay for HS2, etc.

From ScotGov website

HS2

https://www.gov.scot/publications/foi-202000015934/

Scotland being PAID for crossrail 😂

https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/scotland-given-ps500m-sop-for-crossrail-6616253.html

Heathrow 3rd Runway

Heathrow expansion: Scottish government welcomes third runway plan http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37761487

 

[TamCoopz 19,605]

1 hour ago, Bluepeter9 said:

Sure why don’t you do that - and in the interests of parity count all the posts with no debate, just the ‘snp bad’ rhetoric, or the ‘never a Rangers fan’ shite - just for comparison - do it fairly and I’ll answer every single debate point with my opinion 

The poster you’re ignoring is doing it fairly, you clearly just don’t have the answers

[scottyscott1963 18,328]

He cherry picked a couple of the questions and prevaricated a couple of answers to Ayrshire Blue,and there are more holes in his argument then a swiss cheese.
He is an snp fanbhoy and is the typical "there are none so blind as those who do not see".
Me personally see them as workshy free loading bastards.
And the anti English/British/Union is encouraged by a spiteful hate filled government ever to run a country.
 

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

2 hours ago, They Gnu said:

Perhaps you’ll be shagging Scarlett Johanson with a hundred million Eurolottery cheque in yer arsecrack. Don’t you think what currency you use is important?

No I don’t 

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

1 hour ago, Ayrshire Blue said:

You’ve never answered a single question that I’ve asked. 

Start with the first one - tell me one thing the Snats have done in 15 years to improve Scotland & grow our economy?

Free prescriptions, free university education are probably a decent start. 

[scottyscott1963 18,328]

2 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said:

You do realise I answered that post - in fact the poster had to make a wee donation to Erskine based on my answers ( mind you that might have been another thread making the same accusation as it’s often like Groundhog Day in here. ) 

It was on Rangers voting snp.
I know you support Rangers.
Cannot believe your boasting about free prescriptions.
But! i did ask you to name one thing they have done,which wasn't exactly what have they got right,unless you have drawers full of pills and potions,and that was why i gave a donation to Erskine.
Out of all the questions Ayrshire Blue has asked you,not one has been answered in a straight forward answer.

[Ayrshire Blue 2,053]

6 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said:

Free prescriptions, free university education are probably a decent start. 

But prescriptions are not actually FREE - do you think big pharmaceutical companies give it to Scotland for FREE. It has to be paid for, by revenue generated, meaning that money is cut from elsewhere, like drug rehab, etc leading to higher drug deaths.

‘Free’ Uni places have been absolutely slashed to allow fee paying students access to Unis - and again, it was never actually FREE, it was paid for.

You've really swallowed the Snat book of absolute pish & drivel if you believe it’s all FREE

[AGC123 1,185]

12 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said:

Free prescriptions, free university education are probably a decent start. 

I will be shocked if free prescriptions are still a thing in 3 / 5 years max without independence. 
 

I can guarantee they will be gone immediately if we we’re to be independent. 
 

our fiscal deficit is running at 22%! The maximum allowed in the eu is 3% so that along with the Catalonia issue seals the issue about EU membership it won’t happen 

[scottyscott1963 18,328]

1 minute ago, Bluepeter9 said:

Free prescriptions, free university education are probably a decent start. 

You must've been typing that shite as i was typing out it's a fucking disaster.
I've got a niece with a 25 year old who did her teacher training and qualified last year,to be given a one year placement,only to be chucked on the dole to make way for this years graduates,who are under the same terms and conditions,and they keep talking it up.
I've got a 13 year old grandson in a class of 36 pupils and if i remember correctly she said she was working towards class sizes of 26 maximum.
Trust me,the health service is safe in my hands....pffffft
Trust me,the health service is not for sale,after spending £150 Million last year alone on PRIVATE health services.
AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING LYING BASTARD.
So I'm adding millions wasted on teacher training to Ayrshire Blues extensive pile of millions wasted by your friends in government.
The shower of cunts are reminiscent of Randle McMurphy taking the patients on a fishing trip.

[Ayrshire Blue 2,053]

3 minutes ago, AGC123 said:

I will be shocked if free prescriptions are still a thing in 3 / 5 years max without independence. 
 

I can guarantee they will be gone immediately if we we’re to be independent. 
 

our fiscal deficit is running at 22%! The maximum allowed in the eu is 3% so that along with the Catalonia issue seals the issue about EU membership it won’t happen 

In England (the figures are a few years old admittedly) 89.7% of prescriptions were issued without charge (FREE, for the hard of thinking) at the point of dispensing.

https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/publications/statistical/prescriptions-dispensed-in-the-community/prescriptions-dispensed-in-the-community-statistics-for-england-2005-2015

In a future Indy🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿, if Mike Russell and his disciples don’t push through their privatised health system, 🇺🇸 Companies like IHI will.

[.Williamson. 82,208]

@Ayrshire Blue giving @Bluepeter9 an absolute hiding in here

Never seen him avoid so many posts

[They Gnu 11,553]

8 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said:

No I don’t 

If you keep the pound interest rates and fiscal policy will be dictated by Westminster, Scotland is miles away from meeting the criteria for joining the EU but if the Frogs and the Krauts allow you to join and use the €, just to get it up the U.K., interest rates ect will be dictated by Germany. Unlike yourself I’m not an expert however it doesn’t seem very independent to me.

still ABE eh.

[left winger 14,171]

8 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said:

Free prescriptions, free university education are probably a decent start. 

 

8 hours ago, Ayrshire Blue said:

But prescriptions are not actually FREE - do you think big pharmaceutical companies give it to Scotland for FREE. It has to be paid for, by revenue generated, meaning that money is cut from elsewhere, like drug rehab, etc leading to higher drug deaths.

‘Free’ Uni places have been absolutely slashed to allow fee paying students access to Unis - and again, it was never actually FREE, it was paid for.

You've really swallowed the Snat book of absolute pish & drivel if you believe it’s all FREE

If we go back a bit, there were no fees to be paid by UK students in the UK for university education. University education was considered to be free (we can have the ‘nothing is free’ argument all day long). Then fees were directly introduced in the other 3 UK countries but not in Scotland for Scottish students. If uni education was deemed to be free (free at source) before, then it still is now.

Thats is the same for prescriptions for a large part of the Scottish population, and it’s the same for the removal of tolls on bridges. These things still need to be paid for, but are regarded as ‘free’, if ‘free at source’.

Another example, would be our ‘free’ education system - it obviously needs paid for, but is deemed to be free.

A university education should be free (first degree, at least, anyway), and it’s to the credit of the SNP, that it still is.

Just about everything else they do is a cluster fuck, right enough.