sassaaaa 11,406 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Major step forward if we get rid of this prick. BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,473 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I'm in the same camp as everyone else in being happy to see the back of him but playing devils advocate here, Michael Beale seems to have a really good relationship with him and he also seemed to be really excited and positive about summer signings. My worry would be if Wilson goes to Forest he takes that knowledge with him, and he'd know the kind of transfer fee and wage our summer targets are looking for, last thing we need is getting gazumped for our first choice targets. Also if guys like Cantwell and Raskin have any kind of clauses in their contract then that's another thing he could be all over. On the face or it I'm happy if he goes but I think these are downsides we need to acknowledge as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,713 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, NixonRFC said: I'm in the same camp as everyone else in being happy to see the back of him but playing devils advocate here, Michael Beale seems to have a really good relationship with him and he also seemed to be really excited and positive about summer signings. My worry would be if Wilson goes to Forest he takes that knowledge with him, and he'd know the kind of transfer fee and wage our summer targets are looking for, last thing we need is getting gazumped for our first choice targets. Also if guys like Cantwell and Raskin have any kind of clauses in their contract then that's another thing he could be all over. On the face or it I'm happy if he goes but I think these are downsides we need to acknowledge as well. A good contract/sports lawyer and a decent chief scout would be a better option. As for getting gazumpted that’s nonsense our targets might differ widely in terms of position and budget Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicWill 879 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, KeyserSoze said: I’d argue we should get rid of that role altogether. There’s nothing to suggest we have benefitted in any way. It’s a fake role that makes you a “modern “ club. We have been really successful without such a role Nope, it's imperative in modern football - particularly for a club like us who don't have huge amounts of money. With managers in football staying in jobs for shorter periods of time than years gone by, we can't afford to chop and change players solely based upon a new manager's tactical preferences and desires. Done properly, a DOF ensures that the team has a coherent tactical approach and philosophy that spans beyond the reign of one manager and ensures that when a new coach takes over the players there will generally be suitable to his needs. Obviously a manager may have individual targets and the club can choose to pursue these if they fit the team's overall philosophy. Football has changed and there's a reason basically every top club operates like this. NixonRFC, LineysLament and gazza87 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,473 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: A good contract/sports lawyer and a decent chief scout would be a better option. As for getting gazumpted that’s nonsense our targets might differ widely in terms of position and budget You say it's nonesense then say "might differ" 🤦♂️ That's the point, just like you I don't know who our targets are, they might very well differ from what Forest want but if they don't then we'd be competing with a club that knows our hand before we play it. I'm basing this train of thought on Forest being a Championship club next season or course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,942 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Best transfer we’d make all season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The No.9 760 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Don’t think we’d have to replace him tbh plenty of clubs get by fine without one including us for 100+ years lol sassaaaa and BlueAvenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,664 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 If he goes I would think they'd make John Parks role a bit wider. J-Maestro 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,894 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, esquire8 said: If he goes I would think they'd make John Parks role a bit wider. Has he done anything like that for a long time though? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,664 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, J-Maestro said: Has he done anything like that for a long time though? Like what? What has Ross Wilson been doing since Beale came back? It's not that far off what a chief scout would do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueAvenger 10,516 Posted April 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2023 Recruitment has been mainly awful under Wilson so get him to fuck. We don’t need a DoF and it’s a waste of salary. Moody Blue, Loyal72, Hadron Collider and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,776 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 44 minutes ago, esquire8 said: If he goes I would think they'd make John Parks role a bit wider. Was it not discussed he was joining the Edinburgh junkies a wee while back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,664 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, JM1872 said: Was it not discussed he was joining the Edinburgh junkies a wee while back? Still here and Beale loves working alongside him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craiggybear 6,192 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Had a look at a forest forum there... https://www.forestforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/ross-wilson-current-Rangers-sporting-director.51170/ J-Maestro 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,713 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, SonicWill said: Nope, it's imperative in modern football - particularly for a club like us who don't have huge amounts of money. With managers in football staying in jobs for shorter periods of time than years gone by, we can't afford to chop and change players solely based upon a new manager's tactical preferences and desires. Done properly, a DOF ensures that the team has a coherent tactical approach and philosophy that spans beyond the reign of one manager and ensures that when a new coach takes over the players there will generally be suitable to his needs. Obviously a manager may have individual targets and the club can choose to pursue these if they fit the team's overall philosophy. Football has changed and there's a reason basically every top club operates like this. What a lot of nonsense - each manager that appears has a different style of play and philosophy he stamps that on the club that’s why they get the bullet when they loose, play shite, etc and How has football changed? It’s still a squad of 25ish and 11 players kicking a ball about ffs It’s a bollox position that reaps nothing much. ask the fat Australian how he is doing without a DOF. Give me a contracts lawyer and a solid scouting department any day Loyal72, The No.9 and Rowley Birkin 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the hotdog 4,055 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, NixonRFC said: I'm in the same camp as everyone else in being happy to see the back of him but playing devils advocate here, Michael Beale seems to have a really good relationship with him and he also seemed to be really excited and positive about summer signings. My worry would be if Wilson goes to Forest he takes that knowledge with him, and he'd know the kind of transfer fee and wage our summer targets are looking for, last thing we need is getting gazumped for our first choice targets. Also if guys like Cantwell and Raskin have any kind of clauses in their contract then that's another thing he could be all over. On the face or it I'm happy if he goes but I think these are downsides we need to acknowledge as well. If they stay in the prem they will be shopping in a very different market to us and given his record I wouldn’t be too worried about it anyway. Cantwell or Raskin haven’t done nearly enough to get a move to the prem yet. Concerning yourself about nothing. Roy Hobbs and J-Maestro 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,308 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Would there be a compensation fee due and if so, how much would it cost us? beararse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marco 1,628 Posted April 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2023 'Sat nav will want you to stay on the M6 all the way, but ignore it and get onto the A1 when you can to avoid traffic. Best of luck. Your stuff's already been shipped down.' Giiise, WilliamMunny, RJMcGregor and 7 others 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,469 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Be a good step forward offloading Wilson. We need a fresh start. His recruitment record is a shambles. Bears r us and BlueAvenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,831 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 A lot of posters on FF claiming to be ITK. Saying he's been wanting out for a while Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 11,633 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 His tenure at Ibrox has been a disaster. Be glad to see him go if true BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzalivesforever 2,001 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Southampton fans absolutely despise him for the mess he left them in. We absolutely hate him for the shite he's brought in. How can the forest owner look at his transfer history at his two previous clubs and think yeah I'll have a bit of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,831 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Just now, JackAlex93 said: His tenure at Ibrox has been a disaster. Be glad to see him go if true On paper it's been decent tbf mate league champions, Europa league finalists his transfer record in his time tho has been poor tbh. Still dunno how I feel tbh massive upheaval so close to the summer what if any effect will this have on recruitment. You'd like to think if we plan to stay with a DOF we'd be well down the road in sourcing a replacement. Who has a say in that the manager obviously those two need to have a solid relationship etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyBlue 17,220 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gazzalivesforever said: Southampton fans absolutely despise him for the mess he left them in. We absolutely hate him for the shite he's brought in. How can the forest owner look at his transfer history at his two previous clubs and think yeah I'll have a bit of that. Didn’t they sign something mental like 25+ players in the summer 😅 weirdo club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,549 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gazzalivesforever said: Southampton fans absolutely despise him for the mess he left them in. We absolutely hate him for the shite he's brought in. How can the forest owner look at his transfer history at his two previous clubs and think yeah I'll have a bit of that. Probably because the Forrest owner is an absolute lunatic of an owner Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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