Is It Time For A New Captain ?

[Laudrupsleftfoot 11,024]

Personally think he's really grown as a leader.

His performances, including yesterday, are far from our problem.

He seems universally respected amongst the squad and he's a good ambassador for us off the park.

Changing the captain particularly whilst he's still a first choice player will do absolutely fuck all except cause problems.

[bluenoz 30,971]

24 minutes ago, The Specky Non Liar - Sometimes said:

Dont see what difference it would make

 

[Malkytfp1 18,618]

11 minutes ago, BlueboyG said:

He has won next to fuck all since being captain, he doesnt seem vocal enough on the park and moans at every cunt when he fucks up.

So who would you appoint in the team who has won more?

Tav has been shite this season. However, he has won silverware, has captained us to a major European final whilst being our most influential player and generally seems to be the most vocal player on the park. He also doesn't miss games and seems to be quite popular as well as (like it or not) a hall of famer. Who is a better option?

No disrespect but I sometimes feel we play Rangers bingo after a bad result and go to the same people to point the finger at.

[Smile 26,610]

I think we have bigger problems to tackle first.

[BlueboyG 5,256]

6 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Winning fuck all as captain means less than nothing re: his leadership.

He's probably the most vocal Rangers player on the park.

Would disagree, Goldson is more vocal, Tav just moans.

[Malkytfp1 18,618]

Just now, BlueboyG said:

Would disagree, Goldson is more vocal, Tav just moans.

🤣 How can you tell what he is saying?

[The Dude 20,026]

1 minute ago, Malkytfp1 said:

So who would you appoint in the team who has won more?

Tav has been shite this season. However, he has won silverware, has captained us to a major European final whilst being our most influential player and generally seems to be the most vocal player on the park. He also doesn't miss games and seems to be quite popular as well as (like it or not) a hall of famer. Who is a better option?

No disrespect but I sometimes feel we play Rangers bingo after a bad result and go to the same people to point the finger at.

Basically leaves McGregor or Davis and that can fuck right off. 

[The Dude 20,026]

1 minute ago, BlueboyG said:

Would disagree, Goldson is more vocal, Tav just moans.

You're just making stuff up now mate tbh.

Isn't moaning being vocal?

[BlueboyG 5,256]

2 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said:

So who would you appoint in the team who has won more?

Tav has been shite this season. However, he has won silverware, has captained us to a major European final whilst being our most influential player and generally seems to be the most vocal player on the park. He also doesn't miss games and seems to be quite popular as well as (like it or not) a hall of famer. Who is a better option?

No disrespect but I sometimes feel we play Rangers bingo after a bad result and go to the same people to point the finger at.

I personally would prefer Goldson, comes across as someone who doesnt take shit, Tav as a player i love as a captain he doesnt do it for me.

[BlueboyG 5,256]

2 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said:

🤣 How can you tell what he is saying?

His facial expressions.

[esquire8 43,013]

There would be an automatic change as I would sell Tav in the summer. 

Thanks for everything, will be a legend, but we need to move on. 

Regressed massively defensively, struggles offensively, source of the losers mentality.

[BridgeIsBlue 66,614]

Need to sign one in the summer. 

[Malkytfp1 18,618]

Just now, BlueboyG said:

His facial expressions.

I'm genuinely baffled by this. You think Tav is moany cause of his facial expressions. You've seen Goldson play right?

[Laudrupsleftfoot 11,024]

1 minute ago, BlueboyG said:

I personally would prefer Goldson, comes across as someone who doesnt take shit, Tav as a player i love as a captain he doesnt do it for me.

What does it matter though? You can and should have multiple leaders.

[Malkytfp1 18,618]

Just now, BridgeIsBlue said:

Need to sign one in the summer. 

So bring in a new player in the team and make him captain when he's just in the door?

That won't upset squad morale.

[BlueboyG 5,256]

7 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

Personally think he's really grown as a leader.

His performances, including yesterday, are far from our problem.

He seems universally respected amongst the squad and he's a good ambassador for us off the park.

Changing the captain particularly whilst he's still a first choice player will do absolutely fuck all except cause problems.

I get what your saying, however ive followed Rangers, with Greig, Butcher, Gough & Fergie etc as captains and they were real leaders who didnt take any shit, Tavs like a kitten compared to them.

[bluenoz 30,971]

You can't have threads like 'gutless, spineless, clueless... and exclude the captain from all of that. He is a major part of the problem.

As the above poster said, he is a tremendous ambassador for the club, but on the park, he has let us down a lot.

If we are having a major overhaul, it starts with changing the captaincy. Tavernier will be here as a player for the next few years, so I have to accept that because I doubt anyone would take on his contract.

I know that removing the armband from him will never happen.

[esquire8 43,013]

Just now, Malkytfp1 said:

So bring in a new player in the team and make him captain when he's just in the door?

That won't upset squad morale.

Squad should be reduced to ashes so shouldn't upset anyone. We are ideally needing summer 98 rebuild stuff.

[esquire8 43,013]

1 minute ago, bluenoz said:

You can't have threads like 'gutless, spineless, clueless... and exclude the captain from all of that. He is a major part of the problem.

As the above poster said, he is a tremendous ambassador for the club, but on the park, he has let us down a lot.

If we are having a major overhaul, it starts with changing the captaincy. Tavernier will be here as a player for the next few years, so I have to accept that because I doubt anyone would take on his contract.

I know that removing the armband from him will never happen.

I agree with everything apart from doubting anyone would buy him. A right back that's scored 100 goals would be a must have for championship/lower premier league clubs.

[The Specky Forum Organiser 65,138]

11 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

Go on

[KingKirk 25,699]

No. 

[bluenoz 30,971]

Just now, The Specky Non Liar - Sometimes said:

Go on

 

I just did.

[BlueboyG 5,256]

4 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

You can't have threads like 'gutless, spineless, clueless... and exclude the captain from all of that. He is a major part of the problem.

As the above poster said, he is a tremendous ambassador for the club, but on the park, he has let us down a lot.

If we are having a major overhaul, it starts with changing the captaincy. Tavernier will be here as a player for the next few years, so I have to accept that because I doubt anyone would take on his contract.

I know that removing the armband from him will never happen.

Nail on head.

[BridgeIsBlue 66,614]

5 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said:

So bring in a new player in the team and make him captain when he's just in the door?

That won't upset squad morale.

That squads done my morale in for the best part of 5 years. 

[Johnstone Burgh 1,642]

Won’t happen unless he’s sold. Even if he declines further next season and finds himself playing less he’ll remain captain.