King Jela 20,361 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just not seeing it with him at all. Very good assist and I like his forward thinking approach, but just don't think he's very good. First half especially he was constantly giving it away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,780 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 If we can get our money back, bite their hand off. graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA1972 9,556 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 He’s still only 22, his much maligned final ball was better today and his passing can be worked on Never hides, I hope injuries are behind him and he can kick on from here KeyserSoze and Amokachi 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,479 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 34 minutes ago, King Jela said: Just not seeing it with him at all. Very good assist and I like his forward thinking approach, but just don't think he's very good. First half especially he was constantly giving it away. Agreed, he’s playing well enough to hopefully recoup some money and see him get a move back to Turkey for example. We’re still desperate for a good, consistent, starting left back. King Jela 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will2203 821 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I must be missing something. Far too small and lightweight to be a defender. Passing woeful. Today looked like Tav on the left, constantly out of position and no where near his man. Got away with it against the shite that is Kilmarnock. Will not stand up against a decent team. Never a Rangers player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,892 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 5 minutes ago, will2203 said: I must be missing something. Far too small and lightweight to be a defender. Passing woeful. Today looked like Tav on the left, constantly out of position and no where near his man. Got away with it against the shite that is Kilmarnock. Will not stand up against a decent team. Never a Rangers player. Not comparing him clearly to these people but height at a full back is irrelevant. I’m sure Roberto Carlos, Luke Shaw, Trippier and Jordi Alba have had decent careers. And that’s just ones I can think off of the top of my head CS68 and GA1972 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa6995 3,645 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Like a breath of fresh air watching a full back take on and beat his man, spent most of the game on the front foot, excellent today and well deserved MOTM. Real Ranger, elliotblu and JograBear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,705 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, AGM_72 said: This for me. He's shown some promising signs but I think we need someone more reliable. The fact Armstrong was hooked early in the second half tells you how good a job he done on him. Said in the match thread, he's direct and gets into nice positions but can be so careless with his first touch and passing. Can quickly bounce from 'he's a player' to 'he's hopeless' over the course of a game. I do feel slightly sorry for the guy that's he's never had a proper run at the position, often due to injury. Like half of our team tbh I thought he did well today but I would be looking at hopefully punting him back, getting our money back and trying a different option and hopefully having some cash to reinvest elsewhere in the side. AGM_72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,790 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 21 minutes ago, ElBufalo20 said: Not comparing him clearly to these people but height at a full back is irrelevant. I’m sure Roberto Carlos, Luke Shaw, Trippier and Jordi Alba have had decent careers. And that’s just ones I can think off of the top of my head Is Luke Shaw not about 6’2? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Ranger 3,195 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Very hard to judge him, suffered a terrible injury and has never had a decent run of games. Thought he deserved the MOTM today but now any momentum will be lost due to the break. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JograBear 1,074 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 8 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: Is Luke Shaw not about 6’2? Shaw is 4cm taller than Yilmaz. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,790 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, JograBear said: Shaw is 4cm taller than Yilmaz. And the rest.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JograBear 1,074 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: And the rest.. Yup, you are right. Took my info from transfermarkt.... Cannavaro was 1.76m. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrshireranger 8,084 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Eric Caldow was 5'9, Tiger Shaw probably 5'5/5'6. scottyscott1963 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdnudgehold 58 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I don't know with him. He's never really had an extended run in the side and there must be reasons for that if he can't displace Barasic. Would be ironic if we sold him now as yesterday was his best game I've seen him for us and looks transformed in recent weeks. It's like something has just clicked. He's small yes but definitely wasn't bullied yesterday and you'd think a team like Kilmarnock would be the kind of game where they'd be trying that. He seems highly valued in Turkey and it's tempting to cash in but if he continues as he is might be able to add a bit more to his price and see where we are in the summer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,646 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 47 minutes ago, holdnudgehold said: I don't know with him. He's never really had an extended run in the side and there must be reasons for that if he can't displace Barasic. Would be ironic if we sold him now as yesterday was his best game I've seen him for us and looks transformed in recent weeks. It's like something has just clicked. He's small yes but definitely wasn't bullied yesterday and you'd think a team like Kilmarnock would be the kind of game where they'd be trying that. He seems highly valued in Turkey and it's tempting to cash in but if he continues as he is might be able to add a bit more to his price and see where we are in the summer. Playing well as he knows clubs are in for him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,545 Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 51 minutes ago, holdnudgehold said: I don't know with him. He's never really had an extended run in the side and there must be reasons for that if he can't displace Barasic. Would be ironic if we sold him now as yesterday was his best game I've seen him for us and looks transformed in recent weeks. It's like something has just clicked. He's small yes but definitely wasn't bullied yesterday and you'd think a team like Kilmarnock would be the kind of game where they'd be trying that. He seems highly valued in Turkey and it's tempting to cash in but if he continues as he is might be able to add a bit more to his price and see where we are in the summer. Strange. Why not keep him if he’s playing well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,758 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 His performance yesterday was good and hopefully continues so when it comes to the summer we can sell him much easier. Not the long term answer at left back sadly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdnudgehold 58 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, KeyserSoze said: Strange. Why not keep him if he’s playing well? That's the dillema. If this is how he's going to perform from now on then good. Just not seen it enough in whats been a problem position for us. On the other hand if he's got market value then maybe can get a better replacement with the money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Enclosure Row N 2,823 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 hours ago, ayrshireranger said: Eric Caldow was 5'9, Tiger Shaw probably 5'5/5'6. In an era when every other person in the country was considerably shorter too, so not really relevant. The average height of a WW1 British soldier was 5ft5" (most Scots were even smaller) and now it's 5ft 10". Most people reading this are taller than their parents and grandparents. Look around our league and see who our players are up against. Height is very much an issue for a defender. Yilmaz had some brilliant touches yesterday and contributed a huge amount, but little of it as a defender. Watched him very closely against St Johnstone and he eventually gave up going up for headers as Kucheryavyi and Phillips were head and shoulders above him every time. Might contradict myself here, but I think there is a place for his talent in our squad, but not as a full back - I don't know where else though? ayrshireranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,471 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 hours ago, ayrshireranger said: Eric Caldow was 5'9, Tiger Shaw probably 5'5/5'6. No way was tiger shaw that small ? Always thought he was a big hard player lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier blue 563 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Priority should be offloading Borna, if we can get anything with him OOC in the summer, and giving Ridvan a sustained run. Yfeko as back up until the summer and spend our budget on the more pressing priorities. The Archer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,545 Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, holdnudgehold said: That's the dillema. If this is how he's going to perform from now on then good. Just not seen it enough in whats been a problem position for us. On the other hand if he's got market value then maybe can get a better replacement with the money. Surely if he has market value it means he’s had a decent season, played well and contributed a lot. Which means we shouldn’t replace him surely. Because you know what you have and don’t really know fully what you’re getting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdnudgehold 58 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Even when he wasn't playing there has seemed to been ongoing interest in taking him back to Turkey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,089 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I thought he did really well yesterday. He tries forward passes most of the time, which mostly carry more risk. I believe thats what Clement said at the start of his tenure (?), playing with more risk going forward? KeyserSoze, GlasgowRangersFC, esquire8 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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