SFA & SPFL to introduce new measures to combat crowd trouble

[Bears r us 30,798]

Seems like a statement about a future statement. 

The Scottish FA and Scottish Professional Football League are to introduce new measures to help tackle unacceptable conduct among fans.

The governing bodies held talks after recent high-profile incidents including coin throwing, fans confronting players and sectarian singing.

The new sanctions are due to be announced this week.

One measure being considered is to give clubs the power to apply for banning orders that would cover all stadiums.

 

SPFL clubs have continually resisted calls to introduce a zero tolerance approach - known as strict liability - that could result in fines, stadium closures and even points deductions, following bad behaviour.

League rules state clubs will escape punishment if they can prove all practicable steps were taken to prevent unacceptable conduct.

[Bears r us 30,798]

1 minute ago, Bears r us said:

League rules state clubs will escape punishment if they can prove all practicable steps were taken to prevent unacceptable conduct.

I would imagine that means the tarriers will get away with anything they do and we will not. 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,725]

What a load of pish.

[Bears r us 30,798]

1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

What a load of pish.

I fear it will have things that we will not escape from but others will SEMA, but obviously hope I am wrong. 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 64,730]

Imagine including singing in that statement    

They'll push for a cap on the number of away fans imo

[Sparkle 53,590]

I get the impression that they regard the singing as a worse crime than player assaults and coin throwing.  (Unless its a sectarian coin of course)

 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,725]

"One measure being considered is to give clubs the power to apply for banning orders that would cover all stadiums."

The scum fans have recently fought with themselves, fought the polis, punched polis horses, fought opponents support, invaded pitches, aggressively fronted up to opponents players on pitch, flung coins and bottles, smashed seats, and been caught on mass (pun intended ) calling Boyd and Gerrard Orange Bastards.

Has anyone heard of any / many being identified by the club and banned by the club? No me neither. 

This is a club that go out of their way to support the rebellious element amongst their support. They're even known to welcome them and give them tours etc after fighting polis abroad.

They've never done more than banned TGB for 2 games due to fines, before welcoming them back worse than ever.

The fuck the scum are going to start engaging and grassing up their own, it's not the way of the cult. This is doomed to fail at most clubs.

Although I suppose whilst the scum refuse to play ball, and their fans get away with all sorts, we just know Rangers security will be rubbing their hands in anticipation..

[sassaaaa 11,406]

Its the sectarian singing from one particular club that pisses them off the most , they are fooling nobody........

[sandyinroyalblue 16,478]

Unacceptable behaviour in youth football still getting ignored then?

[plumbGER 24,518]

Good move by the authorities, let's weed these thugs out the game.

[ForeverAndEver 71,502]

Strict liability’s embarrassing.

[BLUEDIGNITY 33,647]

1 hour ago, Bears r us said:

I would imagine that means the tarriers will get away with anything they do and we will not. 

It's only us Unionists that are after anyway the traitorous rhat fucks ! 

[mclovin9091 1,388]

Strict liability would kill attendances as everyone would need to be filmed for the entire game in order to have irrefutable evidence that would stand up in court. 

 

Just noticed that the guy that twatted Grealish got 14 weeks, clearly the English have set the bar. Not expecting the Scottish system to even consider giving the wanker at our game any jail time but can only hope it deters the wanks that may consider doing something similar.

[Creampuff 22,628]

Our fans had better not run on to the fucking pitch. The last thing we need is to give them ammo.

[Creampuff 22,628]

4 minutes ago, mclovin9091 said:

Strict liability would kill attendances as everyone would need to be filmed for the entire game in order to have irrefutable evidence that would stand up in court. 

 

Just noticed that the guy that twatted Grealish got 14 weeks, clearly the English have set the bar. Not expecting the Scottish system to even consider giving the wanker at our game any jail time but can only hope it deters the wanks that may consider doing something similar.

The Hibs fan has only been charged with Breach of the Peace. 

[Negri's lovechild 14,055]

2 minutes ago, Creampuff said:

The Hibs fan has only been charged with Breach of the Peace. 

Crazy. The authorities in England are treating it like the very serious issue it is and are rightly so making an example of the guy. Really quickly as well, whereas up here they seem to be treating it like a bit of a jolly jape. 

God forbid the guy sang a song at Tavernier though. The English press have highlighted the issue better than the Scottish.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

Fuck don’t give our board anymore powers to throw us further under the bus. 

[ianb1547 3,767]

42 minutes ago, Creampuff said:

The Hibs fan has only been charged with Breach of the Peace. 

enough to get him the jail

as the Sheriff said,  "The nature of the offence has caused a lot of discussion and concern and is a serious matter."

I'd lay odds on 2 to 3 months inside............................................................

which, when you compare to some 'causing death by careless driving' that have suspended sentences (i.e. no jail time) is pretty severe

[Malvern 11,329]

2 hours ago, Bears r us said:

Seems like a statement about a future statement. 

The Scottish FA and Scottish Professional Football League are to introduce new measures to help tackle unacceptable conduct among fans.

The governing bodies held talks after recent high-profile incidents including coin throwing, fans confronting players and sectarian singing.

The new sanctions are due to be announced this week.

One measure being considered is to give clubs the power to apply for banning orders that would cover all stadiums.

 

SPFL clubs have continually resisted calls to introduce a zero tolerance approach - known as strict liability - that could result in fines, stadium closures and even points deductions, following bad behaviour.

League rules state clubs will escape punishment if they can prove all practicable steps were taken to prevent unacceptable conduct.

Well to be fair they lost FOCUS so find it hard to kick us in the arse so have to find another way to kick us in the balls and powder puff punch our captain.

SFA and SPFL statement is always the same thing to me, the snake oil salesman is trying to fuck me in the arse.

[siddiqi_drinker 14,635]

2 hours ago, Jeffrey said:

Imagine including singing in that statement    

They'll push for a cap on the number of away fans imo

Singing is far worse than throwing bottles, cans or coins or indeed punching people.

[shotstopper 765]

When TLB got hit with sectarian coin, what was Hibs reply? They put in a cctv camera to cover the home dugout, that's what they did. Really? What about covering their fans? About a couple of thousand -wow.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

23 minutes ago, Malvern said:

Well to be fair they lost FOCUS so find it hard to kick us in the arse so have to find another way to kick us in the balls and powder puff punch our captain.

SFA and SPFL statement is always the same thing to me, the snake oil salesman is trying to fuck me in the arse.

Yes, this just will be another stick to beat us.

There won't be any set criteria to apply it consistently, but the usual behind closed door reviews by the faceless.

Will they come out with what equates to sectarian singing beforehand and the tarriffs for it? What about political chants not allowed by UEFA? Will they be up for sanction?

 What tarriffs for coin throwing or other objects Pitch invasions, assualts by fans and so on?

I see a major stitch up on the way and we are it!

[Sweetheart 8,458]

I don't see how giving clubs the power to apply for banning orders would work fairly to solve this problem for ALL clubs.  Rangers won't be able to  escape punishment if they don't use this new banning order as the SFA/SPFL will say practicable steps were not taken to prevent unacceptable conduct.

It's forcing the club to alienate the singing section of the fan base or face punishments.   Imho, the way forward is for the club to set up a youth council and converse with the singing section of the support. 

I could also see with what has been suggested by the SFA/SPFL being manipulated by other clubs so that our club lose points leaving it impossible to get ahead for seasons to come. 

[docspiderman 1,228]

Maybe the policing factor should be looked at; Hibs  fans have previous, Easter Road has had various problems from that stand but the police were stationed at the away support. Surely past experience should have had them lined up along the home  stands.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

28 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

Yes, this just will be another stick to beat us.

There won't be any set criteria to apply it consistently, but the usual behind closed door reviews by the faceless.

Will they come out with what equates to sectarian singing beforehand and the tarriffs for it? What about political chants not allowed by UEFA? Will they be up for sanction?

 What tarriffs for coin throwing or other objects Pitch invasions, assualts by fans and so on?

I see a major stitch up on the way and we are it!

I see another way for them to make Rangers lose money.