KingKirk 25,695 Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, the brown brogue said: We saw this last season with Cummings, a small, penalty box striker does not suit the way we play. He might end up being a useful impact sub once he gets up to speed, but until then there's a big question mark over him for me. Hopefully thats the case because we cant play 2 up. Morelos is our best player and we should build the team round him IF that means defoe as a sub thats fine by me. Morelos is better uptop himself and defoe cant do that IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,186 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, KingKirk said: I hope so but we dont have enough quality behind him to pick out his runs in and around the box everything has been hit upto his head or in behind so far. Hes no the type to get involved in the build hes always on the shoulder of the last defender True but it is far too early to say he doesnt fit imo. Time to tell will be when he trains with the other guys more and is familiar with exactly what gerrard expects. Even if all his game was is playing off the shoulder and running onto through balls he will still get goals. I still say he is a top signing. Blue Avenger and eejay the dj 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,190 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 He’s just in the door, I’m not writing him off yet eejay the dj 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,111 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 We made 8 changes tonight, ofcourse he was going to come in. eejay the dj and ForeverAndEver 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRUTH82 814 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 starts on 2 of the worst pitches in any league football, give the guy a chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 My thinking is Gerrard has been after Defoe for some time now simply because of all the missed chances we have been wasting and wanted a natural goalscorer in to sort that out, so he must have an idea in mind on how to use him and Morelos in the same team, I like many others have no idea how he is going to achieve that but it would appear to me that he is willing to sacrifice Candias in order to accommodate Defoe which is unlucky on Candias and Tav is not so good without Candias backing him up, it's quite a gamble that Gerrard is going to take but I'm hoping Defoe can get up to speed quickly as we will still need someone to put away chances when they come along and although Defoe's done nothing of note so far he does seem to be making the right runs and getting into good positions so here's hoping. Blue Avenger, True Hair Bear, eejay the dj and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo1872 4,065 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Lovely ball through to lafferty tonight he can pick a pass for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algeran 30 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, KingKirk said: 2 starts and 2 truly awful team performances and two bloody awful pitches Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,915 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, KingKirk said: We are trying to get him in this team at any cost IMO No we’re not. The reason he was playing tonight was exactly why he was brought in. Morelos shouldn’t be playing 90 mins every game but we only had Sadiq so he had to. Defoe will score 10+ goals and help us in games Morelos isn’t making an impact in or if we’re chasing a goal. ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbscotty12 3,560 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Hopefully thats the case because we cant play 2 up. Morelos is our best player and we should build the team round him IF that means defoe as a sub thats fine by me. Morelos is better uptop himself and defoe cant do that IMO So we should just abandon morelos and defoe up top because the killie defeat? We should be playing 2 upfront no matter what at ibrox imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Siwel said: And that’s Jermaine Defoe’s fault because? Did he himself make the other 10 players play below par? Changing the team shape to accomidate Defoe does seem to effect overall performance. We play much better with the 4-3-3 and Defoe doesn’t fit in to that formation. BridgeIsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,316 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 He's only just in the door. It's too soon to judge him taking into consideration he's started on 2 shit pitches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, CoopsLaud said: Pretty sure with his experience defoe is good enough to adapt to the style of any team in the spfl. Can’t play the buffalos most effective loan striker role , no danger Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,279 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Stupid...even by your standards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,190 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Algeran said: and two bloody awful pitches And two teams who have parked the bus with varying success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,695 Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, CoopsLaud said: True but it is far too early to say he doesnt fit imo. Time to tell will be when he trains with the other guys more and is familiar with exactly what gerrard expects. Even if all his game was is playing off the shoulder and running onto through balls he will still get goals. I still say he is a top signing. I think hes still a top player bud I think he will get goals but he needs someone to do the leg work for him like boyd(am no comparing them btw) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,365 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Directly nvolved in the first two goals tonight. Just saying. Dan Deacon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the brown brogue 1,910 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, KingKirk said: Hopefully thats the case because we cant play 2 up. Morelos is our best player and we should build the team round him IF that means defoe as a sub thats fine by me. Morelos is better uptop himself and defoe cant do that IMO Morelos doesn't strike me as a player who wants a strike partner. He wants to be up top on his own and plays better that way. Regardless of the chances he misses he's the absolute focal point of the team and we're massively weakened without him. Will be difficult to replace him when he does move on and Defoe doesn't have the attributes to do it. Hopefully Defoes experience will be an asset off the pitch for our younger strikers to learn from, but a couple of goals against St Mirren certainly wouldn't go amiss either. Amokachi 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,186 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cedrick said: Can’t play the buffalos most effective loan striker role , no danger Well mo is better in that role for us obvs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,186 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, KingKirk said: I think hes still a top player bud I think he will get goals but he needs someone to do the leg work for him like boyd(am no comparing them btw) Fair enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,111 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, slimjim1690 said: My thinking is Gerrard has been after Defoe for some time now simply because of all the missed chances we have been wasting and wanted a natural goalscorer in to sort that out, so he must have an idea in mind on how to use him and Morelos in the same team, I like many others have no idea how he is going to achieve that but it would appear to me that he is willing to sacrifice Candias in order to accommodate Defoe which is unlucky on Candias and Tav is not so good without Candias backing him up, it's quite a gamble that Gerrard is going to take but I'm hoping Defoe can get up to speed quickly as we will still need someone to put away chances when they come along and although Defoe's done nothing of note so far he does seem to be making the right runs and getting into good positions so here's hoping. My thinking is that’s the longest sentence I’ve ever read in my life. MarcusDa Beasley, 35 Yard Dangerman and TheCutch 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,390 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Saw enough in his runs to know he will be a great asset to us when fit. He barely kicked a ball in anger all season before joining us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,950 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I watched him 3 yrs ago in Toronto and I thought he had lost a step then. He looks finished to me but I'm willing to give him time and see how he plays at Ibrox. I'm more concerned about how average Davis looks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, TMB said: Changing the team shape to accomidate Defoe does seem to effect overall performance. We play much better with the 4-3-3 and Defoe doesn’t fit in to that formation. We should not be stuck to a 4-3-3 in every game any good team should be able to change formation when required, we have played 4-3-3 almost all season and I have witnessed plenty of shite performances, it is important to make the opposition worry about how we are going to approach any given game but if we play the same formation every week it doesn't take long to Suss out how to combat it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,512 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 He hasn't played a full match yet has he? We have a style of football that leaves a gap for a poacher to finish off the sitters that nobody else has been in place to finish off. The wee man fills that gap. He will be a game winner once match fit. slimjim1690 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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