Gio Discussion Thread

[OrangeRab 2,907]

Just now, don logan said:

Largely true.........................but most on here are absolutely flailing the manager and completely revising the many good things in his favour. The teams that we pump in the SPL, do their fans pile on the manager afterwards and demand his head or is this exclusive to RM?

Yeh that’s fair. He has credit in the bank for the Europa League last year. Domestically we’ve been second best for a year now. And that trend doesn’t look like changing? Ie I don’t see us improving.

He won’t be fired on the basis of the champions league. And he doesn’t have the quality in the squad that we did last year 

[Big Al 55 9,296]

You bleat on about gulf in class, finances etc the players believe they have no chance, add to that the team selection and he’s pretty much confirming it in their head before the ball is kicked.

We go down as one of the worst records in CL history, or we at least try to compete in the remaining games.

I’d rather get beat beat 5-2 each of the remaining games, than watch the pish served up so far.

[J-Maestro 11,514]

36 minutes ago, SIRB_72 said:

No exactly the best guy to quote in regards to Europe.

Their records in terms of results are pretty similar but in context Gio's "survival" has worked better than whatever postecoglu goes.

Gio -

18 games

7 wins, 3 draws, 8 losses (38% win, 56% unbeaten)

Sparta Prague, Dortmund, Red Star, Braga, Leipzig, USG, PSV

postecoglu -

17 games

6 wins, 2 draws, 9 losses (35% win, 47% unbeaten)

Jablonec x2, AZ, Ferencvaros x2, Real Betis (dead rubber)

 

 

It's a miles better record for Gio, the only team on the level of the sides Postecoglu has beat is USG.

[OrangeRab 2,907]

38 minutes ago, SIRB_72 said:

No exactly the best guy to quote in regards to Europe.

Their records in terms of results are pretty similar but in context Gio's "survival" has worked better than whatever postecoglu goes.

Gio -

18 games

7 wins, 3 draws, 8 losses (38% win, 56% unbeaten)

Sparta Prague, Dortmund, Red Star, Braga, Leipzig, USG, PSV

postecoglu -

17 games

6 wins, 2 draws, 9 losses (35% win, 47% unbeaten)

Jablonec x2, AZ, Ferencvaros x2, Real Betis (dead rubber)

 

 

The difference is they’re improving whilst we are regressing. We played a really aggressive, press, fast counter attacking football up until the final. We were fit, solid and aggressive with a team familiar with its roles. 
 

This year we’ve switched formations to a back 5. Look unfit, scared, no press, abandoned all of our attacking shape.

celtic could have got something against Madrid. Should have beaten Shaktar. And last night undone largely because they are honking without CCV and McGregor. (Massive plus for us if they’re out injured for any length of time. Huge title swing)

Watching then you can see that they have the potential to beat a Liverpool or Madrid. Whilst we don’t. And they’re developing a play style that causes team problems. They just have some horrible players like Taylor. But if they can better them then the path looks brighter than ours. Relying on Steven Davis to protect a back 5.

Our direction of travel is backwards. Where are the green shoots?

[evenstevens 907]

1 hour ago, GersInCanada said:

Hate to quote the overweight Aussie but he was bang on with this  "If you play for survival that's all you'll ever get, you never get anywhere."

Playing for survival is all that Gio does.

This.  Actually, when I read it, my first instinct was that he was having a sly dig at us.  He probably wasn't, but the fact I thought it, shows exactly where we are right now.

[ForeverAndEver 71,955]

7 minutes ago, OrangeRab said:

The difference is they’re improving whilst we are regressing. We played a really aggressive, press, fast counter attacking football up until the final. We were fit, solid and aggressive with a team familiar with its roles. 
 

This year we’ve switched formations to a back 5. Look unfit, scared, no press, abandoned all of our attacking shape.

celtic could have got something against Madrid. Should have beaten Shaktar. And last night undone largely because they are honking without CCV and McGregor. (Massive plus for us if they’re out injured for any length of time. Huge title swing)

Watching then you can see that they have the potential to beat a Liverpool or Madrid. Whilst we don’t. And they’re developing a play style that causes team problems. They just have some horrible players like Taylor. But if they can better them then the path looks brighter than ours. Relying on Steven Davis to protect a back 5.

Our direction of travel is backwards. Where are the green shoots?

Could’ve, should’ve but never. Making excuses for the Tarriers  get a fucking grip man

[J-Maestro 11,514]

3 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Could’ve, should’ve but never. Making excuses for the Tarriers  get a fucking grip man

Don't even get the switch to the back 5 stuff too, Lundstram was basically another CB a lot of the run last season too.

[ForeverAndEver 71,955]

1 minute ago, J-Maestro said:

Don't even get the switch to the back 5 stuff too, Lundstram was basically another CB a lot of the run last season too.

Any surprise he’s one of the weirdos that think the fans got us to the final more than the manager? 

[Essandoh 21,280]

1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Any surprise he’s one of the weirdos that think the fans got us to the final more than the manager? 

GVB’s management on the way to that final was meticulous and confident

Couldn’t have deviated any further from that now

[Grundy 735]

4 minutes ago, Essandoh said:

GVB’s management on the way to that final was meticulous and confident

Couldn’t have deviated any further from that now

Good point, I wonder what's changed then ?

[BlueboyG 5,284]

I don't think many of us thought we would beat Liverpool, its the fact that our players have regressed under Gio this season, Tav, Kent, Kamara,Goldson (who was decent on Tuesday), Lundstram are a shadow of the players they were, To watch us playing across the pitch rather than getting forward is tragic to watch, Morelos and Lowry turn up at pre-season overweight and unfit, is that lack of discipline or lack of respect for their manager, only they will know, our tactics are brutal and that's why the scum humped us. Yes we are second in the league but come January fuck knows where we will be, some of our signings are ridiculous and not Rangers class, our injuries are ridiculous but that seems to be the Rangers way.

[J-Maestro 11,514]

8 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Any surprise he’s one of the weirdos that think the fans got us to the final more than the manager? 

The issue is the lack of organisation and fight in the team this season. That rests at Gio's door though.

Starting Davis and Tillman were horrendous decisions. He seemed to know when to start players unexpectedly and it would work last season, this season he's got it wrong so many times. If he wanted to be tight in the middle it should have been Lundstram and Kamara. Any of Wright, Matondo or Sakala would have been better than Tillman on the right too. Wright might have got a few fouls to give us a breather, Sakala/Matondo could have got in behind.

[Sparkle 53,755]

1 hour ago, MadSasa said:

You fuck up you arsehole, got fuck all to do with you

Cut out the abuse 

[The Godfather 72,436]

13 minutes ago, Grundy said:

Good point, I wonder what's changed then ?

His own team now and his way of football is now in full flow.

Feyenoord fans warned us how poor it was, now we are seeing it first hand. 

[SIRB_72 4,076]

47 minutes ago, OrangeRab said:

The difference is they’re improving whilst we are regressing. We played a really aggressive, press, fast counter attacking football up until the final. We were fit, solid and aggressive with a team familiar with its roles. 
 

This year we’ve switched formations to a back 5. Look unfit, scared, no press, abandoned all of our attacking shape.

celtic could have got something against Madrid. Should have beaten Shaktar. And last night undone largely because they are honking without CCV and McGregor. (Massive plus for us if they’re out injured for any length of time. Huge title swing)

Watching then you can see that they have the potential to beat a Liverpool or Madrid. Whilst we don’t. And they’re developing a play style that causes team problems. They just have some horrible players like Taylor. But if they can better them then the path looks brighter than ours. Relying on Steven Davis to protect a back 5.

Our direction of travel is backwards. Where are the green shoots?

Go back and look at Red Star away, Braga away and Leipzig away. Hardly exciting stuff.

We used a back 5 in the second half against Dortmund and away to Leipzig. Our worst performance in Europe this season was either USG or Ajax away. One with a back 5 and one with a back 4. 

As for them they haven't improved in Europe. They don't win despite the sand dancing pish and the "should have and would haves". We had our own game like that against Napoli that was undone by a sending off, we could have been ahead a couple of times and contained Napoli a lot better than Liverpool or Ajax have. 

They have potential to beat Real and Liverpool? Cumon mate. You can critique us without blowing steam up their arse. Like I said before you commented, Gio's caution has provided more results than "ange-ball" in Europe. In fact for all celtic's potential they lost 3-0 to Real and we only lost 2-0 down at Anfield. In fact Gio's back 5 in Leipzig gave us a result to take back to Ibrox that we could still be in the tie and beat them...compare that to celtic last night, if it's a two legged tie they're done.

Overall to say their improving isn't exactly true, it's the same pish as last season with them. All fancy shite just to be undone by quality sides who give them 2/3 hammer blows in the last 30 minutes.

Replacing players like taylor etc. They have the same problems as us, their budget, like ours, restricts them to having a certain type of player in their squad. They won't have 22 starters sitting there and neither will we.

Why have a dig at Steven Davis as well? Surely, by your logic, if celtic can go and replace greg taylor then we could do the same with Davis in the summer?

[GersInCanada 7,775]

Fair enough if you disagree with a poster but Bears abusing each other does not sit well with me.

 

[Big Al 55 9,296]

5 minutes ago, GersInCanada said:

Fair enough if you disagree with a poster but Bears abusing each other does not sit well with me.

 

Fuck off snowflake 😜

[MadSasa 245]

23 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

Cut out the abuse 

You’re quite happy for anyone else to say what they want, what have I said that’s any different?

[J-Maestro 11,514]

10 minutes ago, MadSasa said:

You’re quite happy for anyone else to say what they want, what have I said that’s any different?

That you blocked someone with mind powers.

[left winger 14,462]

2 hours ago, graeme_4 said:

I don’t believe I said that…

There’s a world of difference between suggesting a teenager hasn’t taken his chance, and ripping up contracts and youth systems.

Folk want to believe in youth, and I’ve no issue with that, but you can’t be playing Lowry (who’s attitude was apparently stinking) and McCann (who hasn’t played well yet) as your CMs over the likes of Jack and Lundstram at a club like ours.

No, you didn’t say that, and I’m sure you’re fully aware I didn’t say you did (let’s not go further down this particular line of patter, though). You did though say he was pish against the worst time in team in the league. Now, while we can all have different opinions, to just come out with ‘he’s pish’ is in itself ‘pish’.

It’s interesting that you say ‘you can’t’ be playing youth over inexperienced players. Why not? If they’re good enough, or can be good enough, why not? Especially, when some of these experienced players, e.g. Lundstram have been very poor this season.

Then ‘at a club like ours?’. Why can’t we play youth at our club? Because our management is too scared? Because we have the most fickle support in the world? Because we prefer to whine about other teams wanting to kick them? Why not?

[2nd Flute 14,036]

Lovely to see @MadSasa getting along swimmingly with other posters 

[Toronto2Glasgow 1,828]

Gio causing chaos in the forums now .. time to go

[Sparkle 53,755]

33 minutes ago, MadSasa said:

You’re quite happy for anyone else to say what they want, what have I said that’s any different?

You’re worse

[MadSasa 245]

Just now, Sparkle said:

You’re worse

How do you delete an account then

[NeoGeo7 10,611]

47 minutes ago, The Godfather said:

His own team now and his way of football is now in full flow.

Feyenoord fans warned us how poor it was, now we are seeing it first hand. 

Couldn't have summed it up any more concisely than this.

Gio was not coming here to play the Gerrard/Beale way, it was just a transitional phase to what he wants to play, the fucking horseshoe!