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[theblueoysterbar 20,194]

22 minutes ago, The Dude said:

FIFA standards which need to be met for SFA licensing. 

https://www.fifa.com/technical/football-technology/standards/football-turf/fifa-quality-programme-for-football-turf

That surface at rugby park complies with FIFA standards? Fuck me.

[The Dude 20,027]

2 minutes ago, theblueoysterbar said:

That surface at rugby park complies with FIFA standards? Fuck me.

Aye - and the standards for Astro are considerably higher than grass where it basically just needs to be kinda level and drain ok. 

[CXB 4,668]

45 minutes ago, psb07158 said:

What’s the standard and who regulates it?

 

JW Carpets

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53 minutes ago, The Dude said:

FIFA standards which need to be met for SFA licensing. 

https://www.fifa.com/technical/football-technology/standards/football-turf/fifa-quality-programme-for-football-turf

...but who actually monitors and regulates the pitch at Killie? 

I've played on that park for a work / charity thing, it has really small tears in the pitch in some places. I don't believe for a second it complies with the required standards. I'm sure when it was laid, it did - but we're a few years on from when they put it down, aren't we? 

They also never, ever water it - which is probably a bigger issue than the pitch itself. That's what causes the ball (and boots) to get stuck. 

[hammer93 15,462]

5 hours ago, The Dude said:

Plenty of our fans also moaned about the pitch.

This about them?

Why you trying to level things for them?

[Bad Robot 21,513]

Us and them had a chance to put up a vote to get rid of them and but no one said nowt so there’s no point moaning about it now. We should have put up the vote and I’d love to know why we were silent about it.

[The Dude 20,027]

22 minutes ago, psb07158 said:

...but who actually monitors and regulates the pitch at Killie? 

I've played on that park for a work / charity thing, it has really small tears in the pitch in some places. I don't believe for a second it complies with the required standards. I'm sure when it was laid, it did - but we're a few years on from when they put it down, aren't we? 

They also never, ever water it - which is probably a bigger issue than the pitch itself. That's what causes the ball (and boots) to get stuck. 

Checked annually. Will have been done over the summer/towards the end of last season if there was no plans to relay it. Was genuinely surprised at how much detail they go into when doing licensing checks for 23/24 awards. 
 

Not watering it/brushing the crumb and keeping it pretty much level across the pitch can fuck it. 
 

[Vision 16,894]

[The Dude 20,027]

21 minutes ago, hammer93 said:

This about them?

Why you trying to level things for them?

Level things? Nah, just find excuses about the pitch pathetic. Guys earning five figures a week and they can’t play on a certain type of pitch. Load of bollocks imo

[RockwellGers 15,253]

Coming back in here to have one last snigger before I turn in

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[KingKirk 26,460]

I see Rodgers has said they need to add quality match winners before the window shuts. Not gonna get carried away but what a strange stance to take on a team that won the lot last year.  Hopefully 1 or 2 start turning against him ASAP. 

[mitre_mouldmaster 21,511]

1 hour ago, The Dude said:

Level things? Nah, just find excuses about the pitch pathetic. Guys earning five figures a week and they can’t play on a certain type of pitch. Load of bollocks imo

Of course it does.

If it didn't and there was no benefit in actual grass, every club I'm the world would have astro instead of grass.

Do you suggest we should dig up Ibrox and instal a full plastic pitch? If not, why not?

Why is astro not used in the EPL?

Players who are particularly technical, with close control, the more skilled players who play for better teams will struggle on an artificial pitch more than they will on a grass pitch for the majority of the season.

The artificial surface will suit teams who hoof the ball and take the pitch out of the equation, especially when they play the technical teams who pay their players far more.

This does not make them favourites when they play us, but it narrows the gap. To deny this is just a bit daft.

It's a known tactic to make your pitch as shite as possible when playing a technical opponent to narrow the skill gap and introduce more unpredictability.

[ger4life_1872 30,485]

5 hours ago, psb07158 said:

...but who actually monitors and regulates the pitch at Killie? 

I've played on that park for a work / charity thing, it has really small tears in the pitch in some places. I don't believe for a second it complies with the required standards. I'm sure when it was laid, it did - but we're a few years on from when they put it down, aren't we? 

They also never, ever water it - which is probably a bigger issue than the pitch itself. That's what causes the ball (and boots) to get stuck. 

I agree the pitches should be in the bin but surprisingly they had the sprinklers on at ht in their game yesterday 

[JackAlex93 12,498]

They are hurting badly 🤣

[TBagalag 727]

7 hours ago, The Dude said:

There is - and has been for years. 

Maybe the bar needs raised then - as others have noted, I’m amazed Killie’s surface meets these requirements.

[The Dude 20,027]

4 hours ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:

Of course it does.

If it didn't and there was no benefit in actual grass, every club I'm the world would have astro instead of grass.

Do you suggest we should dig up Ibrox and instal a full plastic pitch? If not, why not?

Why is astro not used in the EPL?

Players who are particularly technical, with close control, the more skilled players who play for better teams will struggle on an artificial pitch more than they will on a grass pitch for the majority of the season.

The artificial surface will suit teams who hoof the ball and take the pitch out of the equation, especially when they play the technical teams who pay their players far more.

This does not make them favourites when they play us, but it narrows the gap. To deny this is just a bit daft.

It's a known tactic to make your pitch as shite as possible when playing a technical opponent to narrow the skill gap and introduce more unpredictability.

Compete myth

[Blue Nosed Babe 21,415]

6 hours ago, Vision said:

Play acting cunt

[Finny 6,103]

7 hours ago, The Dude said:

Aye - and the standards for Astro are considerably higher than grass where it basically just needs to be kinda level and drain ok. 

Mate you argue some strange topics. Fair enough you brought up the stats to show we have done well on astro. Which I was surprised at in fairness but to be debating now that astro turf is decent enough for professional football is a lot of shite and you are 100% disagreeing for the sake of it. 

[The Dude 20,027]

Just now, Finny said:

Mate you argue some strange topics. Fair enough you brought up the stats to show we have done well on astro. Which I was surprised at in fairness but to be debating now that astro turf is decent enough for professional football is a lot of shite and you are 100% disagreeing for the sake of it. 

Absolute nonsense. 

[Finny 6,103]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

Absolute nonsense. 

Would you be happy if Ibrox was a plastic pitch? 

[The Dude 20,027]

1 minute ago, Finny said:

Would you be happy if Ibrox was a plastic pitch? 

Aye. I wouldn’t have any problems whatsoever if we replaced the Ibrox pitch with an artificial one. 
 

[Finny 6,103]

3 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Aye. I wouldn’t have any problems whatsoever if we replaced the Ibrox pitch with an artificial one. 
 

I can guarantee you that your the only person on this forum who would agree with this. 100% disagreeing for arguments sake. Off you fuck. 

[The Dude 20,027]

1 minute ago, Finny said:

I can guarantee you that you’re the only person on this forum who would agree with this. 100% disagreeing for arguments sake. Off you fuck. 

More absolute pish. 
 

[chris182 6,525]

13 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Aye. I wouldn’t have any problems whatsoever if we replaced the Ibrox pitch with an artificial one.