Priority for Michael Beale

[bluenoz 30,848]

7 minutes ago, AberfeldyBlue said:

make Goldson captain

I would love that to happen. It would be a ballsy move by Beale but I think his relationship with Tav is good.

[AberfeldyBlue 1,550]

4 minutes ago, .Williamson. said:

Make an injured player the captain

because that is the criteria... f me

[graeme_4 34,537]

22 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

I’ve probably been Morelos’s biggest fan on here but he’s chucked it.

I suspect he already has his next club already lined up.

I’d be fairly surprised if any half decent club went near him. He’s been disgusting on and off the park this season.

[.Williamson. 82,253]

13 minutes ago, Essandoh said:

Isn’t he due back after the break?

For the record, I don’t agree with changing captain

Everyone will be back at some point after the break.

Me either.

[.Williamson. 82,253]

11 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

I would love that to happen. It would be a ballsy move by Beale but I think his relationship with Tav is good.

Destroying Tav mentally when we are hoping for a lift from the players would be incredibly stupid. They did it with Mings at Villa and it was arguably the moment of no return for Gerrard

[AberfeldyBlue 1,550]

8 minutes ago, .Williamson. said:

Destroying Tav mentally when we are hoping for a lift from the players would be incredibly stupid. They did it with Mings at Villa and it was arguably the moment of no return for Gerrard

it would free tav and make him a new player

 

he does not want it

[.Williamson. 82,253]

2 minutes ago, AberfeldyBlue said:

it would free tav and make him a new player

 

he does not want it

Of course he wants it ffs

[bluenoz 30,848]

12 minutes ago, .Williamson. said:

Destroying Tav mentally when we are hoping for a lift from the players would be incredibly stupid. They did it with Mings at Villa and it was arguably the moment of no return for Gerrard

Or we could stay with Tav who goes missing when the chips are down.

He will never be a true leader. 

I agree, changing him could have a detrimental effect and I doubt Beale is even considering it.

[Johnnyem 237]

I think his biggest priority is to get all the doubters on his side and winning games is the answer to that.

[BlueSuedeSambas 53,792]

The changing the captaincy shout is one of the biggest clichés around. It’s another thing that elements of our support are seemingly obsessed with because Advocaat did it with Amoruso and Ferguson over 20 years ago.
 

[AberfeldyBlue 1,550]

Just now, BlueSuedeSambas said:

The changing the captaincy shout is one of the biggest clichés around. It’s another thing that elements of our support are seemingly obsessed with because Advocaat did it with Amoruso and Ferguson over 20 years ago.
 

yeah and that is what the vast majority of our support remember

 

[gman 211]

Re teach McGregor how to dive for shots again. 

[.Williamson. 82,253]

5 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

Or we could stay with Tav who goes missing when the chips are down.

He will never be a true leader. 

I agree, changing him could have a detrimental effect and I doubt Beale is even considering it.

I like Tav, but he does go missing at times, there’s no denying it. It’s a strange one because sometimes he is captain material, like last season in Europe especially nobody could deny his form or role as captain.

It was actually being openly discussed leading up to the EL final if we won it would he be regarded as up there with John Greig. That might seem silly now because of his current form and the fact we didn’t win it, but it was being discussed. 

He’s hall of fame when he retires anyway, I don’t think it’s really a debate now. 

[.Williamson. 82,253]

Just now, gman said:

Re teach McGregor how to dive for shots again. 

Teach McGregor how to wind back time and lose 10-15 years 

[SPWF 8,237]

2 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

The changing the captaincy shout is one of the biggest clichés around. It’s another thing that elements of our support are seemingly obsessed with because Advocaat did it with Amoruso and Ferguson over 20 years ago.
 

You can instantly discount the opinion of anyone who makes that shout tbh. Utterly clueless. 

[bluenoz 30,848]

1 minute ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

The changing the captaincy shout is one of the biggest clichés around. It’s another thing that elements of our support are seemingly obsessed with because Advocaat did it with Amoruso and Ferguson over 20 years ago.
 

Nonsense. You don't think players like Jordan Henderson or Thiago Silva (Brazil) have a huge influence on their teams?

Not having a true leader has been half our problem but tbh, it's been talked to death on here.

[Tiger Shaw 30,493]

Ban fish fingers 

[.Williamson. 82,253]

5 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

Nonsense. You don't think players like Jordan Henderson or Thiago Silva (Brazil) have a huge influence on their teams?

Not having a true leader has been half our problem but tbh, it's been talked to death on here.

I said it in the WC thread on Friday evening but if you listen to commentators talk about Henderson play for England or Liverpool you have to assume he made it in football due to his ability to speak to people.

I have never heard his actual footballing ability praised, it’s always that he is able to talk to players around him and motivate them

[BlueSuedeSambas 53,792]

14 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

Nonsense. You don't think players like Jordan Henderson or Thiago Silva (Brazil) have a huge influence on their teams?

Not having a true leader has been half our problem but tbh, it's been talked to death on here.

 

Steven Gerrard is arguably one of the best captains there’s been in modern football. I’m sure he knows what makes a good captain better than any of us do so if Tav was good enough for him, and the multiple other managers he’s had the armband under, then he’s still good enough for me for now, especially when we have far bigger issues to address.

I think it’s laughable that people constantly say we haven’t had a true leader for years then suggest moving the armband from Tav to Goldson, who have both been at the club for years already but saying that if it was up to people on here then we would have had about five captains in the past half a decade because people have wanted Tav, Goldson, Lundstram, Jack and McGregor to have it at various different points. 

If Beale decides to make a captaincy change, which I don’t think he will, it should be to somebody who’s not currently at the club, and that means leaving Tav as captain until the Summer at the earliest for me.

 

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23 minutes ago, .Williamson. said:

Of course he wants it ffs

Genuinely believe Tav loves being our Captain.

If he was stripped he would be fucking heartbroken. 

[BlueVanguard 6,629]

Just now, BlueSuedeSambas said:

 

Steven Gerrard is arguably one of the best captains there’s been in modern football. I’m sure he knows what makes a good captain better than any of us do so if Tav was good enough for him, and the multiple other managers he’s had the armband under, then he’s still good enough for me for now, especially when we have far bigger issues to address.

I think it’s laughable that people constantly say we haven’t had a true leader for years then suggest moving the armband from Tav to Goldson, who have both been at the club for years already but dying that if it was up to people on here then we would have had about five captains in the past half a decade because people have wanted Tav, Goldson, Lundstram, Jack and McGregor to have it at various different points. 

If Beale decides to make a captaincy change, which I don’t think he will, it should be to somebody who’s not currently at the club, and that means leaving Tav as captain until the Summer at the earliest for me.

 

This.
 

[gmcf 34,234]

Fitness but equally important is attitude . We have to get back to SG days and start bossing teams and stop being too easily intimidated . 

[Bears r us 30,798]

2 hours ago, Dan Deacon said:

Sorting his desk etc putting up family pictures in office

[NorthernLights 2,526]

If any of our players can’t lead without the armband then they don’t deserve to be captain. It’s largely a ceremonial role. 

[Laudrupsleftfoot 10,877]

Lol at the calls for Tav to be replaced as captain.

Fuck me, some people really are utter mongos.