*****The Official Dundee v Rangers Match Thread*****

[AberfeldyBlue 1,618]

Here is the rain just now and its moving North and East. Should just be about to start to rain in Glasgow. The heaviest rain for the Dundee area will be around Kick-off

 

[esquire8 43,259]

15 minutes ago, shirob1213 said:

I live 5 mins from Dens there has been no overnight rain.If they keep hired covers on game will be on.

The unwashed took their covers back on Sunday. They've only got the little blue covers for the problem parts of the pitch. 

The issue ain't the pitch inspection at the convenient time of 11am, its the rain chucking down between 11am and kickoff.

[shirob1213 163]

3 minutes ago, Jakes Pal said:

Covers have to come off a couple of hours before the game. Given the seeming state of the surface, ten minutes of rain on it will turn it back to swamp, never mind a couple of hours, and of course the damage that would be caused once play starts and it is probably still raining. Abandoned before half time if that happens. Basically the only chance I see of this game going ahead and actually playing to a finish is if the weather forecasters have got it wrong and it stays dry in Dundee all day.

Apart from rain yesterday morning weathers been fine here good drying wind and no rain since 1pm yesterday need torrential rain today to have it cancelled.

[Colin Traive 23,035]

The reason that a minimum standard of stadium was established for entry into the top tier was to prevent clubs neglecting their grounds and using every penny on wages to improve their team.

In Dundee’s case, it’s not structural failings but the playing surface.

Basically the whole surface needs lifted, proper drainage installed (under soil heating probably a luxury too far) and then relaid with professional maintenance to keep it playable (as a minimum) except in biblical weather.

They've obviously spent heehaw on the surface with the money presumably spent on playing staff.

For that reason, they should be getting hammered by the SPFL.

[DrLaudrup 4,719]

2 minutes ago, Colin Traive said:

The reason that a minimum standard of stadium was established for entry into the top tier was to prevent clubs neglecting their grounds and using every penny on wages to improve their team.

In Dundee’s case, it’s not structural failings but the playing surface.

Basically the whole surface needs lifted, proper drainage installed (under soil heating probably a luxury too far) and then relaid with professional maintenance to keep it playable (as a minimum) except in biblical weather.

They've obviously spent heehaw on the surface with the money presumably spent on playing staff.

For that reason, they should be getting hammered by the SPFL.

Agree with most of that. Dundee actually have undersoil heating and have for some time. The issue is the drainage and I agree it seems this has been neglected for some time as the overall surface quality is far below what would be expected in a top tier side  

 

[G.E.C. 19,001]

Good morning how is life 

[RFC55 109,759]

17 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

The unwashed took their covers back on Sunday. They've only got the little blue covers for the problem parts of the pitch. 

The issue ain't the pitch inspection at the convenient time of 11am, its the rain chucking down between 11am and kickoff.

Now not to start till 2pm apparently 

[esquire8 43,259]

5 minutes ago, Colin Traive said:

The reason that a minimum standard of stadium was established for entry into the top tier was to prevent clubs neglecting their grounds and using every penny on wages to improve their team.

In Dundee’s case, it’s not structural failings but the playing surface.

Basically the whole surface needs lifted, proper drainage installed (under soil heating probably a luxury too far) and then relaid with professional maintenance to keep it playable (as a minimum) except in biblical weather.

They've obviously spent heehaw on the surface with the money presumably spent on playing staff.

For that reason, they should be getting hammered by the SPFL.

They're spending fuck all on Dens because they want to move. You'll probably be  shocked to hear that they have undersoil heating installed already, long time ago. They were given the top end of five figures as a possible fix to thr drainage issue but sacked the groundsmen instead. They don't want to put money into Dens.

[esquire8 43,259]

1 minute ago, RFC55 said:

Now not to start till 2pm apparently 

Any rainfall between the inspection and kickoff will fuck up the pitch. Its a mess.

[AberfeldyBlue 1,618]

That is the rain arrived in Stirling and looking to hit Dundee around midday

[RFC55 109,759]

8 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

Any rainfall between the inspection and kickoff will fuck up the pitch. Its a mess.

We all know the pitch is a mess, it won’t be off if there’s a bit of rain at 2pm. It would need to be from now onwards to probably have this off 

[Colin Traive 23,035]

4 minutes ago, RFC55 said:

We all know the pitch is a mess, it won’t be off if there’s a bit of rain at 2pm. It would need to be from now onwards to probably have this off 

…which is exactly as forecast.

If it’s raining at 2pm and it looks like staying on, the only responsible thing to do is call it off.

[RFC55 109,759]

Just now, Colin Traive said:

…which is exactly as forecast.

If it’s raining at 2pm and it looks like staying on, the only responsible thing to do is call it off.

So it’ll be on then. 

[Badger 8,804]

1 minute ago, RFC55 said:

We all know the pitch is a mess, it won’t be off if there’s a bit of rain at 2pm. It would need to be from now onwards to probably have this off 

There's still 20-25mm of rain forecast between now and midnight. 

It's not biblical amounts, but that is a heavy day of rain in keeping with the yellow weather warning in place.

(Monitoring weather forecasts is a small part of the day job)

[BlueAvenger 10,423]

Just on the radio, that tosser from Dundee is confident the game will go ahead but if it doesn’t then it will be played next week ! 

[rangersross 6,540]

No chance it's going ahead. 

[Moody Blue Legend 61,834]

Badger Batty.

[ForeverAndEver 71,955]

How shite are weather people?

[AberfeldyBlue 1,618]

3 minutes ago, Badger said:

There's still 20-25mm of rain forecast between now and midnight. 

It's not biblical amounts, but that is a heavy day of rain in keeping with the yellow weather warning in place.

(Monitoring weather forecasts is a small part of the day job)

that amount of rainfall and the weather warning is for SW Scotland and has no bearing on Dundee

[KingKirk 25,779]

This is going to pass the 11am inspection and fail later on. 

[The Godfather 72,434]

2 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

This is going to pass the 11am inspection and fail later on. 

Cheers Meg

[SkylineBlue 24,025]

What we need is Matt Le Tissier's government weather controls to keep the rain away form Dens Park till about 10 O'clock tonight.

[blueballss 2,972]

That's rain starting up here

[OrangeRab 2,907]

Pretty confident it will go ahead. Don’t see it being considerably worse than it was for the Motherwell game that also rained the day before.

They’ve had 4 dry days since. 

It will rain later and the pitch will be shocking and a leveller.

But the authorities rather that than be seen to give us any perceived advantage and risk the frenzy that would come from conspiracy fc.

[folkestoneger 8,263]

18 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

This is going to pass the 11am inspection and fail later on. 

From the sky sports pictures it won’t even pass now. Throw the ball up and it doesn’t bounce it just sticks in the mud.

Now way that’s a suitable surface for professional football.