Clement: I had other expectations when I came.

[Amokachi 3,306]

6 minutes ago, PromDeAnglais said:

To be fair, if Koppen is sitting on his arse all day twiddling his thumbs waiting for teams to bid for Tav, Goldson, Davies, Lammers, Dessers, Matondo and Scott Wright et al before he can do his job and recruit then maybe it's best he leaves.

Koppen going to the board with lowball offers/payment plans from clubs for the above players and the board rejecting it. 
Then even if they agreed, the player has every right to sit tight as per contract. 
Player trading model my arse.  

 

[Loyal72 13,041]

44 minutes ago, hammer93 said:

Clement has already stated that Nsiala & Igamane  are projects and won't be starters

If they can't start ahead of the dross we have, why the fuck are they here 😂

[graeme_4 36,577]

32 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

Last time a Rangers manager was backed was when King in charge. 

Always said EH was a white elephant built to inflate those in the boardrooms egos. Those seat things outside EH should be destroyed. Simon Jordan saying about the board celebrating the cinch court stuff is completely believable.

Then blaming Copland works on a guy who isn't even here anymore, whilst sacking the guy who was in the background, is a cherry on top. 

Parks and Bennett aren't fit to run the club and don't have the money to do so either but they will be damned to give up that position. Doing everything they can to keep the clubs biggest shareholder out the club. 

We are run by complete narcissistic charlatans.

Thats simply not true.

Many managers have been ‘backed’ at different points, Gerrard for 55, Gio’s first summer and Beale. Money has been spent, and big wages have been given.

Problem is it’s been spend on bang average, injury prone or overpaid shite.

We had the biggest wage budget in Scotland last season, and have easily half a dozen players (even after getting rid of Roofe and Lundstram) on over £20k per week.

Awful recruitment has come home to roost, and PC unfortunately has to wheel and deal if he wants change.  

[hammer93 15,328]

1 minute ago, Loyal72 said:

If they can't start ahead of the dross we have, why the fuck are they here 😂

Because Clement was probably believing that we would be moving players out and bringing players in that would be first team ready....he may now not have an option but to start fielding them

[KingKirk 26,245]

Gaffer will be gone after August if hearts & that mob beat us along with failing to make champions league. Then what do we do because if you're any decent manager you're not working for this board. 

[KBOO72 4,653]

38 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said:

Any anger is going to need to be aimed straight at this board who have put in us this position. 

There will inevitably be some in our support if results go badly that will demand a new manager but a new manager will still be stuck with the same players who have failed previous management's. 

This isn't going to be a short term fix. I honestly feel like we're back to what it was like when Gerrard first came in. 

We're in a much worse position than when Gerrard arrived. 

The general feeling among the fans couldn't be more different. The buzz after Gerrard was appointed compared to the apathy and resignation at the moment is frightening. 

Nevermind the finances. 

[Laudrupsleftfoot 11,964]

14 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

Gaffer will be gone after August if hearts & that mob beat us along with failing to make champions league. Then what do we do because if you're any decent manager you're not working for this board. 

If Hearts beat us he’s not good enough himself.

Cunts are making a hell of a lot of excuses for him already when his results objectively are no better than the last couple we’ve had in.

[BlueKnight87 17,723]

3 minutes ago, KBOO72 said:

We're in a much worse position than when Gerrard arrived. 

The general feeling among the fans couldn't be more different. The buzz after Gerrard was appointed compared to the apathy and resignation at the moment is frightening. 

Nevermind the finances. 

Definitely agree the mood going into this season is dramatically different 

I was thinking more Gerrard was saddled with the the shite Pedro was allowed to go and sign.

Now Clement has the crap beale signed and longer term failures to try and get punted before we can can add new players. 

[Valance1690 4,043]

2 minutes ago, OrangeRab said:

Diomande signing wasn’t nuts at all.

if we’d signed 3 diomandes equivalent instead of Davies, Dessers, Lammers

We’d have a young quality core to the squad for this year. And potentially some big transfer fees to come 

We frontloaded our budget to spend 4.5 million on a guy from a mid table Danish team, for that money we need a match winner or somebody who's name is first on the team sheet...Diomande is neither.

 

[BlueSuedeSambas 55,756]

28 minutes ago, KBOO72 said:

We're in a much worse position than when Gerrard arrived. 

The general feeling among the fans couldn't be more different. The buzz after Gerrard was appointed compared to the apathy and resignation at the moment is frightening. 

Nevermind the finances. 

In terms of hype it’s not even close, but in terms of where we actually are as a club on the park we are still miles ahead of where we were then.

When Gerrard arrived we we were coming off the back of a season where we finished 3rd in the league, we got knocked out of the Europa League by Progres, celtic put 9 goals past us in two games in the space of a fortnight in April, we had three managers in a season and we were relying on guys like Wes Foderingham, Declan John, Jason Holt and Josh Windass to be regular starters for us.

[BlueSuedeSambas 55,756]

7 minutes ago, Valance1690 said:

We frontloaded our budget to spend 4.5 million on a guy from a mid table Danish team, for that money we need a match winner or somebody who's name is first on the team sheet...Diomande is neither.

 

You aren’t guaranteed that for a 4.5 million anymore though.

[B1872 21,797]

2 hours ago, Scottywellhousetb said:

It's really tiring following Rangers, every fucking week it's something else negative, I'm honestly getting towards a point where I can't be fucked with it anymore, it's fucking draining, what happens between now and next season will determine whether I renew my ticket going forward, working in England long term I was always going to miss games but all this shite recently is pushing me to just fuck it off and just go to the odd game now and then when I'm up the road. 

A couple of my mates have sold their season tickets and they’ve been going for about 20 odd years. They have just had enough of the club and are wanting to start spending more time with their kids. For the majority of us it’s a way of life and it’s not just the game on the Saturday it’s every day as it takes over your life. Must admit this is the first time I’ve dreaded the start of the season and I just feel numb to it all. I’ve had my season ticket since 2002 but I’m getting to the point that I’m questioning whether to keep it on next year. I fucking hate the current owners of the club. My blood is actually boiling with what the cunts are doing to my club.

[MacBoyd 5,855]

9 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

If Hearts beat us he’s not good enough himself.

Cunts are making a hell of a lot of excuses for him already when his results objectively are no better than the last couple we’ve had in.

Really frustrating me this. Its like clement isn't to blame for anything yet beale was to blame for everything. Beale actually had a much better record in the league that's the reality.

[MacBoyd 5,855]

13 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

If Hearts beat us he’s not good enough himself.

Cunts are making a hell of a lot of excuses for him already when his results objectively are no better than the last couple we’ve had in.

Really frustrating me this. Its like clement isn't to blame for anything yet beale was to blame for everything. Beale actually had a much better record in the league that's the reality.

[OrangeRab 3,271]

8 minutes ago, Valance1690 said:

We frontloaded our budget to spend 4.5 million on a guy from a mid table Danish team, for that money we need a match winner or somebody who's name is first on the team sheet...Diomande is neither.

 

Diomande will be one of the first names on the team sheet this year. 

We get 10-15 million to spend each year.

If we had adopted a model of signing 3 quality Diomande’s each season.

We’d have a lean, core quality side aged between 21-25 by now. With sellable assets.

And the ability to supplement with experience where need be.

Diomande is the opposite of the reason we are where we are.

We need more Diomande and Tillmans and less expensive contracts for average older championship players. Or 28year old journeyman strikers.

[Valance1690 4,043]

8 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

You don’t get that for 4.5 million anymore though.

99% of the tarrier squad is built with signings under that fee & even outwith them, other teams seem to manage it. We seem to be a standout in recent years where we spend big fees/wages for players who just aren't good enough. 

 

[Rowley Birkin 9,791]

3 minutes ago, MacBoyd said:

Really frustrating me this. Its like clement isn't to blame for anything yet beale was to blame for everything. Beale actually had a much better record in the league that's the reality.

cmon to fuck are you saying beale is better than clement? these shitty players we have is down to beale

if clement had came in a year earlier and got that money we would be in a far better place

[B1872 21,797]

17 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

If Hearts beat us he’s not good enough himself.

Cunts are making a hell of a lot of excuses for him already when his results objectively are no better than the last couple we’ve had in.

I’ll tell you one thing, Clement is 10 times the manager fucking Michael Beale is.

[Valance1690 4,043]

Just now, OrangeRab said:

Diomande will be one of the first names on the team sheet this year. 

We get 10-15 million to spend each year.

If we had adopted a model of signing 3 quality Diomande’s each season.

We’d have a lean, core quality side aged between 21-25 by now. With sellable assets.

And the ability to supplement with experience where need be.

Diomande is the opposite of the reason we are where we are.

We need more Diomande and Tillmans and less expensive contracts for average older championship players. Or 28year old journeyman strikers.

That last part I 100% agree with and Tillman's deal was a good one overall for the club. Diomande might kick on and be a class player for us, at the moment though that 4.5 million looks far too high for the type of player we've got. 

[BlueSuedeSambas 55,756]

1 minute ago, MacBoyd said:

Really frustrating me this. Its like clement isn't to blame for anything yet beale was to blame for everything. Beale actually had a much better record in the league that's the reality.

Beale gets blamed more because he was given the freedom to spend the guts of 15 million on garbage players who he felt were first team quality, and then overseeing one of the worst starts to a campaign in living memory on the back of it.

Until Clement (who has a trophy in the bank) has that same luxury and is given a similar “blank canvas” to work from you can’t compare them fairly, but ultimately people will if the season doesn’t start as expected, because that’s just how football goes.

[ForeverAndEver 73,356]

5 minutes ago, MacBoyd said:

Really frustrating me this. Its like clement isn't to blame for anything yet beale was to blame for everything. Beale actually had a much better record in the league that's the reality.

Beale had half a season of games meaning absolutely fuck all 👍

[beararse 6,765]

57 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said:

King isn't the answer to our current situation.   He just wants his investment back.

Quickest way for him to get his investment back is success on the park.

[beararse 6,765]

7 minutes ago, OrangeRab said:

Diomande will be one of the first names on the team sheet this year. 

We get 10-15 million to spend each year.

If we had adopted a model of signing 3 quality Diomande’s each season.

We’d have a lean, core quality side aged between 21-25 by now. With sellable assets.

And the ability to supplement with experience where need be.

Diomande is the opposite of the reason we are where we are.

We need more Diomande and Tillmans and less expensive contracts for average older championship players. Or 28year old journeyman strikers.

Absolutely spot on.

[Loyal72 13,041]

13 minutes ago, OrangeRab said:

Diomande will be one of the first names on the team sheet this year. 

We get 10-15 million to spend each year.

If we had adopted a model of signing 3 quality Diomande’s each season.

We’d have a lean, core quality side aged between 21-25 by now. With sellable assets.

And the ability to supplement with experience where need be.

Diomande is the opposite of the reason we are where we are.

We need more Diomande and Tillmans and less expensive contracts for average older championship players. Or 28year old journeyman strikers.

Instead we sign Scott Wrights.

[Ross-Gazza genius 2,004]

10 hours ago, HG5 said:

We are not a normal football club, which can allow time to rebuild.

Every year of scum dominance makes the gap wider.

But spending cash on vanity projects & nice to haves seems to be the way we want to go, so that some nebulous increase in turnover in 3 years will help us defeat the FFP monster.

 

I'm aware of that but we don't have the money to keep sacking and backing a new manager. At some point we need to take our medicine and give someone time.