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Club 1872 response to public comments made about the Rangers support by elected politicians in Scotland

10 April, 2018

Club 1872 has had contact with a number of members over the past few weeks, concerned about public comments made about the Rangers support by elected politicians in Scotland. We can confirm that we have written directly to a number of politicians seeking an explanation for false comments made by them on social media about the Rangers support. We have also written to two Scottish political party leaders seeking explanations for the behaviour of their elected representatives.

In addition to this, members may be aware that the Scottish Government, in the aftermath of the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act, has set up a working party to examine the subject of sectarianism and make recommendations on how it should be defined in Scots law. We are extremely concerned that this process should not be a repeat of the ill-fated consultation on the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act, during which a number of discredited politicians and journalists were successful in pushing for unworkable and illiberal laws targeting football supporters.

With that in mind we have written to the chair of this group to ask about the makeup of the working party, the scope of their work and how organisations like Club 1872 can feed into the process. If positive progress is to be made then it is essential that a common sense approach is taken on this topic and that those who cannot contain their agenda-driven hysteria are kept at arms length from decision making.

We have seen a circumstance in modern Scotland where Rangers and Rangers supporters are seen as fair game, regardless of the steps we take to try to ensure good behaviour. This is partly due to the actions of a small minority of our supporters but is largely down to an agenda in certain areas of the press and Scottish political life. We have spoken to Rangers about this and urged them to use their significant resources to take a more robust stance on tackling this issue. We will continue dialogue with them.

We are also in discussions with Police Scotland regarding the treatment of Rangers supporters and are seeking changes in the way we have been policed in certain circumstances. This has so far been a healthy dialogue and we hope that it will lead to some substantive changes in approach.

In the meantime Club 1872 will continue to do what it can, with very limited resources, to tackle any unfair or malicious comments about our loyal support.

 

[Tiger Shaw 30,960]

18 minutes ago, backup said:

Club 1872 response to public comments made about the Rangers support by elected politicians in Scotland

10 April, 2018

Club 1872 has had contact with a number of members over the past few weeks, concerned about public comments made about the Rangers support by elected politicians in Scotland. We can confirm that we have written directly to a number of politicians seeking an explanation for false comments made by them on social media about the Rangers support. We have also written to two Scottish political party leaders seeking explanations for the behaviour of their elected representatives.

In addition to this, members may be aware that the Scottish Government, in the aftermath of the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act, has set up a working party to examine the subject of sectarianism and make recommendations on how it should be defined in Scots law. We are extremely concerned that this process should not be a repeat of the ill-fated consultation on the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act, during which a number of discredited politicians and journalists were successful in pushing for unworkable and illiberal laws targeting football supporters.

With that in mind we have written to the chair of this group to ask about the makeup of the working party, the scope of their work and how organisations like Club 1872 can feed into the process. If positive progress is to be made then it is essential that a common sense approach is taken on this topic and that those who cannot contain their agenda-driven hysteria are kept at arms length from decision making.

We have seen a circumstance in modern Scotland where Rangers and Rangers supporters are seen as fair game, regardless of the steps we take to try to ensure good behaviour. This is partly due to the actions of a small minority of our supporters but is largely down to an agenda in certain areas of the press and Scottish political life. We have spoken to Rangers about this and urged them to use their significant resources to take a more robust stance on tackling this issue. We will continue dialogue with them.

We are also in discussions with Police Scotland regarding the treatment of Rangers supporters and are seeking changes in the way we have been policed in certain circumstances. This has so far been a healthy dialogue and we hope that it will lead to some substantive changes in approach.

In the meantime Club 1872 will continue to do what it can, with very limited resources, to tackle any unfair or malicious comments about our loyal support.

 

Our support isn’t any worse behaved than any other set of supporters in the country. That bit is just horse shit. 

Good luck to them with this but they’re pissing against the wind.

One Scotland many cultures unless you’re PUL or a Rangers supporter.

[Negri's lovechild 14,601]

Open dialogue is important, and a positive step, but it will be interesting to see if any of the politicians approached get back in touch with C1872. I doubt they will though, as they like to hide behind Twitter posts.

[The Specky Forum Organiser 66,682]

Good statement until they mentioned our supporters

[left winger 14,708]

If Club 1872 is writing to people regarding their public comments on our club and support, then Club 1872 should publish all it's correspondence on the matter - as, and when, it occurs. 

If we're being slated in public, let's deal with it in public.

[Virtuoso 27,180]

58 minutes ago, backup said:

In the meantime Club 1872 will continue to do what it can, with very limited resources, to tackle any unfair or malicious comments about our loyal support.

I'm no lover of C1872, but kudos for publicly speaking out against our detractors (they should do it more often) but why the fuck did they include that?

Just makes them sound meek and weak. Fuck me!!!

[Virtuoso 27,180]

More from C1872:

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Club 1872 has today written to the Editor of the Scottish Sun, Alan Muir, seeking an explanation and retraction for a false story written by Blair Meikle which appeared online yesterday.

In his haste to paint Rangers supporters in a bad light, Mr Meikle failed to carry out even the most basic of fact checks before claiming a Rangers supporter had made abusive online comments about our charity partner Autism Scotland. The Twitter account in question was not that of a Rangers supporter and it had in fact made offensive comments about the Ibrox disaster.

We have suggested that after retracting the story and publicly apologising, the Scottish Sun should make a donation to Autism Scotland by way of reparation for this false and damaging story.

We applaud the Rangers Charity Foundation for their excellent work with Autism Scotland and commend the work and fundraising of the Rangers support in creating pioneering facilities for autistic supporters at Ibrox. 

 

[To Be A Ranger 4,032]

35 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said:

Our support isn’t any worse behaved than any other set of supporters in the country. That bit is just horse shit. 

Good luck to them with this but they’re pissing against the wind.

One Scotland many cultures unless you’re PUL or a Rangers supporter.

They were doing well until the bit you highlighted. Killed all the positivity.

[five stars 1,740]

We need to be more politically engaged otherwise they'll just run over the top of us.

[magic8ball 27,904]

31 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said:

Open dialogue is important, and a positive step, but it will be interesting to see if any of the politicians approached get back in touch with C1872. I doubt they will though, as they like to hide behind Twitter posts.

the guilty parties will crawl back under their stones until it calms down .then return with petty ill informed swipes 

the problem with this shite is statements like this won't get to reach the wider public unlike some of the tweets from the unaccountable elected figures 

there's no other section of society that would be allowed such vicious attacks without censure .

we only have to look at what happened to the recently passed away darts legend ,Eric Bristow when he said what he said about the football child abuse victims .he was cast to the side as a public tv figure.

but it's ok to slander out club and its fans 

[Negri's lovechild 14,601]

7 minutes ago, five stars said:

We need to be more politically engaged otherwise they'll just run over the top of us.

That's where the filth have played a blinder. They have had a political voice for years. We just keep it about the football mainly, which would be right in any other country of the world, but in Scotland the politicians have a massive voice and they aren't afraid to shout us down. We can't keep taking it.

[Negri's lovechild 14,601]

7 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

the guilty parties will crawl back under their stones until it calms down .then return with petty ill informed swipes 

the problem with this shite is statements like this won't get to reach the wider public unlike some of the tweets from the unaccountable elected figures 

there's no other section of society that would be allowed such vicious attacks without censure .

we only have to look at what happened to the recently passed away darts legend ,Eric Bristow when he said what he said about the football child abuse victims .he was cast to the side as a public tv figure.

but it's ok to slander out club and its fans 

The unfounded allegations and untruths from them are at times astonishing. Once it's out there it becomes common truth. Look at the cup final debacle. It's already become "big bad Rangers fans", and history is being re-written.

[Brubear 2,953]

55 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said:

Our support isn’t any worse behaved than any other set of supporters in the country. That bit is just horse shit. 

Good luck to them with this but they’re pissing against the wind.

One Scotland many cultures unless you’re PUL or a Rangers supporter.

The statement doesn't say we are worse than anyone else but that we have a small minority. It would be burying our heads in the sand if we tried to say everyone of our support behaved impeccably on every occasion. 

[Tiger Shaw 30,960]

2 minutes ago, Brubear said:

The statement doesn't say we are worse than anyone else but that we have a small minority. It would be burying our heads in the sand if we tried to say everyone of our support behaved impeccably on every occasion. 

Our supporters behaviour is not the reason we are being targeted 

If it was why are other clubs not being targeted because of the behaviour of their support?

[Bad Robot 21,512]

1 hour ago, Goosetav said:

Good statement until they mentioned our supporters

Why is it wrong to point out we (like others) still have a minority who act inappropriately ?

[The Specky Forum Organiser 66,682]

1 minute ago, Bad Robot said:

Why is it wrong to point out we (like others) still have a minority who act inappropriately ?

1- It's pretty obvious that our most public/well known group of supporters shouldn't be publicly criticising us

2- It's an easy comeback for the people this is aimed at

[The Specky Forum Organiser 66,682]

I can hand on heart say I've never seen a Rangers supporter act in anything other than a dignifying respectful manner.

[Young Bob 1,360]

Club should be doing this rather than a group of fans.

Anyway whoever it is I hope they point out fenian does not mean RC.

 

[Virtuoso 27,180]

5 minutes ago, Goosetav said:

I can hand on heart say I've never seen a Rangers supporter act in anything other than a dignifying respectful manner.

That BP9 let's us down. Standing draped in a Red Hand flag, giving the salute and shouting sectarian obscenities for the full 90 minutes.

No need for it in this day and age.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

Pleasantly surprised by 1872 on this good first step. 

But they can’t just let their self be fobbed off, they have both organisations bang to rights.  

[The Specky Forum Organiser 66,682]

Just now, Virtuoso said:

That BP9 let's us down. Standing draped in a Red Hand flag, giving the salute and shouting sectarian obscenities for the full 90 minutes.

No need for it in this day and age.

Horrible mate.

There's a rumour that he's been heard singing a song with the lyrics 'we hate catholics, everybody hates roman catholics' as well. Scum imo

[Bad Robot 21,512]

I think it’s a good statement especially after that prick dornan is using the pensioner killing bigot as a credible source.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

1 minute ago, Goosetav said:

Horrible mate.

There's a rumour that he's been heard singing a song with the lyrics 'we hate catholics, everybody hates roman catholics' as well. Scum imo

Heard he also pumped wee sturgeon while singing said song now that’s just the lowest of the low. 

[Bad Robot 21,512]

10 minutes ago, Goosetav said:

I can hand on heart say I've never seen a Rangers supporter act in anything other than a dignifying respectful manner.

Straight from the fenians pr handbook ?

[The Specky Forum Organiser 66,682]

Just now, Bad Robot said:

Straight from the fenians pr handbook ?

wit