Popular Post SPWF 8,936 Posted November 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2021 54 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: I don't think Helander is better than Goldson at all. I like Helander but he has had some absolute bombscares and escapes criticism at times. Still wake up in a cold sweat thinking of Benfica away. The Dundee United game at the start of the season was the first, and still only, league game we’ve lost with Helander in the side. If anything the guy’s underrated. graeme_4, falkirkNS, plymouthranger and 5 others 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 4,281 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Can only sell him if someone tries to buy him. Agreed, but if you tell his agent to find him a club last summer and advise we’re willing to accept a lower valuation in that region, you’d likely have got a few EFL/EPL sides looking at it. The £8+million figure we weren’t going to achieve in a deflated market. But £4million would still have given us the funds to find a younger replacement graeme_4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 45,397 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Can only sell him if someone tries to buy him. There are many ways you can still put him in the shop window and tell his agent to find him options of no club came forward with a bid and you were looking to sell. Clubs aren't mind readers. The club decided to hold on and think he would lead us to 56 despite having this over his head. Foregoing a transfer fee in favour of the £30-40m windfall next season. A big risk but one they went with. This season the board put everything on black and hope it doesn't fall into red. plymouthranger, southcoastbear and graeme_4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,299 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Goldson had a very good season last season. Playing in a very frugal defence. He was at the heart of our invincible season. It is absolutely clear that he wants to go either January or in the summer (not signing a contract). This has affected his game- which tbh is poor as it shows that when his head is elsewhere he is pish. a true pro would still be putting in 100% even if his future is elsewhere. Drunk and disorderly., Malkytfp1 and magic8ball 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,639 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 11 hours ago, Malkytfp1 said: I don't think Helander is better than Goldson at all. I like Helander but he has had some absolute bombscares and escapes criticism at times. Still wake up in a cold sweat thinking of Benfica away. So drawing 2-2 away to benfica gives you cold sweats, but goldson doing a cruyff turn in his own 18yard box against hamilton at ibrox, being robbed of the ball, and Hamilton scoring the only goal of the game to beat us at ibrox still has you thinking he's our best defender? Rangers_no1 and Drunk and disorderly. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1780 1,259 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 He’s not signing as not getting the wage he wants he’s not plying his best so won’t get the club he wants to sign for free on bring back katic - go katic helander Goldson just drop and rot - stupid cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,026 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, tom1780 said: He’s not signing as not getting the wage he wants he’s not plying his best so won’t get the club he wants to sign for free on bring back katic - go katic helander Goldson just drop and rot - stupid cunt Stop it, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 12,734 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Stop it, please. Katic seems to have turned in to prime Maldini since he left according to some on here. Malkytfp1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,026 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, JackAlex93 said: Katic seems to have turned in to prime Maldini since he left according to some on here. It was the same when he was here JackAlex93 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,712 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: So drawing 2-2 away to benfica gives you cold sweats, but goldson doing a cruyff turn in his own 18yard box against hamilton at ibrox, being robbed of the ball, and Hamilton scoring the only goal of the game to beat us at ibrox still has you thinking he's our best defender? Mentioning the benfica game was just a bit of banter. There are other games Helander has looked poor. But you know that. It's easy to pick away at Goldson just now as it was when it was Tav as it was when it was Kent and whoever the latest hunt needs to be. You will mention times Goldson has made a cunt of it, and of course he has you're right but you also need to acknowledge how colossal he was during last season when he was the main protagonist in a defence which literally broke records and won us a title. He was constantly mentioned as our player of the season. Goldson has played more than double the amount of games than Helander has since since he signed which for me shows his importance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 23,932 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 42 minutes ago, JackAlex93 said: Katic seems to have turned in to prime Maldini since he left according to some on here. He’s far from perfect but he’s a goal threat, good ball winner, he’s three years younger than Goldson and his determination to get back in the team is beyond question. I’d like to try him alongside Helander and see how it goes. For every one of us bigging him up through rose-tinted specs, there’s just as many telling us he’s garbage and getting worse every day. He’s a committed Rangers player who has fought back from a serious injury and deserves a chance. He would not be the first to benefit significantly from a loan spell and return to us a better player. Give him a chance FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanksRFC 3,882 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I think there's a high chance Katic is recalled but I really don't think he is the answer other than a squad player. I expect the new management team is prioritising the centre half roll in January when/if we sell a couple of players to fund it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 45,397 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 minute ago, ShanksRFC said: I think there's a high chance Katic is recalled but I really don't think he is the answer other than a squad player. I expect the new management team is prioritising the centre half roll in January when/if we sell a couple of players to fund it. Don't think there is any chance he is recalled and don't think he will play for us again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Specky Forum Organiser 69,708 Posted December 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2021 Always one extreme or the other when it come to Katic on here He's maybe no the answer but he is nowhere near as bad as some make out gazza27, Colin Traive, Laudrup1984 and 5 others 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,529 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: He’s far from perfect but he’s a goal threat, good ball winner, he’s three years younger than Goldson and his determination to get back in the team is beyond question. I’d like to try him alongside Helander and see how it goes. For every one of us bigging him up through rose-tinted specs, there’s just as many telling us he’s garbage and getting worse every day. He’s a committed Rangers player who has fought back from a serious injury and deserves a chance. He would not be the first to benefit significantly from a loan spell and return to us a better player. Give him a chance FFS. That would all be fair comment if he was playing well during his loan spell, but apparently he isn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueSuedeSambas 56,529 Posted December 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 minute ago, The Specky Liar said: Always one extreme or the other when it come to Katic on here He's maybe no the answer but he is nowhere near as bad as some make out Extremes on both sides of the argument. The people who over rate him make him out to be far better than he actually is and the people who don’t rate him make him out to be a lot worse than he actually is. SkylineBlue, The Specky Forum Organiser, BlueKnight87 and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,371 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: He’s far from perfect but he’s a goal threat, good ball winner, he’s three years younger than Goldson and his determination to get back in the team is beyond question. I’d like to try him alongside Helander and see how it goes. For every one of us bigging him up through rose-tinted specs, there’s just as many telling us he’s garbage and getting worse every day. He’s a committed Rangers player who has fought back from a serious injury and deserves a chance. He would not be the first to benefit significantly from a loan spell and return to us a better player. Give him a chance FFS. You want to take a chance on a guy that wasn't good enough first time round and has now been benched in Croatia because he's not been good enough for Split? Quite a big gamble to take, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanksRFC 3,882 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Don't think there is any chance he is recalled and don't think he will play for us again. How come? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 45,397 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Just now, ShanksRFC said: How come? Can't get a game for his loan club and won't get a game for us when he can be recalled. Unless Gio has a huge soft spot for him he won't play for us again. ShanksRFC 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,996 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Can't get a game for his loan club and won't get a game for us when he can be recalled. Unless Gio has a huge soft spot for him he won't play for us again. He's played 9 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,904 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Extremes on both sides of the argument. The people who over rate him make him out to be far better than he actually is and the people who don’t rate him make him out to be a lot worse than he actually is. I can remember a collective disappointment on here when he got injured in preseason last year . Hes a far better option that Simpson would be the fairest way to describe him . Roy Hobbs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 45,397 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: He's started 7 games for them, seen a few people rolling out this myth that he's been woeful or can't get a game over there because he hasn't played the last two matches. 7 starts and 4 late sub appearances in 13 possible games. 2 starts coming against lower cup opposition. I'm not saying he has been woeful, haven't watched any of the games to comment and probably neither has anyone posting on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 45,397 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, magic8ball said: I can remember a collective disappointment on here when he got injured in preseason last year . Hes a far better option that Simpson would be the fairest way to describe him . Defoe would be a better option at centre back than Simpson. That boy is easily up there with our worst signings in the top division. magic8ball 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,904 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 15 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: Goldson had a very good season last season. Playing in a very frugal defence. He was at the heart of our invincible season. It is absolutely clear that he wants to go either January or in the summer (not signing a contract). This has affected his game- which tbh is poor as it shows that when his head is elsewhere he is pish. a true pro would still be putting in 100% even if his future is elsewhere. The contract one is strange .I remember when Kamara extended Andy Halliday was in SSB and Goldson was mentioned.As far as he was concerned he didn’t see extending his contract as being an issue at the time .According to Halliday,Goldson and his family are happy and settled here . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 32,114 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: He's started 7 games for them, seen a few people rolling out this myth that he's been woeful or can't get a game over there because he hasn't played the last two matches. He can clearly get a game but the reports are he’s been really poor. esquire8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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