Stadium facilities.

[STEPPS BOY 73,909]

2 hours ago, andyhrfc said:

This is part of the problem.  I said it before the game, said it at the game and still say it now.  Why was there such an obsession with getting pissed at a European final amongst our support?  Hardly surprising we were so shite in the stadium compared to our normal selves.  

Everyone knew what the stadium would be like, and how UEFA would manage the occasion before the game.  The stadium is a shit hole and UEFA is UEFA, so how people were treated should have come as no surprise.  

It doesn’t make it right and so much of the planning and actions of those organising and enacting organisational directives would fail to stand scutiny in a UK court.  But this was not the UK, this was Spain on a hot Spanish day.

Shite organisation from UEFA has been going on for many years and this was no different, but everyone attending should have been prepared.

I’m all ears as to how to be prepared for having no water in a stadium from 8-12 pm and in over 30 degree heat?

[Dan Deacon 55,203]

13 minutes ago, andyhrfc said:

Correct but that is the system and you have to prepare for it. It is totally wrong but entirely predictable in advance.    

UEFA policy, shit ground, lack of care for fans, heavy handed policing all part of the package.   All totally wrong but happens at every final.

 

 

You genuinely saying people should have went into stadium expecting to have drank from dirty cups from the toilet taps 😂

[TEFTONG 60,108]

2 hours ago, andyhrfc said:

This is part of the problem.  I said it before the game, said it at the game and still say it now.  Why was there such an obsession with getting pissed at a European final amongst our support?  Hardly surprising we were so shite in the stadium compared to our normal selves.  

Everyone knew what the stadium would be like, and how UEFA would manage the occasion before the game.  The stadium is a shit hole and UEFA is UEFA, so how people were treated should have come as no surprise.  

It doesn’t make it right and so much of the planning and actions of those organising and enacting organisational directives would fail to stand scutiny in a UK court.  But this was not the UK, this was Spain on a hot Spanish day.

Shite organisation from UEFA has been going on for many years and this was no different, but everyone attending should have been prepared.

Sanctimonious pish especially from a fucking Liverpool fan....

[Dan Deacon 55,203]

5 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

I’m all ears as to how to be prepared for having no water in a stadium from 8-12 pm and in over 30 degree heat?

Could have maybe put some in your mouth on way in and slowly drank it throughout the match maybe? 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 64,682]

2 hours ago, andyhrfc said:

This is part of the problem.  I said it before the game, said it at the game and still say it now.  Why was there such an obsession with getting pissed at a European final amongst our support?  Hardly surprising we were so shite in the stadium compared to our normal selves.  

Everyone knew what the stadium would be like, and how UEFA would manage the occasion before the game.  The stadium is a shit hole and UEFA is UEFA, so how people were treated should have come as no surprise.  

It doesn’t make it right and so much of the planning and actions of those organising and enacting organisational directives would fail to stand scutiny in a UK court.  But this was not the UK, this was Spain on a hot Spanish day.

Shite organisation from UEFA has been going on for many years and this was no different, but everyone attending should have been prepared.

What a load of utter utter shite

I've seen Rangers play all over Europe including in some absolute backwaters/tiny grounds and never seen anything like that, how the fuck are people supposed to know that a stadium hosting a European final wouldn't provide water in that heat?

Fanny

[RFC55 108,905]

Don’t know why he’s going down the road of talking to people like they’ve never been.

I’ve seen Rangers in 9 different countries, I’ve seen us in shiteholes and some of the worlds best stadiums. Every single one of them have had kiosks open, they’ve sold juice and water, crisps and sometimes even weird as fuck snacks. But they’ve had that option.

 

they didn’t sell out btw we stood for 40 minutes waiting on a kiosk we were being told was opening only to be told they weren’t opening it. We then broke into the kiosk and started to hand out the bottles of water and Fanta to the guys who were struggling the most.

That’s an absolute disgrace for a major European final

[One Jock Wallace 858]

2 hours ago, andyhrfc said:

This is part of the problem.  I said it before the game, said it at the game and still say it now.  Why was there such an obsession with getting pissed at a European final amongst our support?  Hardly surprising we were so shite in the stadium compared to our normal selves.  

Everyone knew what the stadium would be like, and how UEFA would manage the occasion before the game.  The stadium is a shit hole and UEFA is UEFA, so how people were treated should have come as no surprise.  

It doesn’t make it right and so much of the planning and actions of those organising and enacting organisational directives would fail to stand scutiny in a UK court.  But this was not the UK, this was Spain on a hot Spanish day.

Shite organisation from UEFA has been going on for many years and this was no different, but everyone attending should have been prepared.

I get what you're saying but I was prepared. Took nearly 2 hours to get inside, standing crowded in the baking heat with my 10 year old son and they take our water off us at one of the checkpoints before getting inside. Get inside & there's only non alcoholic beer which my dehydrated son isn't gonna drink. No food either. Was a fucking disgrace. We were on the go since 6 & never got home for a drink till 1 as everything was shut. 

[Dan Deacon 55,203]

6 minutes ago, RFC55 said:

Don’t know why he’s going down the road of talking to people like they’ve never been.

I’ve seen Rangers in 9 different countries, I’ve seen us in shiteholes and some of the worlds best stadiums. Every single one of them have had kiosks open, they’ve sold juice and water, crisps and sometimes even weird as fuck snacks. But they’ve had that option.

 

they didn’t sell out btw we stood for 40 minutes waiting on a kiosk we were being told was opening only to be told they weren’t opening it. We then broke into the kiosk and started to hand out the bottles of water and Fanta to the guys who were struggling the most.

That’s an absolute disgrace for a major European final

Seen a boy on twitter also broke into one and accessed about 200 bottles of water. Superb stuff doing that and risking arrest to help people imo.

[Perth_Campsie_Ger 17,995]

That was before half time

[The Specky Forum Organiser 64,682]

Seen far drunker Rangers supports over the years than that as well. At home and abroad

[Blues Brother 1,115]

2 hours ago, andyhrfc said:

This is part of the problem.  I said it before the game, said it at the game and still say it now.  Why was there such an obsession with getting pissed at a European final amongst our support?  Hardly surprising we were so shite in the stadium compared to our normal selves.  

Everyone knew what the stadium would be like, and how UEFA would manage the occasion before the game.  The stadium is a shit hole and UEFA is UEFA, so how people were treated should have come as no surprise.  

It doesn’t make it right and so much of the planning and actions of those organising and enacting organisational directives would fail to stand scutiny in a UK court.  But this was not the UK, this was Spain on a hot Spanish day.

Shite organisation from UEFA has been going on for many years and this was no different, but everyone attending should have been prepared.

To be honest I didn’t know they wouldn’t have proper facilities to buy things like water 

[TangoRomeo 51]

I can't speak for others but I wasn't drunk for the game, had a maybe 4 pints between arriving in seville at 11am until about 3pm and then waters until 6pm when we made our way to the stadium.  That's when I could no longer get water stuck in blockades of police - I sort of understand the logic of letting folk through in sections but a bit of a fuckin heads up/info would have been good on that.

So from 6pm I couldn't get water.  Managed to get 1 can of warm 0% Heineken at one bar just to get a drink in me.  Other than that it was tap water until roughly the end of the 90. 

Just caught up on the sevilla statements/quotes and fuck me what a bunch of lying chunts.  The taps did not come back on

We were lucky to find an open bar outside the stadium on our route home and got 4 bottles of water for 20 euros.  At that point I'd have paid anything for a bottle of water.  Just glad i didnt get ill from the tap water. Arseholes

[andyhrfc 2,242]

28 minutes ago, TEFTONG said:

Sanctimonious pish especially from a fucking Liverpool fan....

What a load of shite.  Not sure what the association with Liverpool has anything to do with anything.

If you can reasonably anticipate a set of circumstances you prepare for it. 

UEFA, the Stadium, the police all responsible for causing problems. 

But all predictable problems.  

 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 64,682]

1 minute ago, andyhrfc said:

What a load of shite.  Not sure what the association with Liverpool has anything to do with anything.

If you can reasonably anticipate a set of circumstances you prepare for it. 

UEFA, the Stadium, the police all responsible for causing problems. 

But all predictable problems.  

 

Not having access to water at a European final isn't predictable ya fucking wanker.

[Blues Brother 1,115]

2 minutes ago, andyhrfc said:

What a load of shite.  Not sure what the association with Liverpool has anything to do with anything.

If you can reasonably anticipate a set of circumstances you prepare for it. 

UEFA, the Stadium, the police all responsible for causing problems. 

But all predictable problems.  

 

What did you do in anticipation of the circumstances, to help you prepare for them?

[TangoRomeo 51]

1 minute ago, andyhrfc said:

What a load of shite.  Not sure what the association with Liverpool has anything to do with anything.

If you can reasonably anticipate a set of circumstances you prepare for it. 

UEFA, the Stadium, the police all responsible for causing problems. 

But all predictable problems.  

 

What would you have done to mitigate there being no water or any other drinks available at the kiosks?   I've done a lot of risk management over the years but I'm really struggling to find anything that I could have put in place to avoid this becoming an issue for me as an attendee

[FlippinEck 3,705]

Uefa statement saying staff were assaulted when trying to deliver water. There were riot police on all the concourses. If that had happened there would have been riots surely? 

[andyhrfc 2,242]

1 minute ago, The Specky Liar said:

Not having access to water at a European final isn't predictable ya fucking wanker.

Fuckin wake up lad! 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 64,682]

Just now, andyhrfc said:

Fuckin wake up lad! 

What does that even mean

[andyhrfc 2,242]

1 minute ago, FlippinEck said:

Uefa statement saying staff were assaulted when trying to deliver water. There were riot police on all the concourses. If that had happened there would have been riots surely? 

Lies, lies and more lies.

[Dan Deacon 55,203]

 

[surfsup2 1,535]

4 minutes ago, FlippinEck said:

Uefa statement saying staff were assaulted when trying to deliver water. There were riot police on all the concourses. If that had happened there would have been riots surely? 

Trying to cover up that they made an arse of it  could not organise a piss up in a brewery .

There we’re no riot police .

[RFC55 108,905]

6 minutes ago, andyhrfc said:

Fuckin wake up lad! 

He’s made a good point.

 

yer gone need to help me here.

 

I bought two bottles of water and had them took off me on the way into the ground.

I then thought don’t argue cause that’s what they want just buy some in the ground. There was then none in my section.

what other preparation could I make here? You seem a seasoned traveller so the floor is all yours 

[TangoRomeo 51]

We had loads of tooled up police in beside us. All the way up the stand and loads in the concourse.  We were mixed with Frankfurt fans which is probably why we had so many cops.

Also means their fans in that's stand suffered exactly like we did. 

[The Dude 20,026]

18 minutes ago, andyhrfc said:

What a load of shite.  Not sure what the association with Liverpool has anything to do with anything.

If you can reasonably anticipate a set of circumstances you prepare for it. 

UEFA, the Stadium, the police all responsible for causing problems. 

But all predictable problems.  

 

Was it 'reasonable' to predict that there would be no water available inside the stadium?

In 30 years of going to games it's not something I can think of having ever encountered.