Welcome to Rangers, Philippe Clement!

[Boybluesy 3,790]

5 hours ago, MayboleLoyal_atb said:

Don’t think he should be exempt from criticism tbh. Yesterday the first half Ross county had loads of room middle of the park they were running right through the middle ,Lundstram and dowell weren’t cutting it. Needed a change to Stirling in there and he wasn’t bold enough to make it.

 

His decision to start Dowell was wrong and clear to see first half and instead of rectifying it he stuck with it.

This was clear to see.  Butland had a brilliant save and they caused problems all first half. 

[Loyal72 11,795]

He needs to part with the losers or this squad will see another manager going, without addressing the problem.

 

 

[Gascoigne's Flute 276]

Clement is not above criticism as he was too slow to make changes at the weekend when it was needed & allowed them to come back into the game then take all 3 points.

Clement needs to be ruthless with the squad in the summer, rip it up and start again. I'd rid the majority of the players from the Gerrard/Beale era now even if we do win the league.

Still believe he's the man to get us silverware but that match on Sunday raised questions of him and he cant allow that to happen again this season.

[molesmole 1,118]

Putting his faith in a lot of the same players previous managers have.

We really need to show teams less respect and go for it. Shame we just don't have the attackers.

 

[Boybluesy 3,790]

26 minutes ago, molesmole said:

Putting his faith in a lot of the same players previous managers have.

We really need to show teams less respect and go for it. Shame we just don't have the attackers.

 

Dessers and no Shankland was always going to rear its head.  We could have been three up. 

[Moody Blue 9,475]

He needs to learn to shake up the team and not play favourites or the constant underachievers will have him out the door as well. He’s done remarkably well since his appointment but he doesn’t avoid criticism when the clusterfuck of results happen. 

[Essandoh 21,267]

18 hours ago, Loyal72 said:

He needs to part with the losers or this squad will see another manager going, without addressing the problem.

 

 

Clement outlasts the dross. Zero doubts in my mind about that.

[B1872 20,990]

These players have seen off a number of managers. Clement needs to learn from this and clear them out in the summer or he’ll be next. Fuck going through this every October!

[SIRB_72 4,070]

5 minutes ago, B1872 said:

These players have seen off a number of managers. Clement needs to learn from this and clear them out in the summer or he’ll be next. Fuck going through this every October!

I think if similar happens again and Clement is booted and the same core is at the club a lot of the support will turn.

People paying thousands into the club every year to watch the same dross getting the same results year after year eventually takes a toll.

These players, like you say, will and have run every manager, good or bad, out of the place and eventually it will be the support they chase away.

[The Godfather 72,423]

7 minutes ago, SIRB_72 said:

I think if similar happens again and Clement is booted and the same core is at the club a lot of the support will turn.

People paying thousands into the club every year to watch the same dross getting the same results year after year eventually takes a toll.

These players, like you say, will and have run every manager, good or bad, out of the place and eventually it will be the support they chase away.

No point booting out the manager especially given Clement has had us punching with this dog shite squad.

Until we get significant investment and a new core of players nothing will change. Sacking and hiring managers is pointless until we get a new group of players 

[SIRB_72 4,070]

1 minute ago, The Godfather said:

No point booting out the manager especially given Clement has had us punching with this dog shite squad.

Until we get significant investment and a new core of players nothing will change. Sacking and hiring managers is pointless until we get a new group of players 

100%

[B1872 20,990]

4 minutes ago, The Godfather said:

No point booting out the manager especially given Clement has had us punching with this dog shite squad.

Until we get significant investment and a new core of players nothing will change. Sacking and hiring managers is pointless until we get a new group of players 

Unfortunately it’s easier to sack one man than 11. However I think Clement has proved that he has what it takes for us to be successful. Just hope he and club realise that as we’ve been continually let done by the same players. I’d rather give young players a chance than see the likes of Goldson, Borna, Lundstram, Wright and Tav struggle through games whilst taking a fortune out the club. 

[chris182 6,343]

9 minutes ago, The Godfather said:

No point booting out the manager especially given Clement has had us punching with this dog shite squad.

Until we get significant investment and a new core of players nothing will change. Sacking and hiring managers is pointless until we get a new group of players 

Seems to have been the same message on repeat since Gerrard left

[McEwan's Lager 30,807]

17 minutes ago, SIRB_72 said:

I think if similar happens again and Clement is booted and the same core is at the club a lot of the support will turn.

People paying thousands into the club every year to watch the same dross getting the same results year after year eventually takes a toll.

These players, like you say, will and have run every manager, good or bad, out of the place and eventually it will be the support they chase away.

It can't be allowed to happen again. 

[BlueSuedeSambas 54,246]

Think it’s harsh that people are starting to put the “Clement has his favourites” and the “if he sticks with these players they will get him sacked” narrative out there because Clement has had no choice but to work with this squad.

We had no money to spend in January to properly improve the squad and although in an ideal situation we would see multiple players bombed out even now, the reality is the players we have in the squad who could and would come in and play in their places are at best equal to, and in reality worse than, the ones currently playing. 

[SkylineBlue 23,994]

13 minutes ago, The Godfather said:

No point booting out the manager especially given Clement has had us punching with this dog shite squad.

Until we get significant investment and a new core of players nothing will change. Sacking and hiring managers is pointless until we get a new group of players 

This is it in a nut shell. Changing the manager will not change our outcomes. 

Until the squad is gutted of 5 or 6 key players who routinely fail, then we're guaranteed to constantly fall short. You could have Alex Ferguson in his pomp and this team isn't winning a league.

[Laudrupsleftfoot 11,199]

19 minutes ago, The Godfather said:

No point booting out the manager especially given Clement has had us punching with this dog shite squad.

Until we get significant investment and a new core of players nothing will change. Sacking and hiring managers is pointless until we get a new group of players 

Equally doubt many managers are kept on if they keep getting beat by them.

Though agree probably not getting better than Clement.

If he doesn’t win this one he won’t get a better chance.

[chris182 6,343]

We need to stick with Clement, the constant here are the players

[BlueSuedeSambas 54,246]

22 minutes ago, The Godfather said:

No point booting out the manager especially given Clement has had us punching with this dog shite squad.

Until we get significant investment and a new core of players nothing will change. Sacking and hiring managers is pointless until we get a new group of players 

We’ve signed multiple groups of new players, at a decent outlay to the club, to come in and form a new core, it’s just unfortunate that the majority of them are just cut from the same cloth as the ones who are already there.

We talk about the ones who have been here for a long time - Tav, Goldson, Borna, Lundstram - but we’ve also signed the likes of Souttar, Davies, Cantwell, Raskin, Dowell, Cifuentus, Dessers, Silva & Lammers in the past few windows, which has cost us a small fortune and there isn’t one there who seems to be of the standard or mentality required either.

Hopefully now with the change in DOF we will see a change in transfer strategy too because whatever we have been doing, over a period of years now, has been a total bust.

[The Godfather 72,423]

7 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

We’ve signed multiple groups of new players, at a decent outlay to the club, to come in and form a new core, it’s just unfortunate that the majority of them are just cut from the same cloth as the ones who are already there.

We talk about the ones who have been here for a long time - Tav, Goldson, Borna, Lundstram - but we’ve also signed the likes of Souttar, Davies, Cantwell, Raskin, Dowell, Cifuentus, Dessers, Silva & Lammers in the past few windows, which has cost us a small fortune and there isn’t one there who seems to be of the standard or mentality required either.

Hopefully now with the change in DOF we will see a change in transfer strategy too because whatever we have been doing, over a period of years now, has been a total bust.

We have to at some point trust a manager, we done it with Beale and suffered massively but at least Clement has shown he has a steel and personality about him.

Pity we didn't with Gio because he was miles better than Beale we just backed the wrong horse. 

Clement is a great manager for our current level and imo we won't get better so I'd be backing the man in the summer to the extent it needs. We can't afford not to unless we are happy being a club who sometimes can win the odd trophy ala Dortmund in Germany for years. 

This summer will tell us where we are aiming for.

[GA1972 9,786]

1 minute ago, The Godfather said:

We have to at some point trust a manager, we done it with Beale and suffered massively but at least Clement has shown he has a steel and personality about him.

Pity we didn't with Gio because he was miles better than Beale we just backed the wrong horse. 

Clement is a great manager for our current level and imo we won't get better so I'd be backing the man in the summer to the extent it needs. We can't afford not to unless we are happy being a club who sometimes can win the odd trophy ala Dortmund in Germany for years. 

This summer will tell us where we are aiming for.

I just hope this lot don’t fuck Clement’s reign before it’s really started with a team of his own. Been a worry I’ve had since he was appointed

[McEwan's Lager 30,807]

The facts are we have a manager who has been successful at more than one club, he's come in here and started miles behind with a bunch of no hopers and managed to make it the most competitive title race in Scotland since 2010-11. He's also won us a cup we haven't won since that season too. 

He deserves time to make the club into his own without the same old players in our squad downing tools and getting him sacked, the unhinged spoiled brat elements of our support chasing him out, and the board caving in and not backing him against those two things.

 

 

 

 

[The Godfather 72,423]

5 minutes ago, GA1972 said:

I just hope this lot don’t fuck Clement’s reign before it’s really started with a team of his own. Been a worry I’ve had since he was appointed

Yeah but being realistic when he came in we were in free fall and most of us accepted we were winning  nothing with this group. We won a cup and could still win another so in that aspect he's done well above what most of us expected. 

Due to his own doing he's raised expectations to a title win but the same losers who have let us down year after year have reverted to type and let him down too. 

He's made some mistakes yes but if he didn't then he'd never be near us and managing in a bigger league. He's a good manager and with the right backing he could be a great one for us.

It's up to the board where we go from here. 

[Loyal72 11,795]

Clement needs his own players, but we absolutely need to bag the core that has failed time and time again. 

As said he's had us punching above our station, that's a credit to him. 

He needs now to be given the money to build a new defence midfield and attack.

[DeanMK 4,730]

Even with the drop off in form, he's far exceeded my expectations with what he's gotten out of this squad. 

Needs backed in the summer.