The Beast 9,246 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Miovski is a very good striker amd is likely destined to play at a higher level than Aberdeen/SPFL. He will cause problems to defenders much better than anyone in Scotland in the future. Goldson could maybe have done slightly better in that one instance but imho there is no doubt whatsoever that he's still the best CB at the club by some distance. We do need to be heavily succession planning as he can't have too many more seasons left performing at his current level. bluenoz, rangersross, SeparateEntityMyArse and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigamonti 38 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 The fact that we are only 2 goals behind them on goal difference is down to our good defending. We've lost 5 less goals than them, but scored 7 less, so it's easy to see where the improvement is most needed. Losing just 12 goals in 24 games is excellent, and Goldson has been at the heart of that. demise, BookWorm, Bobby Hume and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,778 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 55 minutes ago, Rigamonti said: The fact that we are only 2 goals behind them on goal difference is down to our good defending. We've lost 5 less goals than them, but scored 7 less, so it's easy to see where the improvement is most needed. Losing just 12 goals in 24 games is excellent, and Goldson has been at the heart of that. So has jack butland, who has saved our centre halves on more occasions already than mcgregor did last full season Our centre halves dont have a dominant, fuck football im just going to win every challenge, type centre half, souttar is as close to it but he's not good enough positionally and switches off far too much to be of consistent use Rangers_no1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigamonti 38 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 44 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: So has jack butland, who has saved our centre halves on more occasions already than mcgregor did last full season Our centre halves dont have a dominant, fuck football im just going to win every challenge, type centre half, souttar is as close to it but he's not good enough positionally and switches off far too much to be of consistent use Butland has been brilliant, no doubt. But the defence as a whole, including the defensive midfielders, have done well. graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer 1,176 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Needs replaced,we should always be looking to upgrade and that includes Tav Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted E Bayer 485 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, The Beast said: Miovski is a very good striker amd is likely destined to play at a higher level than Aberdeen/SPFL. He will cause problems to defenders much better than anyone in Scotland in the future. Goldson could maybe have done slightly better in that one instance but imho there is no doubt whatsoever that he's still the best CB at the club by some distance. We do need to be heavily succession planning as he can't have too many more seasons left performing at his current level. Probably agree with this, but I do think Goldson's last a yard of pace this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dummiesoot 16,057 Posted February 9 Popular Post Share Posted February 9 Goldson never owns up to his own fuck ups, always looks to lay blame elsewhere. That is my biggest issue AdzKyle, SPWF, AGC123 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,932 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 4 minutes ago, dummiesoot said: Goldson never owns up to his own fuck ups, always looks to lay blame elsewhere. That is my biggest issue Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,246 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: So has jack butland, who has saved our centre halves on more occasions already than mcgregor did last full season Our centre halves dont have a dominant, fuck football im just going to win every challenge, type centre half, souttar is as close to it but he's not good enough positionally and switches off far too much to be of consistent use There are not too many of those sort of players that can do what you describe but also use the ball like a modern CB is expected to do. Even in the EPL it's quite rare to get a good balance of the two qualities. That big ponce Van Dijk is one, Romero, Stones, Saliba, Dias etc probably fall into that category but their value is measured in tens of millions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluenoz 31,087 Posted February 9 Popular Post Share Posted February 9 When all is said and done, Goldson will easily be in the top ten CBs ever to play for the club. Never in the same category as Grieg or Gough, but a very good player for us all the same. The Ibrox Derry, McEwan's Lager, MasterD and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,260 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 4 minutes ago, bluenoz said: When all is said and done, Goldson will easily be in the top ten CBs ever to play for the club. Never in the same category as Grieg or Gough, but a very good player for us all the same. We've had ten centre backs in the past twenty to thirty years alone that were much better than Goldson. Will be looked back on as a good defender at times that should've achieved more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,434 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 10 minutes ago, bluenoz said: When all is said and done, Goldson will easily be in the top ten CBs ever to play for the club. Never in the same category as Grieg or Gough, but a very good player for us all the same. Nah no chance. Boughi,Cuellar,Weir,Amo,Moore and that's only going back to early 2000's. Butcher, Gough, Roberts, MacKinnon, McPherson before that too. Goldson isn't even in discussion for the top 10. Rangers_no1, MisterC and esquire8 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz85 956 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 minutes ago, The Godfather said: Nah no chance. Boughi,Cuellar,Weir,Amo,Moore and that's only going back to early 2000's. Butcher, Gough, Roberts, MacKinnon, McPherson before that too. Goldson isn't even in discussion for the top 10. You forgot Emilson Cibari mate The Godfather 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz85 956 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 16 minutes ago, esquire8 said: We've had ten centre backs in the past twenty to thirty years alone that were much better than Goldson. Will be looked back on as a good defender at times that should've achieved more. For wherever people rank him and for the odd clanger he has, our team generally looks weaker at the back without him in my opinion bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusDa Beasley 1,044 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 As much as people love a no-nonsense defender who goes through everything then just boots the ball to fuck…as a team with 70% possession in most games, there’s no point in us having one. Katic being a prime example. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,087 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 16 minutes ago, The Godfather said: Nah no chance. Boughi,Cuellar,Weir,Amo,Moore and that's only going back to early 2000's. Butcher, Gough, Roberts, MacKinnon, McPherson before that too. Goldson isn't even in discussion for the top 10. I agree with most of them - Boughie, Weir, Amo, Butcher, Gough & Greig. Had Cuellar played more, for sure. I just feel we underestimate Goldson's contribution sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 32,926 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Jim is spot on, people go on about our defence but Butland has stopped many clear chances this season. Yes that's his job, but solely looking at goals lost is not telling the complete picture regarding our defence this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,677 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, The Archer said: Needs replaced,we should always be looking to upgrade and that includes Tav Pish. There are plenty other areas of the pitch need improved before Goldson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,231 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 16 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Jim is spot on, people go on about our defence but Butland has stopped many clear chances this season. Yes that's his job, but solely looking at goals lost is not telling the complete picture regarding our defence this season. We've conceded 12 Vs an XgA of 14. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,434 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 35 minutes ago, bluenoz said: I agree with most of them - Boughie, Weir, Amo, Butcher, Gough & Greig. Had Cuellar played more, for sure. I just feel we underestimate Goldson's contribution sometimes. Agreed. He's nowhere near as bad as some make out. Still our best CB bluenoz, graeme_4 and WilliamMunny 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,057 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, bluenoz said: When all is said and done, Goldson will easily be in the top ten CBs ever to play for the club. Never in the same category as Grieg or Gough, but a very good player for us all the same. No fucking chance Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 8,968 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, bluenoz said: When all is said and done, Goldson will easily be in the top ten CBs ever to play for the club. Never in the same category as Grieg or Gough, but a very good player for us all the same. Would rather have both him and Tav than not have them. Both have been terrific signings and servants to the club. Will need replaced one day, probably at a cost of £££ millions. bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,376 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 He's the best defender of the past decade but let's face it there's not much competition for that. He has been good and yes he's had slumps in form and made some stupid mistakes but show me a player who hasn't. The pros outweigh the cons Roy Hobbs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 8,968 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Gough was fucking shite in his 1st 2 to 3 seasons at ibrox. He made many's a howler. Alot more than Goldson did in his first 2 to 3 seasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,388 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, dummiesoot said: Goldson never owns up to his own fuck ups, always looks to lay blame elsewhere. That is my biggest issue He even did it the other night. Got up and looked across at Souttar/Tav Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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