Goldson

[The Beast 9,233]

Miovski is a very good striker amd is likely destined to play at a higher level than Aberdeen/SPFL. He will cause problems to defenders much better than anyone in Scotland in the future.

Goldson could maybe have done slightly better in that one instance but imho there is no doubt whatsoever that he's still the best CB at the club by some distance. We do need to be heavily succession planning as he can't have too many more seasons left performing at his current level.

[Rigamonti 37]

The fact that we are only 2 goals behind them on goal difference is down to our good defending. We've lost 5 less goals than them, but scored 7 less, so it's easy to see where the improvement is most needed. Losing just 12 goals in 24 games is excellent, and Goldson has been at the heart of that.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,613]

55 minutes ago, Rigamonti said:

The fact that we are only 2 goals behind them on goal difference is down to our good defending. We've lost 5 less goals than them, but scored 7 less, so it's easy to see where the improvement is most needed. Losing just 12 goals in 24 games is excellent, and Goldson has been at the heart of that.

So has jack butland, who has saved our centre halves on more occasions already than mcgregor did last full season

Our centre halves dont have a dominant, fuck football im just going to win every challenge, type centre half, souttar is as close to it but he's not good enough positionally and switches off far too much to be of consistent use

[Rigamonti 37]

44 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said:

So has jack butland, who has saved our centre halves on more occasions already than mcgregor did last full season

Our centre halves dont have a dominant, fuck football im just going to win every challenge, type centre half, souttar is as close to it but he's not good enough positionally and switches off far too much to be of consistent use

 

Butland has been brilliant, no doubt. But the defence as a whole, including the defensive midfielders, have done well.  

[The Archer 1,133]

Needs replaced,we should always be looking to upgrade and that includes Tav

[Ted E Bayer 484]

2 hours ago, The Beast said:

Miovski is a very good striker amd is likely destined to play at a higher level than Aberdeen/SPFL. He will cause problems to defenders much better than anyone in Scotland in the future.

Goldson could maybe have done slightly better in that one instance but imho there is no doubt whatsoever that he's still the best CB at the club by some distance. We do need to be heavily succession planning as he can't have too many more seasons left performing at his current level.

Probably agree with this, but I do think Goldson's last a yard of pace this season.

[dummiesoot 16,013]

Goldson never owns up to his own fuck ups, always looks to lay blame elsewhere. That is my biggest issue 

[Lord Lockin 3,913]

4 minutes ago, dummiesoot said:

Goldson never owns up to his own fuck ups, always looks to lay blame elsewhere. That is my biggest issue 

 

[The Beast 9,233]

3 hours ago, Jimfanciesthedude said:

So has jack butland, who has saved our centre halves on more occasions already than mcgregor did last full season

Our centre halves dont have a dominant, fuck football im just going to win every challenge, type centre half, souttar is as close to it but he's not good enough positionally and switches off far too much to be of consistent use

There are not too many of those sort of players that can do what you describe but also use the ball like a modern CB is expected to do. Even in the EPL it's quite rare to get a good balance of the two qualities. That big ponce Van Dijk is one, Romero, Stones, Saliba, Dias etc probably fall into that category but their value is measured in tens of millions.

 

[bluenoz 30,975]

When all is said and done, Goldson will easily be in the top ten CBs ever to play for the club. Never in the same category as Grieg or Gough, but a very good player for us all the same.

[esquire8 43,022]

4 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

When all is said and done, Goldson will easily be in the top ten CBs ever to play for the club. Never in the same category as Grieg or Gough, but a very good player for us all the same.

We've had ten centre backs in the past twenty to thirty years alone that were much better than Goldson. 

Will be looked back on as a good defender at times that should've achieved more.

[The Godfather 72,083]

10 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

When all is said and done, Goldson will easily be in the top ten CBs ever to play for the club. Never in the same category as Grieg or Gough, but a very good player for us all the same.

Nah no chance.

Boughi,Cuellar,Weir,Amo,Moore and that's only going back to early 2000's. Butcher, Gough, Roberts, MacKinnon, McPherson before that too.

Goldson isn't even in discussion for the top 10.

[Albertz85 944]

3 minutes ago, The Godfather said:

Nah no chance.

Boughi,Cuellar,Weir,Amo,Moore and that's only going back to early 2000's. Butcher, Gough, Roberts, MacKinnon, McPherson before that too.

Goldson isn't even in discussion for the top 10.

You forgot Emilson Cibari mate 

[Albertz85 944]

16 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

We've had ten centre backs in the past twenty to thirty years alone that were much better than Goldson. 

Will be looked back on as a good defender at times that should've achieved more.

For wherever people rank him and for the odd clanger he has, our team generally looks weaker at the back without him in my opinion 

[MarcusDa Beasley 1,039]

As much as people love a no-nonsense defender who goes through everything then just boots the ball to fuck…as a team with 70% possession in most games, there’s no point in us having one. Katic being a prime example.

[bluenoz 30,975]

16 minutes ago, The Godfather said:

Nah no chance.

Boughi,Cuellar,Weir,Amo,Moore and that's only going back to early 2000's. Butcher, Gough, Roberts, MacKinnon, McPherson before that too.

Goldson isn't even in discussion for the top 10.

 

I agree with most of them - Boughie, Weir, Amo, Butcher, Gough & Greig.

Had Cuellar played more, for sure.

I just feel we underestimate Goldson's contribution sometimes.

[Rangers_no1 32,640]

Jim is spot on, people go on about our defence but Butland has stopped many clear chances this season.

Yes that's his job, but solely looking at goals lost is not telling the complete picture regarding our defence this season.

[Malkytfp1 18,618]

2 hours ago, The Archer said:

Needs replaced,we should always be looking to upgrade and that includes Tav

Pish. There are plenty other areas of the pitch need improved before Goldson. 

[Roy Hobbs 2,193]

16 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Jim is spot on, people go on about our defence but Butland has stopped many clear chances this season.

Yes that's his job, but solely looking at goals lost is not telling the complete picture regarding our defence this season.

We've conceded 12 Vs an XgA of 14. 

[The Godfather 72,083]

35 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

I agree with most of them - Boughie, Weir, Amo, Butcher, Gough & Greig.

Had Cuellar played more, for sure.

I just feel we underestimate Goldson's contribution sometimes.

Agreed. He's nowhere near as bad as some make out. Still our best CB

[dummiesoot 16,013]

1 hour ago, bluenoz said:

When all is said and done, Goldson will easily be in the top ten CBs ever to play for the club. Never in the same category as Grieg or Gough, but a very good player for us all the same.

No fucking chance 

[The Ibrox Derry 8,932]

1 hour ago, bluenoz said:

When all is said and done, Goldson will easily be in the top ten CBs ever to play for the club. Never in the same category as Grieg or Gough, but a very good player for us all the same.

Would rather have both him and Tav than not have them.

Both have been terrific signings and servants to the club.

Will need replaced one day, probably at a cost of £££ millions.

[MisterC 12,306]

He's the best defender of the past decade but let's face it there's not much competition for that.

He has been good and yes he's had slumps in form and made some stupid mistakes but show me a player who hasn't. The pros outweigh the cons

[The Ibrox Derry 8,932]

Gough was fucking shite in his 1st 2 to 3 seasons at ibrox.

He made many's a howler.

Alot more than Goldson did in his first 2 to 3 seasons.

[SPWF 8,298]

2 hours ago, dummiesoot said:

Goldson never owns up to his own fuck ups, always looks to lay blame elsewhere. That is my biggest issue 

He even did it the other night. Got up and looked across at Souttar/Tav