SkylineBlue 24,254 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 I think he has potential, but he's far too raw to be the main man in the midfield, and my concern is that we're paying £4.5m from the summer budget but we still need to recruit quality, experienced players to play beside him. Laudrupsleftfoot and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,492 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 27 minutes ago, AberfeldyBlue said: does anyone think he has any impact next week? Maybe impact on my health !!! HG5 and Bobby Hume 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,267 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Aren't we obligated to buy him? He has a great work ethic and attitude, but he still has a lot to improve on. Good player. Although, no idea how he got motm today, then again, the options were few. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dado'sMulls 2,640 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 58 minutes ago, AberfeldyBlue said: does anyone think he has any impact next week? Scores 2 yaaaassssss Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,924 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 8 hours ago, psb07158 said: Knew this boy wasn’t a proper B2B midfielder when folk were saying he’d played LB and LW too A proper B2B midfielder better be at the top of Koppen’s shopping list or he can GTF too. They picked up O’Reilly for peanuts and he’s the best player in the country. Do we really need a b2b, given we spend most of our time camped 40 yards from the opponents goal, We probably need a mix of players who can take a man on and drag opponents out of position, and guys who can break the lines of defence we face J-Maestro and Bobby Hume 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,448 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 On 05/05/2024 at 22:40, SkylineBlue said: I think he has potential, but he's far too raw to be the main man in the midfield, and my concern is that we're paying £4.5m from the summer budget but we still need to recruit quality, experienced players to play beside him. That's the exact reason we can buy him, and that's what we need to do, he's a player who has the potentiel to be our record sale, but we would already have no chance of getting him if he was further along in his development, the club do a lot of things wrong, but pushing the boat out for a guy like Diomande isn't one of them. It's just a part of the blueprint for this process we need to get on board with, because it's the only way the club will make enough money to continually reinvent the team, you need patience when you buy and acceptance when you sell, there'll probably only ever be one full season where you'll ever be particularly happy with a player, and when that happens, you know it'll be time to move him on and cash in for as much as possible. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineBlue 24,254 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 5 minutes ago, NixonRFC said: That's the exact reason we can buy him, and that's what we need to do, he's a player who has the potentiel to be our record sale, but we would already have no chance of getting him if he was further along in his development, the club do a lot of things wrong, but pushing the boat out for a guy like Diamonde isn't one of them. It's just a part of the blueprint for this process we need to get on board with, because it's the only way the club will make enough money to continually reinvent the team, you need patience when you buy and acceptance when you sell, there'll probably only ever be one full season where you'll ever be particularly happy with a player, and when that happens, you know it'll be time to move him on and cash in for as much as possible. I know that. We also don't have a choice in whether or not we buy him because the obligation is in the deal. My worry is that he isn't ready to run a midfield or have one built around him, which means we're spending a massive chunk of money and need to spend more in the midfield for quality in the here and now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,448 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 10 minutes ago, SkylineBlue said: I know that. We also don't have a choice in whether or not we buy him because the obligation is in the deal. My worry is that he isn't ready to run a midfield or have one built around him, which means we're spending a massive chunk of money and need to spend more in the midfield for quality in the here and now. Most midfielders that we sign using this tactic won't be ready to run a midfield, it's just something we need to accept, it's the only way to generate cash, as much as I hate using them as an example, 2 year ago they signed o'riley for about a million quid, he was nowhere near the levels he is now, and they'll probably sell him in the summer for 20, if they were trying to sign him now they wouldn't be afford to buy his bad leg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Specky Forum Organiser 66,050 Posted May 7 Popular Post Share Posted May 7 Criticism is way OTT. We can't expect to implement a trading model when we're so quick to jump on a player who fits that model perfectly and not allow him the time to develop. Young, mobile, athletic, positive in possession, we all wanted that type of midfielder. He hasn't set the world alight but the potential is there for all to see. Bringing him in early gets him a head start for next season where hopefully he won't be playing with a half arsed Lundstram and a poser like Cantwell. J-Maestro, five stars, Darth Bear and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,725 Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 I still think he’s going to be a class player for us. I’m somewhat worried about his occasional slack passing on Saturday though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,324 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Think he could be one of our key players next season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Jela 20,647 Posted May 7 Popular Post Share Posted May 7 Whatever midfield we put out on Saturday has to have him and Sterling. cascadeshrimp, bluenoz, Hadron Collider and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 33,095 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 9 hours ago, NixonRFC said: That's the exact reason we can buy him, and that's what we need to do, he's a player who has the potentiel to be our record sale Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,647 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 3 hours ago, Rangers_no1 said: Heard that for just about every player we've signed under 25. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco87 708 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 He is suffering from the legacy of years of poor recruitment. In an ideal world he (or most signings) are coming in to the squad at a similar level or maybe slight improvement on those already there, with the view to developing them to improve us and ultimately sell them on. The mess we have made of things since 55 means we are essentially going into another summer needing a massive overhaul of the squad and are needing players to come in and immediately be key players which is going to require some very astute business / miracles given our budget. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 3,022 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 A fair few on here weren’t up for spending the money on Tillman either. £4.5 on Diomande and (similarly if we’d got Tillman) is good business. It’s the Davies, Dessers, Lammers even Colak type to an extent that have been the problems. If those had been players similar in profile and quality to Diomande we’d have a young and talented core to the team that could go for 5-6 seasons. And each Summer it would be a case of selling 1 and reinvesting into 2-3 areas that need strengthened. Rather than the bloated, ageing, injury prone mess we have at the moment with no sellable assets. And the annual 7 player overhaul needed. NixonRFC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,267 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 25 minutes ago, OrangeRab said: A fair few on here weren’t up for spending the money on Tillman either. £4.5 on Diomande and (similarly if we’d got Tillman) is good business. It’s the Davies, Dessers, Lammers even Colak type to an extent that have been the problems. If those had been players similar in profile and quality to Diomande we’d have a young and talented core to the team that could go for 5-6 seasons. And each Summer it would be a case of selling 1 and reinvesting into 2-3 areas that need strengthened. Rather than the bloated, ageing, injury prone mess we have at the moment with no sellable assets. And the annual 7 player overhaul needed. Btw, how much is PSV willing to pay Bayern for Tillman? His stock keeps rising. Meanwhile, we will be lucky to get our money back for Matondo, Davies, Lammers or Dessers. We could make money on Tav & Goldson if the Saudis come in, but I see Sterling & Diomande as the real assets. Allan43 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan43 9 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 41 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Btw, how much is PSV willing to pay Bayern for Tillman? His stock keeps rising. Meanwhile, we will be lucky to get our money back for Matondo, Davies, Lammers or Dessers. We could make money on Tav & Goldson if the Saudis come in, but I see Sterling & Diomande as the real assets. This🙌 would be building a team around sterling, diomande, raskin and butland, with diomande we have to take a risk but if he has a great season next year then he goes for more money than bassey. bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee9 3,997 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 He needs legs next to him. It's that simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA1972 9,837 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 2 hours ago, Allan43 said: This🙌 would be building a team around sterling, diomande, raskin and butland, with diomande we have to take a risk but if he has a great season next year then he goes for more money than bassey. graeme_4 and nik2402 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,624 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 5 hours ago, Allan43 said: This🙌 would be building a team around sterling, diomande, raskin and butland, with diomande we have to take a risk but if he has a great season next year then he goes for more money than bassey. Raskin 😆 He's fucking dug meat Dan Deacon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineBlue 24,254 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 7 hours ago, Allan43 said: This🙌 would be building a team around sterling, diomande, raskin and butland, with diomande we have to take a risk but if he has a great season next year then he goes for more money than bassey. Building a team around a guy who can't get a game off the bench, and never impresses whenever he does? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 110,090 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 7 hours ago, Allan43 said: This🙌 would be building a team around sterling, diomande, raskin and butland, with diomande we have to take a risk but if he has a great season next year then he goes for more money than bassey. 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,725 Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 9 hours ago, King Jela said: Heard that for just about every player we've signed under 25. He’s just desperate to see everyone call Diomande shite if you read his posts tbf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,261 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 8 hours ago, Allan43 said: This🙌 would be building a team around sterling, diomande, raskin and butland, with diomande we have to take a risk but if he has a great season next year then he goes for more money than bassey. 1. Build a team around Raskin? What's he done to justify that? 2. Diomamde goes for over £20m next summer? Are you serious, based on what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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