graeme_4’s official Clement discussion thread

[.Williamson. 88,051]

10 minutes ago, Blueshoff said:

Why wouldn't Muscat turn us down?  Probably less salary and we are no longer an attractive option - look at the situation with the board, squad and budget.

Utter nonsense. Rangers will always be an attractive option and especially to a manager looking to build their CV and add silverware to their name. We play in a league that has two dominant sides in it and at the flick of a switch the tide can turn either way.

We’re a circus atm but it can be fixed fairly quickly in Scottish football when you’re Rangers or celtic because we absolutely dwarf everyone else in the league in terms of size. If Muscat is seriously offered the role there is zero chance he turns it down. Craig Moore was just defending his pals name by saying the ship had sailed.

[.Williamson. 88,051]

19 minutes ago, RM Monitor And Standards Officer said:

Genuinely dislike him tbh and think he's so far out of his depth it's unreal 

If only we’d listened to the Monaco fans this time last year mate

[Davy Vandenbroucke 27,149]

4 hours ago, Davy Vandenbroucke said:

[.Williamson. 88,051]

5 hours ago, Davy Vandenbroucke said:

I don’t understand why some people like that “Wilso54” are still peddling that shite about how this group of players regularly down tools for various managers. It’s not the same group of players ffs 

[Loyal72 14,253]

13 minutes ago, Davy Vandenbroucke said:

That actually pisses me off. The players revolted because we wanted rid of Goldson and Tavernier?

Fucking bin them as well as the manager.

Fuck this group of pish dictating our club.

[NixonRFC 1,650]

Next 10 League games before the New Year Old Firm

(H) St Mirren
(A) Aberdeen
(H) Hearts
(H) Dundee United
(A) St Johnstone
(H) Kilmarnock
(A) Ross County
(H) Dundee
(A) St Mirren
(A) Motherwell

Outwith going to Pittodrie, that's a fantastic run of games for a new manager to build up a bit of steam heading into the New Year, even with Clement I'm expecting 9 wins out of those 10 games, with the game at Pittodrie being the one I'm unsure about.

Winning those 9 games might not give us the feel good factor you'd hope it would though because there's 3 really tough European fixtures within that list, and the likelihood of an Old Firm cup final sandwiched in to, so if those games go against us as expected, toiling our way through league wins won't be enough, I'm convinced though that we'll win more points than the tims before the next Old Firm, but if we can't beat them it's irrelevant.

[KBOO72 4,870]

Sick of hearing all this pish too. Players downing tools or going in a huff because they don't like the manager. 

Where's their professional pride ffs. You're at a club where winning is everything and if you do your best and your teammates do their best you're in a 50/50 race to be league champions (in normal circumstances). 

That result on Saturday should have been a rocket up the arse of our players, an added turbo boost of motivation if they had any fucking hunger, desire or belief to go out and win our game and put themselves back in a title race. 

The manager is a major issue clearly, but it's still and always will be the players who cross the white line and win, lose or draw. Do you think any of them had the mindset of "we're fucking winning today boys, will it be tough, probably aye, but we're better than them and if we go out there and play with more energy than them, run faster then them, try harder than them and want it more than them then they can't fucking beat us" 

Do they fuck. They're a bunch of shitebag bastards, quite happy picking up a wage and offering fuck all in return. 

[Ladytonbear 398]

5 hours ago, Colin Traive said:

So if he gets sacked and A N Other gets the job and neither the new DOF or the new CEO rate the new manager, what then?

You wouldn’t sign a player with a new manager appointment imminent so why make a managerial change before appointing the men he will report to? Exact same principle.

New CEO and/or DOF before any managerial change.

Putting the cart before the horse will make us look even more incompetent.

This all day. On top of that, who would you trust in the current set up to appoint a new manager?

[Laudrupsleftfoot 12,482]

Lawrence not liking and mouthing off about Clement when he plays him near enough every week doesn’t particularly sound likely.

Raskin or someone on the periphery sure.

[BlueKnight87 18,009]

14 minutes ago, Ladytonbear said:

This all day. On top of that, who would you trust in the current set up to appoint a new manager?

Who do you trust to get the right CEO?

This is a group who after months came up with Gillespie and he knocked it back!

[rangersross 6,742]

Remember that brief time when the closest we got to ‘controversy’ was a few youth players meeting to play FIFA? Those were the days. 

[Swagger 9,086]

41 minutes ago, KBOO72 said:

Sick of hearing all this pish too. Players downing tools or going in a huff because they don't like the manager. 

Where's their professional pride ffs. You're at a club where winning is everything and if you do your best and your teammates do their best you're in a 50/50 race to be league champions (in normal circumstances). 

That result on Saturday should have been a rocket up the arse of our players, an added turbo boost of motivation if they had any fucking hunger, desire or belief to go out and win our game and put themselves back in a title race. 

The manager is a major issue clearly, but it's still and always will be the players who cross the white line and win, lose or draw. Do you think any of them had the mindset of "we're fucking winning today boys, will it be tough, probably aye, but we're better than them and if we go out there and play with more energy than them, run faster then them, try harder than them and want it more than them then they can't fucking beat us" 

Do they fuck. They're a bunch of shitebag bastards, quite happy picking up a wage and offering fuck all in return. 

You’re right but we are now a club that used to win things. 
Our captains season highlights included games where we lost to celtic( which has become the norm), our players celebrate beating St Johnstone like they’ve won a trophy, our manager says celtic have an advantage because their players are older - not a single player in our squad has any sort of presence about them and very few if any actually care. They’d have went home last night and probably not been too bothered about another shambles. 
Our board would be delighted with a cup and second place every season 

I don’t know what the fuck we are watching but it’s not Rangers Football club. 
 

Fans are becoming detached from this shit show of a club. 
 

I can’t stand the sight of most of our gutless fucking players 

[cr3_bear 15,629]

1 hour ago, Davy Vandenbroucke said:

When is he talking about pin pointing it and what is he alluding to ?

Was it around the Motherwell defeat as that came a week after probably our best performance under Clement when we destroyed hearts 5-0 at Ibrox which we followed up with a hard fought 2-1 come from behind Victory at rugby park in the midweek. At that the time I admit I personally thought this is the sort of week potential champions produce.Look back through the clubs social media from around then and it was nothing but positivity the squad were hitting out with 

[Davy Vandenbroucke 27,149]

4 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

Lawrence not liking and mouthing off about Clement when he plays him near enough every week doesn’t particularly sound likely.

Raskin or someone on the periphery sure.

On the other hand, he does have a habit of making poor decisions while drunk.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-50041085.amp

[DrLaudrup 5,158]

1 hour ago, Davy Vandenbroucke said:

On the other hand, he does have a habit of making poor decisions while drunk.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-50041085.amp

Ryan Giggs as a character witness no wonder he was convicted. 

[Rangers_no1 34,842]

2 hours ago, NixonRFC said:

even with Clement I'm expecting 9 wins out of those 10 games, with the game at Pittodrie being the one I'm unsure about.

😅😂🤣

[NixonRFC 1,650]

1 minute ago, Rangers_no1 said:

😅😂🤣

I know, but it is what it is, other than Pittodrie, there's not one game there that I genuinely don't think we'll win, the away games are diddy games, the only biggish games from those games I expect to win are Hearts and Dundee Utd, but being at Ibrox I expect the win.

[demise 3,720]

The amount of times he mentions his previous clubs is mind blowing. Hes also a shite manager. Get him to fuck. 

[gmcf 35,636]

12 hours ago, KBOO72 said:

Sick of hearing all this pish too. Players downing tools or going in a huff because they don't like the manager. 

Where's their professional pride ffs. You're at a club where winning is everything and if you do your best and your teammates do their best you're in a 50/50 race to be league champions (in normal circumstances). 

That result on Saturday should have been a rocket up the arse of our players, an added turbo boost of motivation if they had any fucking hunger, desire or belief to go out and win our game and put themselves back in a title race. 

The manager is a major issue clearly, but it's still and always will be the players who cross the white line and win, lose or draw. Do you think any of them had the mindset of "we're fucking winning today boys, will it be tough, probably aye, but we're better than them and if we go out there and play with more energy than them, run faster then them, try harder than them and want it more than them then they can't fucking beat us" 

Do they fuck. They're a bunch of shitebag bastards, quite happy picking up a wage and offering fuck all in return. 

There's no doubt the players are as culpable of this as the manager. 

I get we can't afford technically gifted players that we were used to but the very least we should expect is a bit of effort and passion, none of which have been evident since last March or thereabouts. We've been playing Sunday League football for months.

And it's a lethal combination when you have a manager that just accepts that.

[B1872 22,058]

1 hour ago, demise said:

The amount of times he mentions his previous clubs is mind blowing. Hes also a shite manager. Get him to fuck. 

He’s a walking fucking contradiction. He kept going on about how amazing we’d be in October, now we are in October he keeps talking about the past and our clean sheets and victory over Ross County. Unfortunately due to the mess of the running of the club he’ll be here for the foreseeable. Doubt we’ll be seeing a CEO until January which means we’ll be stuck with Clement until at least March/April. If it plays out how I think we’ll be finishing third this season whilst playing in front of 30k fans at Ibrox the rest of the season.

[STEPPS BOY 78,063]

11 hours ago, NixonRFC said:

I know, but it is what it is, other than Pittodrie, there's not one game there that I genuinely don't think we'll win, the away games are diddy games, the only biggish games from those games I expect to win are Hearts and Dundee Utd, but being at Ibrox I expect the win.

You’d back us to win all the home games but we’re at stage were away games are 50/50 whether we win or not.

[graeme_4 38,082]

6 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

You’d back us to win all the home games but we’re at stage were away games are 50/50 whether we win or not.

Probably less than 50/50 if you look at his stats, even worse this season specifically where we’ve 1 away goal in the league. 

[Negri's lovechild 15,686]

10 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

You’d back us to win all the home games but we’re at stage were away games are 50/50 whether we win or not.

1 away goal in 4 games probably suggests you're being generous even saying we're  50/50.

It's a shambles mate. 

[B1872 22,058]

14 hours ago, NixonRFC said:

Next 10 League games before the New Year Old Firm

(H) St Mirren
(A) Aberdeen
(H) Hearts
(H) Dundee United
(A) St Johnstone
(H) Kilmarnock
(A) Ross County
(H) Dundee
(A) St Mirren
(A) Motherwell

Outwith going to Pittodrie, that's a fantastic run of games for a new manager to build up a bit of steam heading into the New Year, even with Clement I'm expecting 9 wins out of those 10 games, with the game at Pittodrie being the one I'm unsure about.

Winning those 9 games might not give us the feel good factor you'd hope it would though because there's 3 really tough European fixtures within that list, and the likelihood of an Old Firm cup final sandwiched in to, so if those games go against us as expected, toiling our way through league wins won't be enough, I'm convinced though that we'll win more points than the tims before the next Old Firm, but if we can't beat them it's irrelevant.

There’s absolutely no chance we win 9 out of the 10 games. We’ve already drew with second bottom Hearts and were a missed penalty away from drawing with bottom of the table Hibs. We are not a good team at all. We’ve laboured to wins over newly promoted Dundee United and a horrendously bad St Johnstone. Also don’t forget we held on for the last half an hour at Hampden against Motherwell. We’ve played 8 league games so far- won 5, drew 1 and lost 2. We’ll be lucky to win 6 out of the next 10. In fact it’ll be 6 out of 9 as the sheep will scud us.

[NixonRFC 1,650]

9 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

You’d back us to win all the home games but we’re at stage were away games are 50/50 whether we win or not.

I agree with you that away games feels like Russian Roulette at the minute, but outwith Pittodrie, I'd say even we won't fuck these games up, going to these grounds is a far different proposition than going to the venues we've had to go to so far, Tynecastle, the piggery, Tannadice, Rugby Park and next up Pittodrie is probably the hardest set of away fixtures you could give us, if you were hand picking a first five games.

(A) St Johnstone
(A) Ross County
(A) St Mirren
(A) Motherwell