Drunk and disorderly. 14,462 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Club 1872 Statement on UEFA Charges 28 August, 2019 Club 1872 would like to echo the message from Rangers regarding the damaging charges from UEFA both in relation to the St Josephs match at Ibrox and the recent game in Poland against Legia Warsaw. It is clear that UEFA has taken a decision to class sectarian singing in the same bracket as racism and as a result has a clear and rapidly escalating framework of punishments for any club charged with such offences. This means that we will quickly arrive at the point where Ibrox may be closed for a home European tie if outbreaks of sporadic sectarian singing continue. This will not only effect tens of thousands of our own supporters but also the management team and players, who would have to operate in such circumstances. This is particularly frustrating as the atmosphere generated at European games at Ibrox this season has been largely free of such sectarian songs. To be absolutely clear, songs, words and terms classed as sectarian by UEFA include ‘The Billy Boys’, any reference to “fenians” or any pejorative terms about Catholics or the Pope. The charges do not relate only to one song but to anything in the brackets above, including add ons to otherwise inoffensive songs. We share some of the concerns over the lack of transparency, accountability and consistency in the operations of FARE. However, those concerns cannot be properly addressed while we are in a position where FARE can provide UEFA with video evidence of sectarian singing involving even a small number of Rangers supporters, as was the case in Warsaw. Club 1872 fully supports Rangers’ Everyone Anyone campaign. It is absolutely clear in the discussions that we have had in the past few weeks and months that the club will not tolerate sectarian behaviour. We will continue to work with them to ensure that there is constructive and meaningful engagement with supporters on this issue going forward. Every single Rangers supporter must now take responsibility for promoting a positive image of our club and support. Ibrox is one of the most impressive arenas in European football when it is full and noisy. We have a host of ways to generate that unique atmosphere without reverting to songs which will see the club sanctioned. Let’s get Ibrox rocking on Thursday night and roar our team into the groups stages of the Europa League. Issued by Supporters Voice Limited, a Club 1872 company middli, Biggarbear, Bluepeter9 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blue Nosed Babe 20,697 Posted August 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2019 Seems clear to me what can't be sung. Also seems clear that we can't go after FARE until we stop giving them ammunition. Get Derry's Walls sung full pelt, the chorus is not illegal and highlights defiance. surfsup2, AlCapone, Ontario Bear and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBF2 3,540 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 They should be asking the board for answers as to why BF1 have been singled out for punishment and hung out to dry in the public eye for this. Blumhoilann, Malvern, 72barca and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blue Nosed Babe 20,697 Posted August 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottBF2 said: They should be asking the board for answers as to why BF1 have been singled out for punishment and hung out to dry in the public eye for this. That may come in time. Let's get UEFA and FARE dealt with first. That is the bigger priority. AlCapone, BookWorm, surfsup2 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueVanguard 6,652 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Has FARE been to parkhead? Big tim in my work was saying they where singing secterian songs against AIK. Also heard " the famine is over " song is under the banned song list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA1972 9,587 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, ScottBF2 said: They should be asking the board for answers as to why BF1 have been singled out for punishment and hung out to dry in the public eye for this. They answer to the board not ask for answers from them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Virtuoso 27,180 Posted August 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, GazzasOrangeFlute said: Has FARE been to parkhead? Big tim in my work was saying they where singing secterian songs against AIK. Also heard " the famine is over " song is under the banned song list. Aye...in hospitality 🙄 BlueAvenger, Courtyard Bear, mearns loyal and 8 others 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,871 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 SOS, 1872....... they say the right things but they are not seeing it ( or refuse to say it ) for how it is. The vanguard bears are the only one's fighting. We are getting fucked over. Neil1418 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, ScottBF2 said: They should be asking the board for answers as to why BF1 have been singled out for punishment and hung out to dry in the public eye for this. The video evidence of the offence was of the singing coming from BF1 I think. This is why they have been singled out. I do feel for BF1 as the atmosphere they bring is great, but they are the most likely to be monitored as this is where the singing is clearest from. If FARE or the likes are in the stadium, you can be sure they are going to be set up close to BF1 as this is where they will be most likely to catch the singing most clearly. JCDBigBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyc06 6,915 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 "Club 1872 would like to echo the message from Rangers" Of course it fucking would!! BookWorm, Courtyard Bear, ForeverAndEver and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 4,654 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 The club will do fuck all about FARE Bristol loyal, Copland bear and Blumhoilann 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,697 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, GazzasOrangeFlute said: Has FARE been to parkhead? Big tim in my work was saying they where singing secterian songs against AIK. Also heard " the famine is over " song is under the banned song list. It is, has been since Walls v PF Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave30 8,709 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Sounds like we are about to have the ‘what’s political and what’s sectarian’ argument again. Quality. 8 minutes ago, ScottBF2 said: They should be asking the board for answers as to why BF1 have been singled out for punishment and hung out to dry in the public eye for this. The board wanted to make a statement to the fans “we will shut down BF1 we won’t think twice about banning any of you cunts either, toe the line” They are playing hard ball, at least that’s what I gather from it, the board believe they are beyond reproach on this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blue Nosed Babe 20,697 Posted August 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, bluenoz said: SOS, 1872....... they say the right things but they are not seeing it ( or refuse to say it ) for how it is. The vanguard bears are the only one's fighting. We are getting fucked over. No we are not. We just have to be clever. We cannot fight UEFA on this. bluenose48, Biggarbear, JCDBigBear and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,871 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, Blue Nosed Babe said: No we are not. We just have to be clever. We cannot fight UEFA on this. Unfortunately this goes beyond TBB my love. I am totally against continuing to sing that song but this is a more convoluted issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,969 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, ScottBF2 said: They should be asking the board for answers as to why BF1 have been singled out for punishment and hung out to dry in the public eye for this. ForeverAndEver and scottyc06 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyc06 6,915 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bigdave30 said: Sounds like we are about to have the ‘what’s political and what’s sectarian’ argument again. Quality. The board wanted to make a statement to the fans “we will shut down BF1 we won’t think twice about banning any of you cunts either, toe the line” They are playing hard ball, at least that’s what I gather from it, the board believe they are beyond reproach on this one. They done that already by closing down the section! Why are they then bringing it up & directly naming them in statements regarding our away support? Theyre fucking at it!! Bigdave30 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,697 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Unfortunately this goes beyond TBB my love. I am totally against continuing to sing that song but this is a more convoluted issue. One step at a time. We know what we can't sing so we sing what we can! surfsup2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,871 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, Blue Nosed Babe said: One step at a time. We know what we can't sing so we sing what we can! absolutely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,530 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: See how in another thread you said another appointment coming to the board or whatever? Was it Dempster mate? STEPPS BOY 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,969 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 I’ll be honest here, i’d rather suffer full stadium closure or kicked out Europa league than hear our fans singing that fucking atomic kitten song again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup2 1,537 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: See how in another thread you said another appointment coming to the board or whatever? Was it Dempster mate? Hopefully we need someone strong Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, GazzasOrangeFlute said: Has FARE been to parkhead? Big tim in my work was saying they where singing secterian songs against AIK. Also heard " the famine is over " song is under the banned song list. The top man provably has with his wife to cheer them on and wave his Palestine flag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,530 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: I’ll be honest here, i’d rather suffer full stadium closure or kicked out Europa league than hear our fans singing that fucking atomic kitten song again Dinny do that to me mate, absolute bop Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,969 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Dinny do that to me mate, absolute bop You and your ilk have been warned pal. If i hear that i’m going full TBB, Super Rangers,FTP megamix ! BookWorm, ForeverAndEver and Essandoh 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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