Popular Post BlueKnight87 17,914 Posted December 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: The only thing I can think re the Rangers silence is that they know the vote is going to fail and the football authorities have no where to go after it but that’s probably giving us far too much credit. If only mate. I think it's more likely the club know it's going to pass. We have not learned from mistakes of the past. Soon as the government announcement was confirmed. We should have been proactive. Statement straight out that we will comply with the government regulations and that the fixtures need to be completed as is. Instead scumbag fc are streets ahead again in setting the narrative of it's for the fans and best for Scottish football that we break early. Lessons not learned and doomed to repeat the same mistakes our board. SteveEarle, krautrock, DrLaudrup and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,525 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: So why are you wanting us to give them what they want? The narrative is about the fans. Unless the government change the rules then what? I think it'll be 500 fans from now to the spring. So given we can't play with no fans. How do we complete this season? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,709 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just now, KingKirk said: The narrative is about the fans. Unless the government change the rules then what? I think it'll be 500 fans from now to the spring. So given we can't play with no fans. How do we complete this season? What are you actually on about You said give them what they want and bring the break forward, I'm asking you why you want to do that when it isn't going to make a difference to fans getting into the games? All it does is make them stronger and us weaker Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,827 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, kelvd1873 said: The silence from Rangers is deafening btw, fucking brutal!! Think they’re too busy sending out emails telling us about their latest range of training gear or their latest sale to make a simple statement mate, Hardly a day goes by where I don’t get one, Don’t begrudge a penny of what I spend btw, Just be nice to that we’re not taking this shite lying down ffs. Bears r us, Bad Robot and HG5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 5,099 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: The only thing I can think re the Rangers silence is that they know the vote is going to fail and the football authorities have no where to go after it but that’s probably giving us far too much credit. We just sit meekly back and take it. Aside from the banter years, in all the years I’ve followed us I can’t remember us having a weaker board with these matters. Bad Robot and krautrock 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,372 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, weeguy said: So why do they not want 18 team “top” league? We’ll agree to disagree. Presumably because they know they wouldn't be given it because TV wouldn't want it. And the Premiership TV and sponsorship cash would be divided amongst more teams, so they'd lose money. Paisley Blue Loyal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 31,373 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 42 minutes ago, scottyc06 said: Surely if you take away the individual benefits for each club the common sense approach is to play the games just now no? There’s absolutely no chance that postponing for 3 weeks allows fans to be in so makes it pointless. If you are indeed doing it to ensure fans are present then the games need rescheduled & trying to find space for at the very least 3 games isn’t feasible! Surely the only logical way to do this is to play the games? That would seem the common senses thing to do, but we are not dealing in common sense, we are dealing with one club seeing a possible advantage by bringing the break forward, Scotland in 2021. Paisley Blue Loyal, Grundy, magic8ball and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 63,535 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 43 minutes ago, Mr Soprano said: Not even a peep from Rangers. Fuck me. If and when we do, we’ll be big bad Rangers. Bluekev, mark1963 and HG5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post McEwan's Lager 32,118 Posted December 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Dont know if it would make any difference to be honest. If we come out and say we are apposed to it, its just going to go through anyway and we will be left with egg on our face. Best we could do is come out demanding that we are not put at an unfair advantage with players being away on international duty for the ACON. If it is allowable for this thing to be decided by a vote of the clubs, and we are the only club not wanting it, then we are shit out of luck. If this can be challenged, then its a different kettle of fish, but by the sounds of it, it cant. No point in picking a fight if there is no way we can win. It's not just setting the narrative. The club need to be telling fans what their position is and how they intend to progress with games on a BCD basis. We have 40 odd thousand season ticket holders who again are not going to be able to get full value for what they paid for. It's not like this was a wildly unlikely scenario. The club should have had preparations and a plan in place for going BCD and it doesn't take 24 hours to knock up a release updating supporters in that. All they have to issue is a statement which: - States the club's position in relation to proposed moving of the winter break - What the club are doing to prepare for further games BCD - How ticketing arrangements will work for 500 places The Specky Forum Organiser, Bearsden bear, plumbGER and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueKnight87 17,914 Posted December 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2021 We know why scum fc want the break early. But the other clubs do they genuinely belive that in 3 weeks they'll suddenly get bigger crowds back in again. Scottish football in a nutshell: graeme_4, plymouthranger, Geo17 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,525 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, The Specky Liar said: What are you actually on about You said give them what they want and bring the break forward, I'm asking you why you want to do that when it isn't going to make a difference to fans getting into the games? All it does is make them stronger and us weaker How does it? The situation ain't gonna change between now and January mate so there will be zero football played in January. Rangers are winning this league mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,709 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, KingKirk said: How does it? The situation ain't gonna change between now and January mate so there will be zero football played in January. Rangers are winning this league mate I honestly cant even have a conversation with you, like talking to a brick wall Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 To be honest I don't see what the board could usefully say at this time. This vote is going to be passed anyway. Perhaps better to make a statement tomorrow pointing out the folly with no crowds expected before March/April. Bearsden bear and Bluekev 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MurrayWilson 3,726 Posted December 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Dont know if it would make any difference to be honest. If we come out and say we are apposed to it, its just going to go through anyway and we will be left with egg on our face. Best we could do is come out demanding that we are not put at an unfair advantage with players being away on international duty for the ACON. If it is allowable for this thing to be decided by a vote of the clubs, and we are the only club not wanting it, then we are shit out of luck. If this can be challenged, then its a different kettle of fish, but by the sounds of it, it cant. No point in picking a fight if there is no way we can win. We have to absolutely insist any rescheduling doesnt unfairly effect us due player availability. If we dont at least do this then we may as well chuck it. Bearsden bear, Paisley Blue Loyal, Bad Robot and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave30 9,201 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, KingKirk said: How does it? The situation ain't gonna change between now and January mate so there will be zero football played in January. Rangers are winning this league mate Because if we play them on the second they have no time to get their injured players back up to fitness for a start 😂 HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,407 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, Bill8972 said: BBC Scottish Premiership clubs have been asked to vote on when the winter break should be introduced. The three options are to pause as planned after 3 January, start the break after the Boxing Day fixtures or begin the hiatus before Sunday's games. The SPFL board are encouraging clubs not to vote for the third option due to the few dates available to play games. Should option two be chosen, a return to play would take place in the week beginning Monday 17 January. There would be midweek fixtures that week to make up for the postponed rounds of matches. Clubs have been asked to inform the SPFL of their preference by 17:00 GMT on Wednesday and Dundee United have already expressed support for bringing the winter break forward. So by the very logic they don’t want option 3 to be pursued they are acknowledging if the games we are now needlessly reschedule cannot be played there is going to be a problem At a bare minimum we as a club have to ask what the answer to that is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Specky Forum Organiser 69,709 Posted December 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2021 There's a pretty big open goal for Rangers to focus on in any statement, if boxing day games go ahead with no fans and the following 2 are postponed to allow fans back in it means certain clubs are going to lose out financially and some aren't, that's not fair at all. RS4_wul, murzo, HG5 and 11 others 14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,525 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: I honestly cant even have a conversation with you, like talking to a brick wall Cool mate you think football will return in 3 weeks I don't simple really Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,709 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just now, KingKirk said: Cool mate you think football will return in 3 weeks I don't simple really You've literally changed your entire argument mid conversation The Godfather 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willis 20,919 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Dont know if it would make any difference to be honest. If we come out and say we are apposed to it, its just going to go through anyway and we will be left with egg on our face. Best we could do is come out demanding that we are not put at an unfair advantage with players being away on international duty for the ACON. If it is allowable for this thing to be decided by a vote of the clubs, and we are the only club not wanting it, then we are shit out of luck. If this can be challenged, then its a different kettle of fish, but by the sounds of it, it cant. No point in picking a fight if there is no way we can win. I agree, don't see why folk are always demanding a statement from the club 😅 it doesn't really do anything and folk will just complain that it's not enough anyway VanVeenRangers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,709 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just now, Willis said: I agree, don't see why folk are always demanding a statement from the club 😅 it doesn't really do anything and folk will just complain that it's not enough anyway If we tried to set the narrative early on it might have went different, instead we're just going to look bitter or inept now when it passes HG5, DrLaudrup, Bad Robot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,525 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, The Specky Liar said: You've literally changed your entire argument mid conversation No i didn't I asked you what happens in 3 weeks when nothing has changed. There will be no football in January imo. That doesn't make them stronger and us weaker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave30 9,201 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just now, KingKirk said: No i didn't I asked you what happens in 3 weeks when nothing has changed. There will be no football in January imo. That doesn't make them stronger and us weaker. Have you just been beamed onto earth today from the moon? Them having more time to rest players and treat injuries is an advantage. You could potentially have our fixtures rescheduled BCD’s and we could be minus all our players who are away to the African cup of nations, worst case scenario. HG5 and Paisley Blue Loyal 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blue Nosed Babe 21,512 Posted December 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2021 If celtic get what they want then we demand postponements due to Acon just to fuck everyone up Bearsden bear, esquire8, Geo17 and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Specky Forum Organiser 69,709 Posted December 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, KingKirk said: No i didn't I asked you what happens in 3 weeks when nothing has changed. There will be no football in January imo. That doesn't make them stronger and us weaker. Jota and Turnbull returning from injury and Kyogo being fully fit makes them far stronger chris182, Paisley Blue Loyal, HG5 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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