Amokachi 3,052 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, toolongawake said: I can confirm that he is a complete roaster. See Ross is linked with Brentford in the Record today, but with his contract situation I fancy there will be near constant lazy links clubs south of the border until we can get an extension tied up. His agent may also play a wee part in these links. DrLaudrup 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross-Gazza genius 1,915 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 hours ago, JackAlex93 said: Get him tied down on a new deal Rangers Apparently it's not for want of trying on our part. Dickie1963 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,684 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 I don’t blame him taking his time in honesty, staunch as he is. He’s not featured that much, and as much potential as he has guys like Lammers still seem to be ahead of him. That would frustrate me. Brentford seems lazy journalism and I can’t honestly imagine a young Rangers fan wanting to go there, but he’s broken into international set up and clearly sides will be looking at him. It is reasonable to see if he can get himself a regular starter, and can probably then get a better deal too… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number6 229 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Lovelace was essentially ahead of him aswell. So he will be considering his options. New manager seems to like him for now but will he play when we're at a full compliment is the question. I like him and hope he does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 11,399 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Papers reporting interest from Atalanta and Brentford. Roma too apparently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,077 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 4 hours ago, DrLaudrup said: I don’t blame him taking his time in honesty, staunch as he is. He’s not featured that much, and as much potential as he has guys like Lammers still seem to be ahead of him. That would frustrate me. Brentford seems lazy journalism and I can’t honestly imagine a young Rangers fan wanting to go there, but he’s broken into international set up and clearly sides will be looking at him. It is reasonable to see if he can get himself a regular starter, and can probably then get a better deal too… The money would be better, the league better, the players around him better and the exposure better. ready1873 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready1873 3,887 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 5 hours ago, DrLaudrup said: I don’t blame him taking his time in honesty, staunch as he is. He’s not featured that much, and as much potential as he has guys like Lammers still seem to be ahead of him. That would frustrate me. Brentford seems lazy journalism and I can’t honestly imagine a young Rangers fan wanting to go there, but he’s broken into international set up and clearly sides will be looking at him. It is reasonable to see if he can get himself a regular starter, and can probably then get a better deal too… Of course any of our youngsters would jump at the chance to go to Brentford. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,603 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 5 hours ago, DrLaudrup said: I don’t blame him taking his time in honesty, staunch as he is. He’s not featured that much, and as much potential as he has guys like Lammers still seem to be ahead of him. That would frustrate me. Brentford seems lazy journalism and I can’t honestly imagine a young Rangers fan wanting to go there, but he’s broken into international set up and clearly sides will be looking at him. It is reasonable to see if he can get himself a regular starter, and can probably then get a better deal too… I can imagine a young Rangers fan going somewhere he thinks may help his career and ultimately earn a decent wage to support a family. It’s not as hard as you think for these boys to quickly get their heads turned. cash is king Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,096 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 5 hours ago, DrLaudrup said: I don’t blame him taking his time in honesty, staunch as he is. He’s not featured that much, and as much potential as he has guys like Lammers still seem to be ahead of him. That would frustrate me. Brentford seems lazy journalism and I can’t honestly imagine a young Rangers fan wanting to go there, but he’s broken into international set up and clearly sides will be looking at him. It is reasonable to see if he can get himself a regular starter, and can probably then get a better deal too… Why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwallowsHisOwnSpunk 7,815 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 If I was a youngster at Rangers there’s no way I’m signing a new deal. There is zero pathway over the last few years, even our success story Patterson wasn’t getting game time over Tavernier. Every manager that comes in (Gerrard, Gio, Beale & Clement) give it soundbites about giving youth a chance but it’s very rare that they actually do. McCausland has got some game time and impressed but still seems behind Lammers & Cantwell in the pecking order, is he really going to get regular game time when the likes of Matondo, Lawrence & Roofe are back? Or when we inevitably sign a winger or two in January? Same with Bailey Rice, he impressed in pre season but hasn’t been seen since other than a few bench appearances, now since Clement has come in he seems even further away, if he’d stayed at Motherwell he’d be a 1st team regular by now. People are desperate to sign Scottish players from other SPFL teams and criticise the club for not doing so, but make excuse after excuse for not giving our own Scottish youth a chance. The youth players aren’t the finished product but they can only develop properly if they are given 1st team game time. Stop signing squad players like Dowell & Lammers and give the likes of Rice, Lowry & McCausland a go. threshold, LewisWATP, BlackpoolBear1952 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,677 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 minute ago, SwallowsHisOwnSpunk said: If I was a youngster at Rangers there’s no way I’m signing a new deal. There is zero pathway over the last few years, even our success story Patterson wasn’t getting game time over Tavernier. Every manager that comes in (Gerrard, Gio, Beale & Clement) give it soundbites about giving youth a chance but it’s very rare that they actually do. McCausland has got some game time and impressed but still seems behind Lammers & Cantwell in the pecking order, is he really going to get regular game time when the likes of Matondo, Lawrence & Roofe are back? Or when we inevitably sign a winger or two in January? Same with Bailey Rice, he impressed in pre season but hasn’t been seen since other than a few bench appearances, now since Clement has come in he seems even further away, if he’d stayed at Motherwell he’d be a 1st team regular by now Maybe give Clement the opportunity first, although I agree about the overall point. Bluekev 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,096 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 minute ago, SwallowsHisOwnSpunk said: If I was a youngster at Rangers there’s no way I’m signing a new deal. There is zero pathway over the last few years, even our success story Patterson wasn’t getting game time over Tavernier. Every manager that comes in (Gerrard, Gio, Beale & Clement) give it soundbites about giving youth a chance but it’s very rare that they actually do. McCausland has got some game time and impressed but still seems behind Lammers & Cantwell in the pecking order, is he really going to get regular game time when the likes of Matondo, Lawrence & Roofe are back? Or when we inevitably sign a winger or two in January? Same with Bailey Rice, he impressed in pre season but hasn’t been seen since other than a few bench appearances, now since Clement has come in he seems even further away, if he’d stayed at Motherwell he’d be a 1st team regular by now Of course he's going to be behind Cantwell J-Maestro and DrLaudrup 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwallowsHisOwnSpunk 7,815 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: Of course he's going to be behind Cantwell Obviously Cantwell’s a better player but is Lammers? I don’t think he is. and seeing as Cantwell is playing in McCauslands position to accommodate Lammers in the middle that’s the reason I listed Cantwell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie1963 2,358 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 He was 20 in May. We have played him 5 times. And he has 1 cap. I really hope he stays but surely if he was that special he would have played much more. I suspect his agent is hawking him around for a move or for us to pay him more. bluenoz, JCDBigBear and Real Ranger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolongawake 1,205 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 4 hours ago, SwallowsHisOwnSpunk said: If I was a youngster at Rangers there’s no way I’m signing a new deal. There is zero pathway over the last few years, even our success story Patterson wasn’t getting game time over Tavernier. Every manager that comes in (Gerrard, Gio, Beale & Clement) give it soundbites about giving youth a chance but it’s very rare that they actually do. McCausland has got some game time and impressed but still seems behind Lammers & Cantwell in the pecking order, is he really going to get regular game time when the likes of Matondo, Lawrence & Roofe are back? Or when we inevitably sign a winger or two in January? Same with Bailey Rice, he impressed in pre season but hasn’t been seen since other than a few bench appearances, now since Clement has come in he seems even further away, if he’d stayed at Motherwell he’d be a 1st team regular by now. People are desperate to sign Scottish players from other SPFL teams and criticise the club for not doing so, but make excuse after excuse for not giving our own Scottish youth a chance. The youth players aren’t the finished product but they can only develop properly if they are given 1st team game time. Stop signing squad players like Dowell & Lammers and give the likes of Rice, Lowry & McCausland a go. I agree in full except the last sentence. Given the money spent, Lammers was not signed as a squad player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,217 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 4 hours ago, SwallowsHisOwnSpunk said: Obviously Cantwell’s a better player but is Lammers? I don’t think he is. and seeing as Cantwell is playing in McCauslands position to accommodate Lammers in the middle that’s the reason I listed Cantwell. When has Lammers played out right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stunels 1,250 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Absolutely appalling management if we let this boy slip Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,281 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Stunels said: Absolutely appalling management if we let this boy slip It would be really disappointing but you can’t force him to sign a contract. JackAlex93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,876 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 3 hours ago, toolongawake said: I agree in full except the last sentence. Given the money spent, Lammers was not signed as a squad player. I think we all agree he’s not good enough to merit the title “squad player”. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,731 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 8 hours ago, SwallowsHisOwnSpunk said: If I was a youngster at Rangers there’s no way I’m signing a new deal. There is zero pathway over the last few years, even our success story Patterson wasn’t getting game time over Tavernier. Every manager that comes in (Gerrard, Gio, Beale & Clement) give it soundbites about giving youth a chance but it’s very rare that they actually do. McCausland has got some game time and impressed but still seems behind Lammers & Cantwell in the pecking order, is he really going to get regular game time when the likes of Matondo, Lawrence & Roofe are back? Or when we inevitably sign a winger or two in January? Same with Bailey Rice, he impressed in pre season but hasn’t been seen since other than a few bench appearances, now since Clement has come in he seems even further away, if he’d stayed at Motherwell he’d be a 1st team regular by now. People are desperate to sign Scottish players from other SPFL teams and criticise the club for not doing so, but make excuse after excuse for not giving our own Scottish youth a chance. The youth players aren’t the finished product but they can only develop properly if they are given 1st team game time. Stop signing squad players like Dowell & Lammers and give the likes of Rice, Lowry & McCausland a go. Don’t really think using Patterson is a reason for not staying. He got given a not too bad amount of game time considering he shared position with the captain and earned a multi million pound move to the premiership which a would imagine he got quite a decent sum of money from kelvd1873 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,672 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Tin hat on, but aside from a great cameo in Europe and a few half decent moments against Livi, I’ve never seen anything from him at youth or first team level that’s made me think he’ll make it here (or at any high level). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueoysterbar 19,696 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Tin hat on, but aside from a great cameo in Europe and a few half decent moments against Livi, I’ve never seen anything from him at youth or first team level that’s made me think he’ll make it here (or at any high level). You follow the youth team quite closely I think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,830 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Stunels said: Absolutely appalling management if we let this boy slip Gilmour went despite our serious efforts to keep him. Money talked. The same thing may happen with McCausland. Only hope is that his being a fan is a bigger pull. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvd1873 7,201 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Clement has only been here a short time but of all of our recent managers i feel youth players are going to get a chance to stay in the team under him. Hopefully young Ross looks at it that way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,672 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 9 hours ago, theblueoysterbar said: You follow the youth team quite closely I think? Reasonably. More through highlights than anything else. Think most that are close to it were of a similar view. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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